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Vista, is it really worth it?

By Dave the Computer Guy ·
Ok so I have to say I?ve been reading all the articles on Vista. I see all the visual improvement and hear about all the security enhancements and I have to ask myself is it really worth it?

First off there are these really cool new window effects. Ok I have to say they look very cool. But from what I?ve been reading I?ll need a 256 Meg video card just to use them. Then if this is the case how are my games going to react? If I need a 256 Meg video card for a game I?m trying to play do I then need a 512 card to accommodate both my game and windows? Or am I going to have to drop my windows display into a lower mode every time I want to do something graphical?

Then there are all these comments about how secure Vista will be. I?m sorry it?s a Microsoft operating system and I don?t care how secure they make it some one is going to crack it. Then I read about how the new Windows Defender will help block Spyware and prevent viruses. Well I have a Antivirus / Firewall / Spyware removal software that works just fine for that now.

Finally what version of the new Windows will I buy? There are seven to choose from and the question then becomes how expensive is this venture going to be?

Don?t get me wrong, I?m not going to just ship to Linux (though I thought about it). I like windows; I just wish Microsoft would take the time and produce something original. Even the new Windows effects look just like a combination of the new Mac OS and an OS by Sun called project looking glass.

I guess I?d like to hear other people?s opinions on Vista and see if I'm just a radical or if others agree.

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Use what works for u!

by emil7055010015 In reply to Vista

for me it doesn't really matter, something's worth if it is cost effective. it can be linux, mac os or windows. there is no such thing as 100% secure until the end of time, unless otherwise you kill all the people who always find fault of something there will always be vulnerability.

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Who or what is u?

by apotheon In reply to Use what works for u!

Is that just a typo, or is u an abbreviation of a corporation's name? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

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"u" is for you

by emil7055010015 In reply to Who or what is u?

sorry, doing text messaging on my phone freaquently just got into me!

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IE-7 beta. Is this a fortaste of VISTA?

by michael_orton In reply to Vista

Just downloaded copy of IE-7 beta. I believe this will be shipped with VISTA.
Initial impression.
The worst browser I have ever used.
Prefer Opera (win and Linux), Firefox (win & Linux).
Both Firefox and Opera were very easy to learn.
I gave up on IE-7. Even Spry Mosaic was easier to learn.
Suppose I will have to get used to it, just to sort out other peoples' PCs.
Thats the only rreason I will try it again!
Its a Creative, Realistic, Artistic Product, pity it is so hard to learn.

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IE-7 beta. Is this a fortaste of VISTA

by abobble2 In reply to IE-7 beta. Is this a fort ...

If IE-7 is hard for you, then using any broswer is probably hard for you. You must be one of those persons that shy away from learning and/or using different types of programs, (i.e.lazy) and only use what is easiest for you rather than take the time to learn something new. I found nothing new nor different in using IE-7 than it was to learn to use Foxfire, with some exceptions.

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IE 7 Beta

by rgeiken In reply to IE-7 beta. Is this a fort ...

Well, at least you got a chance to try it. I have downloaded it twice, and after getting about 1/2 way through the install, it comes up with a box that says that it can't install it because of some cryptic comment which didn't make any sense. I use Firefox now which I am very satisfied with. I only use IE 6 when absolutely necessary. I don't think that I will ever use a Microsoft Browser full time in the future. They don't innovate frequently enough to suit me. I also like Tabbed Browsing and can't imagine not having that function available.

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The 1 % Solution

by j.a.leo In reply to Vista

The 1 % solution to Microsofts, and therefore 90% of all users is simple.

Take the top 1% of product developers across the board and have them perform the activites of a RED TEAM that agressively and very intellegently searches out every possible flaw immaginable in all product designs and force the other 99% in the development teams to incorporate their finds into the product designs before any coding begins.

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OS as Toy or Tool?

by mlansing In reply to Vista

What a lot of this really boils down to these days is whether someone wants an OS for enjoyment or to get work done. Both are legitimate purposes - but let's be real, with the cheap, relatively high performance hardware out there, we should be at a nice comfortable plateau where things just get better, not necessarily fancier, just cause they can. I have a mix of business, soho and home users as clients and I am just now getting folks comfortable with XP. MS should slow down the train and concentrate on crafting one (each) rock solid OS for home users, business users and multimedia users. I would be happy with an XP service pack 10 if all it did was address emergent hacks.

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by Orjan In reply to Vista, is it really worth ...

So far, the only interesting thing I found is Bitlocker in the Enterprise version. By having the oppurtunity to restore the key through AD it should be a good solution for larger companies who needs to protect their data. I wonder though if the protection is good enough to handle the legislative demands in the U.S and Japan. Anyone knows? Third party solutions like Pointsec(which includes Linux, PDAs etc) costs approx. the same, have a bit better security today, but gives an overhead in the organisation. Anyone having a good insight in this?

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Not Worth an Upgrade

by wilko In reply to Bitlocker

Having run through the latest preview build, which is suppossed to be feature complete, it's hard to find anything exciting. Yes it'll be more secure and bug free than XP (not hard to do)but it's still just Windows with a cleaned up interface.

We'll get it at work since it'll ship on new machines but for home use I've used Linux for a few years and have never missed Windows.

Despite the massive advertising campaign MS will launch prior to release it's hard to see why any home user would pay to upgrade an existing system for it.

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