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What comparisons do you do, to decide which brand of server to buy?

By jdclyde ·
Greetings all.

New job, has two Dell Poweredge servers.

We need to add in a web server, will be running Windows Server 2008. (no, linux is not an option at this time, sorry. I checked.)

I have a quote on an HP server, and management wants a quote on an IBM server (because they know that name, and associate HP with home).

The two servers I am looking at are:

HP ProLiant ML110 G5 Server

IBM System x3200 M2 Express Server

Both use the same xeon CPU, (Xeon E3110 Dual-core 3GHz)
same amount of RAM (2gig)
Both will have two hard drives, for mirroring.
The IBM comes with SAS drives, where the HP gave me the option for SAS or SATA.

The TWO questions I have,

1) what resources have you found to allow me to compare these two servers?
2) for a web server, are the SAS drives worth getting, or overkill?

Everything I have found so far has IBM and HP trading places on who is rated higher, depending on the category, with neither coming out a real winner. The main difference I see, the IBM will probably cost a $200/$400 more.

Thanks for any input on this.

jd

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We are leaning that way

by jdclyde In reply to In my business

Just working out the final quote right now. After looking at the IBM site to customize the server, they wanted $69 each for 1gig chips, and $79 each for 2 gig chips. I am all over doubling the memory for $20.

Side note, have you gotten my emails about the KY trip?

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As for Novell

by jdclyde In reply to JD as this isn't a Novel ...

As far as I can tell, the ONLY thing the Novell is doing, is giving the Novell login. LOL!

Got a bud of mine who is a Novell guy, and he is going to stop by and see if it is even doing anything anymore. I do know the email has been moved off of it.

I am thinking it should have been turned off a few years ago, but the consultant didn't want to BOTHER uninstalling the Novell Client on the 10 pcs.

So, instead of learning Novell, I get to learn Terminal Services. B-)

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Consultant

by shasca In reply to As for Novell

How did the transition go with you and the consultant? Was he cooperative and gave you all the PW's and Network layout?

Have you accessed the NW server to see what resources are stored on it? sys, vol1,vol2 etc.? Print Server? File Server? You may luck out and find it was only a GW server thus is no longer needed.

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No contact as of yet

by jdclyde In reply to Consultant

As that is a bridge we don't want to burn, so not going to contact him until it is required.

Also, depending on how this project works out, will depend on if they increase my value here or if they will move back to the consultant. Without this project, they really won't need an on-staff tech.

Got a buddy that is a Novell guy, and offered to buy him lunch if he would take a look at tell me what the "server" is doing. It is loaded on a PC, and it seems to only be feeding out the Novell login. If that is the case, it would get formatted and become my work pc.

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Seems to be Novells future fate

by shasca In reply to No contact as of yet

"If that is the case, it would get formatted and become my work pc."

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That is the fate

by jdclyde In reply to Seems to be Novells futur ...

of any company that doesn't know how to market their product.

That is clearly the case of Novell. No one to blame but themselves.

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Update on quote price

by jdclyde In reply to What comparisons do you d ...

looking about $700 more for the IBM than the HP.

Will find out this afternoon which quote is going to fly.

Thanks for all the feedback!

jd

Wish I was able to give out techpoints!

New question about putting hard drives in older system.
http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-7343-0.html?forumID=101&threadID=307246&messageID=3058871

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Going with the HP

by jdclyde In reply to Update on quote price

With everything out the door, the cost of the IBM knocked it's self out of the running.

I am now the proud admin of a new HP server.

Thanks everyone.

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I was wondering

by rob mekel In reply to Going with the HP

with that kinda price difference ... on 2 more or less the same machines ... there isn't any option then choosing the less expensive one

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unless you have shares of the company that is more expensive :^0


dang emoticon

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A big part of the savings

by jdclyde In reply to I was wondering

was HP having a deal with M$ to offer Windows 2008 Server quite a bit cheaper bundled in.

If wasn't for that extra amount, I think we would have ended up with the IBM.

Combine that with IBM cutting the bottom line of their servers. At my last job I had two x205's, and they ran $500 each.

Insisting on adding the extra drive for mirroring jumped them up more as well than it did the HP.

I was kind of looking forward to staying with IBM.

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