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Water on the moon.

By boxfiddler Moderator ·

"The presence of significant quantities of ice on the lunar surface catapults the moon from an interesting waypoint to a critical launching pad for humanity's exploration of the cosmos," said Peter Diamandis, CEO and chairman of the X Prize Foundation, which is running a $30 million contest for private moon rovers. "We're entering a new era of lunar exploration ? 'Moon 2.0,' in which an international group of companies and governments will use the ice and other unique resources of the moon to help us expand the sphere of human influence, and to help us monitor and protect the Earth."

My thoughts are all over the place with this one. The most prevalent reeks of incongruity. We don't manage our own planet well.

Corporate interests (business!) exploit well and are probably best capable of getting us 'out there'. Yet those same interests appear blind to the devastating effect of their expertise.

We're known for short-sightedness, we humans. Despite my 'Oh, this is way too cool' initial response, I have misgivings.

What do y'all think about ice on the moon? Will we go there and do that?

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Relative, isn't it?

by santeewelding In reply to The Moon isn't in space

Where do you go without gravitational interaction?

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The moon is our closest neighbor

by AV . In reply to The Moon isn't in space

Just because it isn't in deep space doesn't make it unimportant. It would be a big advantage to have a moon base.


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A good point AV

by Michael Jay In reply to The Moon isn't in space

some of the most common materials on the moon include aluminum, calcium, iron, titanium, and magnesium.

If we do go there we could mine and use these to build structures without having to carry them with us.

Of course we will have to take everything we need in the beginning but as time goes on most everything we need is already there, we will just have to mine and refine.

Water on the moon, proven but how much, and how easy to get to. Water will provide oxygen for breathing and hydrogen for fuel.

But all this is long term, I don't think that in my lifetime we will see a self sufficient base on the moon, but someday yes.

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It would be

by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to The Moon isn't in space

a coup to have a viable colony on the moon. I'd want to spend at least a few days there.

But we don't have a viable energy souce of the magnitude it will likely take to run that kind of operation. If the moon has oil, well... that's another matter. Though the odds are good it, too, will be a finite source.

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Davette Oil isn't the answer at all

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to The Moon isn't in space

For space travel it's useless and whatever current Technology that we do have is way to inefficient and wasteful to consider this as an option.

We are going to have to massively change our Base Energy from Oil to something else as as of last year we reached Peek Production and from now on it's going to be a declining run till we either no longer have a need for Oil or we run out.


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by boxfiddler Moderator In reply to The Moon isn't in space

all our current technology is founded on oil. Oil is in plastics, powers manufacturing, transports parts. We've no adequate replacement for it and it's finite. It may not power the rocket to the moon, but it powers virtually everything it takes to build that rocket and all the supplies that have to go to the moon.

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Oil on the moon would

by Michael Jay In reply to The Moon isn't in space

be hard to use as there is no oxygen to burn it, I think that the power will be electric, as there is lots of sunlight with no clouds solar power will be the way to go there.

The nights lasting 29.5 Earth days will require a power station near the pole for full time power or at least 3 stations spread around the moon to insure at least one has sunlight at all times.

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Oil on the Moon would be a little surprising

by neilb@uk In reply to The Moon isn't in space

as it forms from diatoms in (watery) seas.


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Ah yes Neil

by Michael Jay In reply to The Moon isn't in space

But what would it form in the seas of the Moon, not so much water but perhaps just as slippery.

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Petroleum Geology

by santeewelding In reply to The Moon isn't in space

Is a (science) how old, Neil?

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