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What everyone's forgetting about Linux is....

By ulrichburke ·
Nothing runs on it! It's got hardly any programs that work on it (yet). It can emulate Windows enough to fool some Windows progs to work on it, for sure. But it doesn't have anything much of its own.

The whole argument's sitting in the early days of Apple vs. Microsoft. If you're a geek who wants to look cool and virtuous and seem One Up on the Rest of the Computing Community, feel free to use Linux. You won't be able to get any work done much but hey, man, you'll look goood. If you want to get SOME work done and spend a WEDGE of cash on a machine that aint that fast, get an Applemac. You'll still look cool but you'll have a few more pieces of software (not counting Bootcamp!)

If you want to get a LOT of work done, on a fast machine that cost as much as an Imac but has higher specs all round, I'm afraid the world's still PC based. Like it or not, the vast majority of software is built to run on Windows. Emulated windows is always going to be slow and clunky and only some things will run on it. That goes for Bootcamp and the Linux equivalent, the name of which escapes me.

The other problem with Linux is it comes in SO many builds, you have to be Ubergeek to install it, let alone use it. It's WAAY back in the Seventies. Then, you had Apples, BBC Micros, Spectrums, Commodores, all similar, all with differences that meant you couldn't use their software on eachothers systems easily. Now, you can find programs that will only run on ONE PARTICULAR FLAVOUR of Linux. And it's not necessarily Red Hat or Ubuntu.

When Linux has got its act together so any Linux program can run on any Linux machine, when it's got at least as much software as there is for Applemacs, doing as many things, when it's got a decent GUI (Gnome 3 DOES look promising, have to say) then it will be worth looking at. Until then, you can bleat all you like about how safe it is, the bottom line is how USABLE an operating system is. And an operating system sans applications is, frankly, a waste of time. (I write computer music. Is there ANYTHING that would let me run Sampletank with Miroslav Orchestra and a decent notation package on a Linux machine? Nope, didn't think so.)

Sorry, Linux guys, the world is PC and will be for a long time to come.


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Sensible Post from an IT Pro who knows his job - NT

by j-mart In reply to This does have the look o ...
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It's really this simple....

by dwar10 In reply to This does have the look o ...

Excellent post... You sum it all up with "At the end of the day my job is to see the clients can do their jobs. It's not to force technology they have no interest in learning on them. "
From an IT perspective.. It really is that simple...

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I disagree with that attitude

by lavezarez In reply to It's really this simple.. ...

Sometimes we do have to "force" technology to our end-users, as we do the same to ourselves. It's our responsibility to force a change, if we know that that change is good for the end-users.

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No, we don't force change

by NickNielsen In reply to I disagree with that atti ...

We encourage change, we enable change, we recommend change. We do NOT force it. And we definitely don't shove it down users' throats.

For one thing, who determines what is "good for the end-users"?

For another, forcing a change will ensure the change not only fails, but fails miserably, and that all future suggestions from that source will be ignored.

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I completely doubt

by santeewelding In reply to No, we don't force change

That a word you say will affect what amounts to a brush with the death of liberty.

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You're probably right

by NickNielsen In reply to I completely doubt

One can but try.

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Selective sour grapes

by Thmiuatga In reply to What everyone's forgettin ...

It's clear that you have issues. After building my first PC, I started with Linux and
ran it with no knowledge of it and no one to guide me. I have used Linux to continue what I needed to do whenever Windows crapped out on me and I needed to retrieve data I couldn't reconstruct.

There are good and bad points about every operating system on the market and no one is claiming Linux in it's numerous distributions to be the exception to the rule.

As for mentioning the early systems of Mac Atari, Commodore what's the relevance? I used and still own 2 Atari PC's and the day I purchased my STE, I attempted to access a floppy disc of my data on a system of which the owner of said system told me to get a "real PC."

He was stone silent when the message "insufficient memory" appeared on the screen.

So the software for these systems could only be used on the particular system it was written for. It was no problem for Apple/Mac to be using the Motorola 68080, the same processor used in the Atari TT systems.

You deal with the changes and you adapt and grow or you don't. I submit that if you had to pay for Linux you'd be howling about that too.

Try contacting Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman; I'm sure they'll find time to cede to your demands after they've finished doubled-over laughing.

Get a grip!

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Time for Fatux?

by animoid In reply to What everyone's forgettin ...

So what about Fatux? A super fat Linux which competes with Windows full on. It's looking good already, and I predict this to be the killer OS. Free, fast and full. You don't need to be a geek either! What could beat that? Buggy right now, but wait for Release 2.

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Brainless worm

by iancomings In reply to What everyone's forgettin ...

Where to start digging...... i know!

First off, most linux software works on any linux distro because it is open-source. By Open-Source I mean you have access to the source code so if you dont have a distro-centric binary package for the software, you can build one from source for your specific hardware and distro. Secondly, Where do you get off claiming that we don't get hardly any work done on a linux box? Have you ever used one? Obviously not as you have stated it would take an UberGeek to install it and it is painfully obvious that UberGeek you are not. With Linux I get my banking done, Taxes done, Documents typed, Programming done, Gaming done, Burning media done, DVR, Media Streaming, Downloading, Repairing other computers, the list goes on and on. Grow some hair on your balls cause you need to try installing Linux. Ubuntu has made it so simple my 2 yr old nephew can install it. Fedora is the same, Mandriva, Linux mint, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuSe, and several others. the only ones i can think of where it takes "UberGeekness" to install would be Slackware or Gentoo and even then it is getting easier. Also, i havent spent a single penny running Linux. As for speed of OS? Linux hands done runs smoother and faster than either MacOSX or Windows. Of course the also depends on Hardware, but if you were to put Mac, M$Windows, and Linux on the same machine one after another you would see that Linux tends to use less resources and boot faster, run faster, and be more secure while providing a massive repository of FREE software at your disposal. If you absolutely HAVE to use MS software, Crossover Office and Wine do an outstanding job of melding the API code to Linux. As stated on the WineHQ, Wine is not an Emulator.
Get the Facts.

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The facts

by Marc Thibault In reply to Brainless worm

"Write once, compile anywhere", now there's an admirable goal!

One of my machines runs on Debian. It's a sweet little thing and it gets a lot of use web browsing and ... web browsing.

I also use it for presentations, mainly because it's light and portable. I do my slide shows in HTML and they look really good in ... the web browser.

I'll say this for compatibility: The HTML I develop in Windows looks exactly the same on Debian. Handy that.

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