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Water on the moon.

By boxfiddler Moderator ·

"The presence of significant quantities of ice on the lunar surface catapults the moon from an interesting waypoint to a critical launching pad for humanity's exploration of the cosmos," said Peter Diamandis, CEO and chairman of the X Prize Foundation, which is running a $30 million contest for private moon rovers. "We're entering a new era of lunar exploration ? 'Moon 2.0,' in which an international group of companies and governments will use the ice and other unique resources of the moon to help us expand the sphere of human influence, and to help us monitor and protect the Earth."

My thoughts are all over the place with this one. The most prevalent reeks of incongruity. We don't manage our own planet well.

Corporate interests (business!) exploit well and are probably best capable of getting us 'out there'. Yet those same interests appear blind to the devastating effect of their expertise.

We're known for short-sightedness, we humans. Despite my 'Oh, this is way too cool' initial response, I have misgivings.

What do y'all think about ice on the moon? Will we go there and do that?

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yea seanferd

by RookieTech In reply to "We don't manage our own ...

i agree we really dont manage our present world well at all i mean heck there is holes in the ozone polar ice caps are starting to melt garbage everywhere i mean jeez

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Original statement was Boxfiddler's

by seanferd In reply to yea seanferd

from the post at the top. I was quoting it.

But, yeah.

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Required reading

by Geek3001 In reply to Water on the moon.

<p>Have all the people involved in lunar resource exploitation read "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Robert Heinlein. One of the core drivers of the story line was the fact that mined ice, something essential for life support in the story, is a limited resource that WILL run out.</p>
<p>At the same time, people seem to be ignoring the possibility of diverting other supplies of ice to the moon and other places. Imagine redirecting a comet into Earth orbit and using that as a space based water supply.</p>
<p>But for the interim, having a supply of water on the moon would be useful for developing other capabilities later on.</p>

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Finite resources.

by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to Required reading

The entire industrialized world currently bets its existence on oil that is sure to run out. How much quicker that, if we divert what is more than likely a massive use of oil to getting to the moon.

Can we do it without oil? I'm thinking not.

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Black gold, Texas Tea

by Michael Jay In reply to Finite resources.

Interesting to think that if the oil stops tomorrow, things will go downhill very fast.

No deliveries to the store, nothing to buy, no way to get there if there was something to buy.

Can you say return to the stone age?

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Not immediately

by Ed Woychowsky In reply to Black gold, Texas Tea

It will take a little while for the bullets to run out. After that swords, axes and bows will be the height of technology. Yeah, some will argue that there's hydro-electric, nuclear, solar and wind power, but in the scramble of nations to grab all they can those will be destroyed.

In the end the bards will tell tales of a golden age when men walked on the moon and reached for the stars.

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Moon 2.0

by AV . In reply to Water on the moon.

I think its an amazing discovery and we should pursue it further. I have my misgivings too, but its important for future generations that we do it.

No, we don't manage our planet too well, but we have to go anyway. Sure, Corporate America will exploit the moon and honestly I'm not happy with that, but we might never get there otherwise.


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I really do not think the moon will mind

by Michael Jay In reply to Moon 2.0

being exploited, looks like jobs to me.

The moon is only the first step, somehow we will have to figure out interstellar travel, we have time, at least 4 billion years they say.

But at some time in the future we will need to find a new home, there is not one in this solar system.

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The moon has resources

by AV . In reply to I really do not think the ...

We need to do that. Maybe Corporate America will invest the dollars to fund intersellar travel. If they can make money, they will pursue it. Eventually we may need a new home so we always have to always pursue new possibilities.


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We could..

by rm.squires In reply to I really do not think the ...

Always go to mars and reheat the core and start the core rotating again so it can generate a protective em field then an atmosphere can be generated without he solar wind taking it away.


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