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Water on the moon.

By boxfiddler Moderator ·

"The presence of significant quantities of ice on the lunar surface catapults the moon from an interesting waypoint to a critical launching pad for humanity's exploration of the cosmos," said Peter Diamandis, CEO and chairman of the X Prize Foundation, which is running a $30 million contest for private moon rovers. "We're entering a new era of lunar exploration ? 'Moon 2.0,' in which an international group of companies and governments will use the ice and other unique resources of the moon to help us expand the sphere of human influence, and to help us monitor and protect the Earth."

My thoughts are all over the place with this one. The most prevalent reeks of incongruity. We don't manage our own planet well.

Corporate interests (business!) exploit well and are probably best capable of getting us 'out there'. Yet those same interests appear blind to the devastating effect of their expertise.

We're known for short-sightedness, we humans. Despite my 'Oh, this is way too cool' initial response, I have misgivings.

What do y'all think about ice on the moon? Will we go there and do that?

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Managing our planet

by Ed Woychowsky In reply to Moon 2.0

Have you ever considered that the answer to our problems here are out there?

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Its all possible

by AV . In reply to Managing our planet

I think there are a lot of answers for us on the moon. Its an untouched treasure trove of natural resources. I hope we don't abuse it.


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The Moon is no use to anyone

by neilb@uk In reply to Its all possible

A Moon base would just be another useless political stunt like the 1969 Moon landings which were a total waste of money and resources. A tenth of the money, invested in space exploration that didn't carry humans along for the ride, would have produced ten times as much scientific discovery. But it wouldn't have been good TV.

What we really need to do is get out to the asteroids. Loads of resources out there and no gravity well to get stuff in and out of. Now, if we can get as far as the the Ooort Cloud, we'll have as much water as we want and hydrocarbons to burn.

But we won't. It's too late now.

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by Ed Woychowsky In reply to The Moon is no use to any ...

The problem with asteroids is that some mad scientist always mentions the idea of putting a near Earth asteroid into Earth orbit. Whenever that happens the name Chicxulub comes to mind. That kind of technology would put a lot of power in the hands of some people that could potentually demand to run the show, or else.

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Kinetic weapons

by neilb@uk In reply to Asteroids

Nice and clean, no fallout at all.

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Big bangs, too! -nt-

by NickNielsen In reply to Kinetic weapons
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The Moon is a first step

by AV . In reply to The Moon is no use to any ...

We're a long way from the Oort cloud. The moon is a way to get started. If we establish a moon base, we can study what life would be like in space. We're not prepared for life in space.

Its not a waste. Yeah, its gonna cost lots of money, but we're all putting in.


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The Moon isn't in space

by neilb@uk In reply to The Moon is a first step

Not really. It's just another planet-sized body that doesn't happen to have an atmosphere. We need to learn how to live in free-fall - a proper space station - and then move out from there. The Moon has gravity and we know how to deal with gravity.

Bypass the Moon because it's a waste of effort and resources. I don't want to contribute to another political stunt like Apollo. Apollo is the reason that there isn't a proper space programme.


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by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to The Moon isn't in space

The Moon isn't in space

If not space, what? :0

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Space, to me, is the bit without much gravity

by neilb@uk In reply to The Moon isn't in space

You have to get out into space to get to the Moon but, once you're there, you're on another planet that just doesn't have an atmosphere.

Just a different view. :)

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