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February 1, 2010 at 1:58 pm #2197282
What makes for great music?
Lockedby jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
We have had many FNM nights here on TR, where people from all around the world contribute a wide range of music. Some I like, some, not so much, but the people that post it enjoy it very much.
Music is a very personal thing, so I wondered how much thought people have put into what it is they like, and why?
What is it that makes music great?
Is it the composition of the music (writing).
Is it the lyrics?
Is it the hook or a catchy beat?
Is it the vocals?
Is it the style/skill of the musicians?
What is it that makes you love a song and KEEP loving it for years, even decades?
If you have examples of something you like, feel free to post links to the song/music. Unfortunately, imeem has been bought and swallowed up by Myspace, but there is always youtube!
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February 1, 2010 at 2:08 pm #3032315
Only one thing
by santeewelding · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to What makes for great music?
Excellence.
Excellence in any or all the features you cite.
Same goes for anything or anyone else.
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February 1, 2010 at 2:15 pm #3032314
After hearing “pop music”, I have to disagree
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Only one thing
You are going to have a hard time convincing me that anyone that is a Britney Spears fan or Ensync fan are looking for excellence on the majority of the fronts.
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February 1, 2010 at 7:19 pm #3032267
As you noted
by boxfiddler · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to After hearing “pop music”, I have to disagree
great music is subjective. Why drag pop dogs into it until someone else does?
:0 No! One of your boys has gone over to the pop side?! :^0
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February 1, 2010 at 10:22 pm #3032246
The boys like to rock
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to As you noted
They listen to and love my music. Anything from Zep to Mudvayne.
Well, ThingTwo does listen to Greenday…. :0
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February 2, 2010 at 6:15 am #3032192
Sadly
by ganyssa · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to The boys like to rock
the Spawn has gone over to the dark side. His name is Justin Bieber.
I can’t access YouTube from work, but I wouldn’t do that to you guys anyway. 🙂
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February 2, 2010 at 10:41 am #3032132
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February 4, 2010 at 4:58 am #3032583
Come on, you guys
by Sonja Thompson · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to my deepest condolences….
Justin is CUTE, and he actually has a very nice singing voice. 😉
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February 4, 2010 at 5:57 am #3032560
Pop-pop, snap
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to my deepest condolences….
<sing-song voice> somebody’z chewing bubble gum… 😀
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February 2, 2010 at 6:36 pm #3032019
Drove a convertible ‘Stang around western USA to Dookie
by drowningnotwaving · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to The boys like to rock
… in 1999 just prior to getting hitched.
Even more perfect was that I didn’t have a valid licence and my fiance had to do all the driving – LA – San Diego – Vegas – Canyon – up the back of California to Yosemite, SF and back down Highway 1 to LA. Very relaxing.
Perhaps great music criteria include setting, context and company.
Perhaps another is whether you are driving or not.
Whatever – there was nothing wrong at all with [b]cranked up Greenday[/b] on that trip! Plus that covers album of Carpenters hits. Screamed our heads off.
Excellence indeed.
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February 2, 2010 at 6:55 pm #3032017
Sorry mate, have to disagree there too
by oz_media · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Only one thing
Most modern music, popular music, has so little excellence it barely registers as music.
The recording process is simply over driven and overcompressed to offer “acceptible MP3 sound” and nothign else.
I won’t go on, this would be a very long post if I did, but I agree that while music SHOULD offer excellence in both musucuanship and engineering, most of today’s “music” is devoid of both sucj qualities.
The bottom line is that kids don’t care anymore. Listening to multitrack Pink Floyd with intense dynamics is not a desire these days, compressing the latest manufcatured jingle is completely acceptable now, from the engineering desk to teh consumer.
You should see some of the low end garbage we’ve released in North America and had it fly off the shelves in the past few years. Even simply compressing old bed tracks and releasing them as finished material is acceptable.
It’s sad.
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February 2, 2010 at 7:19 pm #3032011
I give you filet mignon
by santeewelding · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Sorry mate, have to disagree there too
And what do you reach for?
Ketchup.
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February 3, 2010 at 3:03 am #3031961
exactly
by oz_media · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to I give you filet mignon
Nice rib eye, where’s the HP?
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February 2, 2010 at 7:22 pm #3032010
So a bootleg mic under the armpits at a gig can’t capture excellence?
by drowningnotwaving · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Sorry mate, have to disagree there too
Is ‘excellence’ restricted to some judgement of technical competence?
Is this what you are suggesting??
Seems like a harsh definition you have of excellence, Oz!
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February 3, 2010 at 3:07 am #3031960
It may capture excellence
by oz_media · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to So a bootleg mic under the armpits at a gig can’t capture excellence?
But the recording itself is anything but excellence.
My harsh definition is the result of too many years at an engineering desk, trying to reproduce the excellence that comes out of the mikes. I admit that, as an audiophile, I have a very snobbish ear for sound, I hear flaws all the time that my friend’s don’t hear until pointed out to them, then they can’t stand it either.
I really PO others in the studio when I ask them to edit a track over and over again because they can’t hear two instruments are off the click track by 50 milliseconds, it just jumps right out at me now though.
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February 3, 2010 at 8:03 am #3031922
So you’re saying
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to It may capture excellence
that regardless of the quality of the performance, it’s the quality of the recording that determines whether or not that performance was “excellent”?
Sounds awfully cold-blooded to me, Oz.
One of the most awesome live performances I ever heard was bootlegged using a portable cassette deck and the internal condenser mic. The recording sucked, but it allowed the person who recorded it (and me) to relive the original performance several times before the live tapes were released.
etu
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February 3, 2010 at 2:49 pm #3031808
Drummers
by drowningnotwaving · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to It may capture excellence
I had a drummer and producer get into a brawl in a studio once, with the producer screaming (between air-swings, of course):
[i]Just because you want a “Live” sound doesn’t mean you can make mistakes you furckin moron![/i]
Plus I know also that when I played in bands I found it near on impossible to go and see another band and just enjoy the gig. Always had to over-analyse every single aspect of the stage, lights, sound, performance and all. Took years to get over that.
So I kind of get what you mean.
But sometimes I like the live sound with the mistakes as well! You can take the boy out of the suburbs but … 🙂
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February 3, 2010 at 3:02 pm #3031805
NN
by oz_media · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to It may capture excellence
No, thats not a all what I was saying. In fact it is almost the opposite.
Firstly the question itseslf is ridiculous, secondly I haver ptretty much avoided it due to replies such as yours.
Unlike IT, there is no definitive answer as to what defines art. You will not get it compartmentalized to be analyzed.
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February 3, 2010 at 5:40 pm #3031762
Sorry, Oz
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to NN
I apparently skipped past your title.
My initial answer is almost the same: I can’t explain what makes music great, but I know great music when I hear it.
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February 2, 2010 at 7:08 pm #3032015
I’m amazed
by boxfiddler · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Only one thing
at how incredibly difficult it is for some to grasp that what you said is, “Excellence makes great music.”
Unbelievable.
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February 2, 2010 at 7:18 pm #3032012
It went past them so fast
by drowningnotwaving · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to I’m amazed
… it seemed to have created its own sonic boom!! 🙂
One man’s excellence is another’s freedom fighter, or something like that.
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February 3, 2010 at 10:48 am #3031888
But it is not always the case
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to I’m amazed
There are many songs that people love that have little to do with excellence.
It is like attraction between two people, it just is or isn’t, and can’t be decided on logically.
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February 3, 2010 at 2:36 pm #3031811
Perhaps it is that, that makes it excellent
by drowningnotwaving · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to But it is not always the case
… to that person, in that context, at that time.
At least that’s how I interpreted Santee’s “excellence” in this instance – as completely irrational, subjective and beyond definition as the attraction that you mention JD.
But it is fun trying! good subject! 🙂
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February 3, 2010 at 9:42 pm #3031729
For it to reach “excellence”
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Perhaps it is that, that makes it excellent
it would be a beloved song for more than a few months, but rather decades if not a lifetime.
I still listen to most of the music I was listening to 30 years ago. I just keep adding to the list.
For something to “fall away”, it must not have been so excellent, huh?
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February 3, 2010 at 5:29 pm #3031763
Do you
by shasca · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to But it is not always the case
Refer to “pants on the Ground”
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February 3, 2010 at 5:49 pm #3031761
Okay, JD
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to But it is not always the case
[i]There are many songs that people love that have little to do with excellence.[/i]
What is your definition of musical “excellence” and why should it apply to me?
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February 3, 2010 at 9:44 pm #3031727
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February 3, 2010 at 6:31 pm #3031752
You asked
by boxfiddler · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to But it is not always the case
“What makes great music?”. Not “what makes music people like?”
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February 3, 2010 at 9:44 pm #3031726
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February 1, 2010 at 3:44 pm #3032303
I can’t tell you what makes great music.
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to What makes for great music?
It’s probably some combination of all of the factors you list.
But I know it when I hear it.
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February 1, 2010 at 7:13 pm #3032268
What does it for you, personally?
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to I can’t tell you what makes great music.
What do YOU look for in music?
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February 1, 2010 at 8:55 pm #3032254
It really depends
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to What does it for you, personally?
For some songs, it’s the voice that makes it. Janis Joplin or Joe Cocker, for example. For others it’s the melody. For even others, it’s the instrumentation or the beat. For almost all, the combination of voice, melody, and instrumentation is what makes it good. It’s really hard to pick out one thing, although I tend to prefer musically “busy” songs such as those from the Alan Parsons Project and the Big Band era.
Then, there are the songs with such a catchy beat that everybody bops to them, even if they don’t admit it:
Low Rider – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8mZdSq4MTs
Brick House – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBx6mAWYPU
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February 1, 2010 at 10:12 pm #3032249
Funny how tastes can be so different
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to It really depends
I have never thought either Joplin or Cocker had the ability to “sing”. Is it a generational thing? I have NEVER “got” Dillon, and I don’t think someone like Elvis would get his foot in the door if he were just starting out today, but because he was doing something new……
A few of my favorite vocalists.
Queensryche – Jet City Woman (Geoff Tate)
Judas Priest – Diamonds and rust (Rob Halford)
Robert Plant – Ship of Fools (Robert Plant)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc-eDaEZ4LUArmored Saint – Last Train Home (John Bush)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDBBb-CzCM0&feature=relatedEdit to add: I am not saying there is anything wrong with your choices, and I have long recognized there is a difference between someone not liking something, and something being “bad”. The local band I saw last week, the keyboard player and drummer were “bad”. 😀
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February 2, 2010 at 5:11 am #3032216
Ditto
by charliespencer · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Funny how tastes can be so different
I’ve always found Joplin, Cocker, and Dylan’s ‘style’ to be grating. I can take or leave the first two. I love Dylan’s songs but would prefer to hear someone else’s recordings of them; preferably someone who can enunciate.
I could have listened to Karen Carpenter sing the phone book or the periodic table.
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February 2, 2010 at 10:42 am #3032131
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February 2, 2010 at 7:13 am #3032179
Long time Queensryche fan…
by forum surfer · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Funny how tastes can be so different
Upon browsing my pc, my girlfriend had no clue who they were?but that could be said of most of my collection.
🙂
I still feel that Chris DeGarmo is one of the top 5 guitarists ever. I still break out Operation: Mindcrime Live from time to time and listen in amazement. The arrangement, timing and level of talent was just amazing. I like Geoff Tate, but I feel Chris carried the band with his raw talent in my opinion. When I was young and playing guitar, I could pick out most popular songs and play them but I always needs tab sheets for his music. Except for Silent Lucidity. It was beautiful, melodic, simple and the first song I ever learned to play.
That being said?the recent release of Mindcrime II was a crime against the original. 🙁 The story line was horrible and the musical depth just wasn?t there this go around.
Armored Saint?! That makes two of us who know who they are! I bought “Symbol of Salvation” on tape 3 times because I played it so much. I just recently got all nostalgic and bought myself a drm free legit copy.
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February 2, 2010 at 10:47 am #3032128
Saw QR open up for KISS
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Long time Queensryche fan…
must have been in 83 or 84, and The Warning had just come out. I had already been playing “Prophecy” on my HS radio show regularly, and then added in MN156.
And occasionally a special girl would get “Can you deliver?” dedicated to them….. 😀 By the time Symbol came out, I was already on to CD’s. Still have March of the Saints on LP.
I think it was more DeGarmo’s writing than his playing that gave QR their sound, but yes, I love his playing too.
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February 2, 2010 at 1:23 pm #3032072
Hm. I was basically uninterested after Mindcrime
by seanferd · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Long time Queensryche fan…
I love that one, and Rage For Order. Never been taken with anything else they’ve done.
Since I never run into anyone who mentions Queensryche when musical interests are the topic of conversation, I just figured I toss by two bits in here.
cheers
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February 3, 2010 at 3:14 am #3031959
LOL
by oz_media · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Long time Queensryche fan…
Ironically I just got home after listening to Mindcrime in the truck.
Tate has lost his touch now thogh, last two times I’ve seen him he was out of his league as he just won’t change keys to fit his aging voice,
Nothing against QR, it happens to all musicians eventually, even…sniff, sniff Halford (though he was in top form for the second leg of the last tour). \m/
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February 3, 2010 at 5:42 am #3031939
getting older
by forum surfer · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to LOL
Yeah I loaded up my mp3 player last night with Mindcrime (and AIC Dirt since I was feeling nostalgic) and went to the gym with it after this discussion. I had the strange urge to assassinate local political figures afterward lol.
Singers have to change as they get older, plain and simple. I caught a show while I was down in Florida once for kicks and giggles. Lynard Skynard and 3 Doors Down. Wow, best accidental performance I’ve ever seen. Those guys put on one of the best shows I have ever seen in person. Blew away many of the “superstar” shows I’ve seen…but I never really saw the superstars in their prime.
Another live performance I truly enjoyed was Disturbed. Free tickets, so I figured it beat sitting at home that night. They are actually very well talented musically and their live performance made me a fan. I bought their music not long afterward. Their singer will drastically need to adjust his style as he gets older.
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February 3, 2010 at 10:51 am #3031886
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February 3, 2010 at 3:21 pm #3031797
Wasn’t priest
by oz_media · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to LOL
{riest have NEVER been on the sex and drugs trip.
KK was a bit of a mover and shaker with the ladies but they were never one of those bands. It has always been about the music,
Halford’s voice gets a lot more post processing these days, hearing it at teh sound desk and then hearing it in the audience are two very different things.
If you hear him sing archipello, he has to slow down and really work. When he’s on stage, post processing with chorus effects keep him hittings keys he really doesn’t hit himself, without a little help.
He has learned to drop a key, just as teh band has also, and you don’t really realize it is even being performed in a lower key.
His voice had become more finely tuned over the last three years though, due to extensive touring with Priest again (Two, Fight and Halford did not help his voice at all).
In 2006 I was on a few dates with them and it was rough but able to be cleaned at the desk. I was on quite a few more dates with them in 2007 and there was a HUGE difference. The desk did very little work on his voice and instead played with background effects such as demonic tones echoing him through some songs while he nailed the notes. Of the last dozen shows I have been to with them between 05 and 07, their bext performance was in Victoria BC.
So good they almost entirely stripped his vocal support, as you can hear on their last CD Live Evil.But backstage sex and drugs? Not these guys.
Saturday night I’m hanging with Rob and Steve from Anvil as they wrap up in North America. Oz is here in Canada right now too and the Olympics will be underway, so it will definitley be a serious sex drugs and rock n roll backstage howler with them. Oz is happy because he’s been in the UK long enough to get his drinking up to speed with Brits again, last time Steve drank him under the table in Birmingham. (Oz is really focused as a musician not a drunk though, so it’s always been easier working with his bands).
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February 1, 2010 at 7:28 pm #3032264
JD
by santeewelding · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to What makes for great music?
You gots to be one of them dumb bubs in flyover country.
Don’t you get what I’m saying?
Great music applies to the varying scores that animate each of us.
In fits and starts, you are such a one.
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February 1, 2010 at 7:31 pm #3032263
Melody. Poignancy. Harmonics.
by boxfiddler · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to What makes for great music?
Just ‘the right’ funk. If there have to be lyrics, I want them to speak powerfully to being. I think it’s being. I might have called it depth in days of yore.
I like a powerful voice with an intangible unique quality of some kind. Hit the note, don’t slide into it, unless the piece calls for it and you’re really really good at it.
I’m partial to music of some kinds written in the minor keys.
Hmmm. Yup.
etu
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February 1, 2010 at 9:49 pm #3032250
Melody, Lyrics, Skill/Musicianship
by captbilly1eye · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to What makes for great music?
In that order.
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February 1, 2010 at 10:18 pm #3032248
Often it seems the lyrics are ignored
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to What makes for great music?
how many “slow songs” that everyone slow dances to are actually breakup songs, not love songs?
How many people know what ZZTop are talking in the song “Pearl Necklace”?
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February 1, 2010 at 10:20 pm #3032247
The musicianship
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Often it seems the lyrics are ignored
I do enjoy skilled playing. That is one of the reasons I am unable to enjoy “Country music”. The majority of it has all the complexity of the Barny theme song.
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February 2, 2010 at 5:17 am #3032215
I can enjoy country MUSIC,
by charliespencer · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to The musicianship
it’s the lyrics that run me off. I assume everyone know what happens when you play a country song backwards.
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February 2, 2010 at 10:48 am #3032126
I am almost afraid to ask
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to I can enjoy country MUSIC,
your dog comes back?
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February 2, 2010 at 11:06 am #3032109
Basically, yeah.
by charliespencer · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to I am almost afraid to ask
The tractor starts running, the bank refinances the farm, the cows hoof-and-mouth clears up, your brother-in-law gets out of jail, your daughter stops drinking, your wife quits running around, Grandma stops chewing tobacco…
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February 2, 2010 at 11:27 am #3032099
Got a guy on my dart team that LOVES Country
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Basically, yeah.
I explained to him MY definition of Country Music.
Metallica on a back road.
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February 2, 2010 at 6:09 am #3032195
That’s funny, jd
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to The musicianship
I’ve heard country listeners say the same about rock…and they’re both wrong. Country and rock music are both complex. The primary difference between them is the different ways to play the same instruments.
For example, rock calls it shredding; country calls it picking, but there’s very little technical difference between the two.
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February 2, 2010 at 10:54 am #3032122
There are always exceptions to the rule of course
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to That’s funny, jd
but when I ask the average Country fan to tell me a great guitar player, most can’t.
When I ask them to name a drummer, most can’t.
When I ask them to name a bass player, most can’t.
Most that I have heard is more someone (a hired gun, so it doesn’t matter who they are) playing a ride for filler behind the vocals, usually singing a song they bought from a writer.
And as for shredding, I am not just talking “screaming guitars”. Dire Straights and Clapton, (solo or with a band) are also examples of non=shredding yet well played music.
I do love to hear Steve Vai play though. There are a lot of great shredders, but he is one of the most creative I have heard.
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February 2, 2010 at 11:53 am #3032092
You’re kidding!
by charliespencer · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to There are always exceptions to the rule of course
“…when I ask the average Country fan to tell me a great guitar player, most can’t.”
Chet Atkins. Geez, I don’t listen to country music and I’m not a guitar aficionado, and even I can get that one right.
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February 2, 2010 at 11:12 am #3032105
Gotta disagree politely bub…
by forum surfer · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to The musicianship
Sorry for the “bub”, the kids had me watching X-Men/Wolverine all weekend.
You said you were a fan of Queensryche and Armored Saint. I played some guitar back in those days. While Queensyrche’s Chris DeGarmo had some really complex, in depth musicianship…some of his stuff (silent lucidity) was ridiculously simple. So simple that a 14 year old with a cheesy fm radio could pick it out and play it note for note. And Armored Saint? I was and still am a fan, but their music was inherently simple. The person who put the real musical creativity into the group instrumentation wise was Joey Vera, the bassist. I think Metallica even let the guy audition in the 80’s. Metallica is one of those love them or hate ’em bands, but no one can deny their musical depth even if they don’t like them. They put tons of thought, time, energy and creativity into their music.
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February 2, 2010 at 11:29 am #3032097
You can disagree, but that was a different conversation
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Gotta disagree politely bub…
those were examples of vocalists I enjoy.
As for music, complexity in and of its self does not greatness make.
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February 2, 2010 at 7:36 am #3032169
ZZ Top
by dmambo · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Often it seems the lyrics are ignored
I figured it out when I saw a completely unrelated movie on the subject. :O
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February 2, 2010 at 10:36 am #3032133
Good for you.
by charliespencer · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to ZZ Top
Now work on Jackson Browne’s ‘Rosey’, from the ‘Running on Empty’ album.
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February 2, 2010 at 10:55 am #3032121
Or for something less subtle
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Good for you.
“love dump” by Static X……
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February 2, 2010 at 2:00 pm #3032060
Another not so subtle
by netman1958 · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Or for something less subtle
Relax by Frankie Goes To Hollywood
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February 3, 2010 at 3:19 am #3031958
LOL
by oz_media · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Or for something less subtle
Static X, too many funny stories with them. Just reading the name brings me flashbacks of the B stage on the OzzFest tour with Primus and Zombie. I knew they would get picked up right before that tour, and won all bets, despite their lack of longevity.
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February 2, 2010 at 10:57 am #3032120
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February 3, 2010 at 3:27 am #3031957
I have to one up that!
by oz_media · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to I still remember years ago
And I am actually sharing this???
I had backstage passes to a ZZTop show circa 2001, they were the oddest passes I’d ever seen. A picture of an eye, a picture of bird and a picture of a sea captain, printed vertically on a stick-on pass.
After the show, I was talking to Billy Gibbons about his art collection when I heard the guy I was working for having an argument with ZZTop’s PR agent, then he stormed out of the room. They never did get along and I was really into talking to Billy, so I just ignored it and stayed to hang out with their INCREDIBLE looking dancers and the roadies, not knowing the joke was on me the whole time.
Apparently, as I later found out, their agent was having a laff(at my expense too of course) by leaving us a set of girl’s passes at WillCall.
The pictures were actually an “EYE” a “SWALLOW” and a “SEAMAN” 🙁
But they were really cool guys all the same and it was their best show I’ve ever seen.
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February 3, 2010 at 10:56 am #3031885
Why?
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to I have to one up that!
because they could….. 😀
Figured there was a message, and was trying to figure it out before I got to the explanation.
So, did you? :p
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February 2, 2010 at 5:07 am #3032217
I dunno, but I can’t wait until Ozzie finds this one.
by charliespencer · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to What makes for great music?
Lyrics usually matter to me most; it really gets my attention when someone uses the language skillfully, regardless of subject or style.
This is followed by musical / vocal skills, then the arrangement. I don’t dance, so beat and hooks are dead last for me, especially when the rhythm drowns out the vocals. That’s the problem I have trying to listen to much current popular music. I’m sure there’s some great wordplay going on there, but I just flat out cannot make out what they’re saying.
I abhor ‘sampling’; it only leaves me wanting to hear the original the sample was taken from.
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February 2, 2010 at 11:09 am #3032107
I was hoping Soni would pop her head in here
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to I dunno, but I can’t wait until Ozzie finds this one.
being a musician herself, it would have been nice to get her perspective.
And I don’t care about if someone gets a hit or sells a billion copies, just a personal issue of what makes something click for YOU.
I get up and dance, but that is more about how cute the girls are than the music, so it does not impact my decision process on what I do or don’t like musically.
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February 4, 2010 at 5:20 am #3032572
Soni popping her head in
by Sonja Thompson · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to I was hoping Soni would pop her head in here
Yes, I’m a musician, but it’s crazy how different the music is that I write/play vs. the music I listen to.
Music I write and/or learn to play is limited to my guitar skills. So, it’s mostly folk, ballads, and pop music. More often than not, I create the music first, and depending on the feel or the emotion of the music, the lyrics follow. I know some folks write lyrics first, like a very touching poem, but that rarely works for me.
As for which is more important (music or lyrics), I truly think it depends on the song. I can be extremely moved by an instrumental piece, and I can also get goosebumps by an artist singing a cappella if they have a good voice and the lyrics are powerful.
Now, on the total flip side, I mostly listen to techno, dance music, and rap/R&B. A lot of techno doesn’t have many lyrics – just high energy beats that play over and over and can (honestly) get a little monotonous. But I absolutely LOVE to dance, and that kind of music can’t help but make me move.
Ultimately, music preferences are very much an individual thing. The only kind of music I really don’t care for is country, but I can appreciate how much other enjoy it. There’s no good or bad… just different preferences.
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February 4, 2010 at 5:44 am #3032564
No good or bad?
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Soni popping her head in
go see some live local bands and you will quickly change your mind! 😀 There are plenty of “bad” examples out there!
B-)
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February 4, 2010 at 6:01 am #3032557
There is no bad music, JD
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to No good or bad?
Only bad musicians.
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February 2, 2010 at 7:02 pm #3032016
Sampling
by oz_media · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to I dunno, but I can’t wait until Ozzie finds this one.
Me too, however it bring back a lot of revenue for older artists and even starts selling their back catalogues.
There’s no hope of teaching youth what quality music consists of, as they feel quality fits in a compressed MP3 track. Even FM radio (which offers far more detail and dynamics than satellite radio) sounds like complete and utter garbage to my snobby ears these days.
Face it, if people are happy hearing 128kb music or even worse, satellite radio (comparitively,17kbps)how can they ever expect to heard real music.
It’s like expecting a MacDonald’s junkie to appreciate a quality, filet mignon. “Where’s the ketchup?” 😀
The earless are just like those with peasant taste buds.
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February 4, 2010 at 5:38 am #3032568
I dunno
by charliespencer · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Sampling
I don’t think Miley Cyrus, the Black Eyed Peas, or Beyonce would be worth my time regardless of the compression or playback system.
Incidentally, I have no appreciation for a ‘quality’ filet (or almost any other piece of cow). But I know this, and will politely suggest in advance my host not waste his money on me. I’d prefer a grilled burger, with some bleu or sharp cheddar, a good brown mustard, and a fresh jalapeno.
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February 4, 2010 at 5:43 am #3032565
This has turned into a food thread
by Sonja Thompson · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to I dunno
And it’s making me HUNGRY! 😉
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February 4, 2010 at 12:09 pm #3032437
Irrelevant
by oz_media · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to I dunno
Personal taste shouldn’t play a part. I agree that they are talentless and thus there is no excellence involved.
THis is also why I dimissed the topic as a dead end question already. There is no way to determine excellence in art.
But any artist will agree, that in order to properly display excellence, if initially present, is to have engineering and producing excellence to do it justice. A monotone photocopy of a Renoir just isn’t going to cut it.
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February 2, 2010 at 5:47 am #3032204
For me it’s some sort of emotional contact
by neilb@uk · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to What makes for great music?
first and foremost. Probably why I’m so fond of good Blues.
Must admit that I like stuff to be original and well performed. Karaoke – and that includes American Idol and X-Factor – doesn’t do it for me at all. I rarely like covers, however good technically, more than the original.
Never thought about it before but lyrics come a long way down the list for me.
😀
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February 2, 2010 at 6:32 am #3032191
Covers
by charliespencer · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to For me it’s some sort of emotional contact
I can only think of a couple cases where I prefer the cover to the original. One is Gladys Knight’s version of ‘The Way We Were’.
Geez, I guess maybe that’s the whole list.
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February 2, 2010 at 11:23 am #3032101
Palmy, a cover you might like
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Covers
Killing Me Softly – Jazz Violin interpretation featuring James Sanders & Conjunto
Most popular cover
Roberta Flack-Killing Me Softly With His Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B1wdau8uHU&feature=relatedThe original
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February 2, 2010 at 11:57 am #3032089
In order to like the cover,
by charliespencer · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Palmy, a cover you might like
I have to first like the song itself.
I’m just sayin’.
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February 2, 2010 at 12:16 pm #3032084
Based on “The Way We Were”
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to In order to like the cover,
I thought it might be in the same range.
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February 4, 2010 at 5:38 am #3032567
I think it’s more Gladys than the song itself.
by charliespencer · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Based on “The Way We Were”
One of those cases of a great performer making chicken salad.
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February 2, 2010 at 7:39 am #3032168
Steely Dan and REM
by dmambo · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to For me it’s some sort of emotional contact
Those are 2 bands I like, but as far as lyrics go, I rarely have any idea what their meanings are.
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February 2, 2010 at 1:30 pm #3032069
Ha
by seanferd · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Steely Dan and REM
Way back, Stipe used to have some sort of problem with people caring what the lyrics were at all.
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February 2, 2010 at 11:13 am #3032104
Covers vs originals
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to For me it’s some sort of emotional contact
I don’t like a cover that is a copy of the original. The Judas Priest song I linked to further up was a cover, but I love it. It isn’t their usual rocken version, but it is well done (for me).
I was shocked to learn that the Zep song “when the levy breaks” was a cover to an ancient Blues song when Mojo (Mae’s hubby) played it on cover night for FNM. The original sounds like wet cats in a bag to me.
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February 2, 2010 at 12:05 pm #3032088
If you think that one sounds different
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Covers vs originals
Try “Nobody’s Fault But Mine” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW1SRJrNZZw
or “I Can’t Quit You Babe” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQm6wcafQwE
The original of “You Shook Me” might sound a little better to you, but I can’t find it on Youtube. This is Willie Dixon (the writer) about 10 years after Muddy Waters recorded it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n7pfNNP2EM
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February 2, 2010 at 12:21 pm #3032082
I enjoy Blues MUSIC
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to If you think that one sounds different
but not much of a fan of Blues singing.
More of a Jazz fan.
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February 2, 2010 at 1:40 pm #3032068
For whatever reason
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to I enjoy Blues MUSIC
Female blues vocalists seem to have much better voices than the males. Give a listen to Billie Holiday, Etta James, or Aretha if you haven’t already.
If you ask me (and you did 😉 ), the best female vocalist out there has for years been Pat Benatar. The woman has a voice!
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February 3, 2010 at 10:07 am #3031903
That’s not really fair, Nick
by dmambo · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to For whatever reason
Comparing Billie Holiday and Aretha’s voices to anyone is like comparing a fine French Poodle to a stray mongrel.
Diana Krall also has a nice set of pipes.
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February 3, 2010 at 6:09 pm #3031755
Maybe, maybe not
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to That’s not really fair, Nick
Some of the classic female blues singers had some great voices: Ma Rainey, Sippie Wallace, Ethel Waters, and Bessie Smith can all compare to Billie and Aretha.
Shemekia Copeland, Marcia Ball and Susan Tedeschi are some of the great female voices in blues today.
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February 3, 2010 at 11:02 am #3031881
I have often said the same
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to For whatever reason
Pat has always been one of my fav female singers, and was bummed that she never did get bigger than she was.
Amy Lee from Evanescense has a great voice, and I feel one of the best out today.
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February 4, 2010 at 5:42 am #3032566
I believe Pat B. studied opera at a conservatory for several years
by charliespencer · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to For whatever reason
before going into rock. I wish she’d have continued recording; unlike many of today’s multi-octave singers, either Pat or her producers knew when to keep her in check and when to unleash. You don’t need to demonstrate your full range on every song, Whitney.
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February 2, 2010 at 6:56 am #3032185
For me, a lot is when it hit me
by dmambo · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to What makes for great music?
I know you don’t like Springsteen, for instance, but when I was 15 and heard Born to Run and Thunder Road, it’s like he was reading my mind. It was all about getting out and moving on, which I was itching to do at the time.
Later, when I became more socially aware, U2 and Neil Young fit the bill. I also always liked the jangly guitar, so some of the 80’s New Wave-ish acts like Talking Heads and Elvis hit me.
On the other hand, Pink Floyd just blew me away when I listened to my older brother’s music. Now, I listen to a lot of Blues. Must be that I’m married with kids 😉
Edit – Guilty Pleasure from the 70’s – Minnie Riperton, “Lovin’ You”
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February 2, 2010 at 10:00 am #3032146
My first
by boxfiddler · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to For me, a lot is when it hit me
8-track! [i]Born To Run[/i]. Purchased with Jesse Colin Young’s [i]Light Shine[/i]. :^0
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February 2, 2010 at 10:12 am #3032141
8-track?
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to My first
I’ve never owned one. Just one more way in which I failed at life in the 70s.
I don’t know what the guys I hung with were doing to their players, but I kept hearing the wrong adjacent tracks (e.g. 2/3 instead of 1/2). Nothing quite like hearing the intro to In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida from one channel and the drum solo from the other…at the same time.
I went straight to cassette.
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February 2, 2010 at 11:00 am #3032117
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February 2, 2010 at 11:55 am #3032091
You know it.
by boxfiddler · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to 8-Tracks in ’75?
We were of the broke, broke, broke variety when I was young.
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February 2, 2010 at 12:40 pm #3032077
I missed 8-tracks completely
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to You know it.
Although I do recall going over to Dads and he would have a Reel to reel going.
In an early car, I remember ONE that had 8-track “sky rockets in flight! Afternoon delighhhighht!”
From there, it was mostly cassettes and LP’s for him, and I got most of his LP’s when he passed.
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February 2, 2010 at 11:02 am #3032112
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February 2, 2010 at 11:08 am #3032108
You’ll appreciate
by charliespencer · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to My first
my first 8-track being the soundtrack to ‘West Side Story’.
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February 2, 2010 at 11:30 am #3032096
~sigh~
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to You’ll appreciate
And you said you didn’t dance…..
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February 2, 2010 at 11:05 am #3032110
Some people just never did it for me
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to For me, a lot is when it hit me
Something about the way Springsteen’s style of singing, I have never liked anything he did, still don’t.
Guilty pleasure, hmmm, will have to think about that one.
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February 2, 2010 at 2:04 pm #3032059
Last night I watched a recording of David Gilmour
by neilb@uk · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to For me, a lot is when it hit me
in a concert at the Albert Hall in London. Along with Richard Wright, his guests were David Bowie, Robert Wyatt and Crosby and Nash.
I ordered the DVD five minutes after it had finished and I’d got my breath back…
Neil 🙂
Not a bad gig for bunch of wrinkly old farts!
When Gilmour’s guitar cuts in the hairs stand up on the back of my neck – just as they have every time I hear it. OK, that pretty much defines what I want from music.
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February 2, 2010 at 3:42 pm #3032039
You’re right about that, neil
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Last night I watched a recording of David Gilmour
I’ve had the set for just over a year and never get tired of it. If it was on tape, I’d have had to replace it by now.
Pity I have to go back out, or I’d watch it again tonight. 😀
What I’m waiting for is having enough saved up to buy a player [u]just[/u] for my Pink Floyd collection. Once I have that… B-)
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February 3, 2010 at 3:37 pm #3031788
LOL
by oz_media · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Last night I watched a recording of David Gilmour
More than one guy in that audience tweaking out on acid. 😀
You’re right though neil.
Another act you have to catch is the Australian cover band Pink Floyd Experience.
They are so good that Gilmour endorses them and they are allowed to tour using the REAL Pink Floyd pig, backing videos etc. They usually play midsize venues, under <8K seats and fill them for several consecutive shows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1QrwihUzjU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKFB8LRDgP0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJBAxk9WQAo&feature=related
Seriously, search out a bunch of their stuff on YouTube, they really do go for the full pull and are note perfect.
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February 2, 2010 at 7:34 am #3032170
How about this? Why does some music become so popular?
by dmambo · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to What makes for great music?
Take this example from back in the olden times. I don’t think I ever met anybody who would classify himself as a fan of the band Foreigner, yet they were very popular for a few years. I don’t know much about the technical aspect of music, but I wouldn’t exactly call their music nuanced or complex. Who was buying this stuff at the time? I’m sure there are many other examples (Britney Spears??), but this one has always stood out to me.
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February 2, 2010 at 11:00 am #3032116
Popular does not always equal Great, or even Good
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to How about this? Why does some music become so popular?
As for OLD Foreigner, songs like Blue Morning, Blue Day had a good grove. I loathed later on when they started to put out “hits”.
Foreigner – Blue Morning, Blue Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chITGV3ngH8&feature=related-
February 2, 2010 at 12:39 pm #3032078
Foreigner
by ganyssa · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Popular does not always equal Great, or even Good
lost me at 4, which is exactly when all of my friends figured out who they were.
Sadly, I just learned that Mariah Carey covered I Want to Know What Love Is. It’s on Sirius right now.
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February 2, 2010 at 1:55 pm #3032061
Another example: Kansas
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to How about this? Why does some music become so popular?
How many people know Kansas released 3 albums before “Leftoverture”? I much prefer those albums to what came later, much as I prefer the early Foreigner.
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February 3, 2010 at 11:19 am #3031875
If I could give a “thumbs up”
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Another example: Kansas
I would. 🙂
I do like the early 80’s music of theirs though.
Hold On
Play the game tonight
Not a lot of flash, just great music.
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February 3, 2010 at 6:35 pm #3031751
My favorite early songs
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to If I could give a “thumbs up”
Sweet Child of Innocence – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_FcHC0GZzw
This one rocks in that inimitable Kansas fashion.Down The Road – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApGw7G9vLHU
Another rockerThe title track from Song for America and Incomudro-Hymn to the Atman are also faves, but more for their orchestration than beat, although they rock too.
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February 3, 2010 at 10:00 pm #3031723
More noise than I am used to hearing from them
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to My favorite early songs
Sweet child of innocent, more echo and keyboards than I am used to, and down the road just isn’t as clean as I expect out of them.
Again, just my preferences, based upon my experiences.
Wow, that is a lot of keyboard driven music. 🙂 I realize that is what was popular at the time. It does kind of make me think of the heavy keys in Uriah Heap.
Easy living
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February 3, 2010 at 11:42 pm #3031718
Well, there’s 7 years
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to More noise than I am used to hearing from them
And the songwriter difference between the albums. Plus, as you point out, the times and musical tastes were different.
It’s all good. Hey, it’s over four hours past my bedtime and I’ve got Godsmack on the stereo right now.
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February 4, 2010 at 4:11 am #3032590
Luv Godsmack
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Well, there’s 7 years
I do consider Sully a vocalist rather than a singer though, but I really do enjoy it. 🙂
Am also a big fan of when they do the dueling drums. It is so rare to find an enjoyable drum solo.
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February 2, 2010 at 6:08 pm #3032021
Music is an inspiration
by av . · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to What makes for great music?
I think music is great if it inspires you in some way. It doesn’t matter how its achieved. Maybe the song has great vocals or a catchy beat. Maybe the musicians have a lot of style. If you can relate to the song, its great music.
AV
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February 3, 2010 at 11:06 am #3031880
sometimes, sometimes not
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Music is an inspiration
it is just curious to me on how people come to their choices, and if they even know themselves.
And as we have seen here, people look for different things.
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February 2, 2010 at 8:15 pm #3032001
Watchout “Old Fart talking”
by steve.hascall · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to What makes for great music?
I Bough a brand spanking new Dokorder 12″ Real to Real. I was rockin Dudes. I used to take my LP’s and record them through the Real to Real and used “echo on”. It would add an echo chamber effect to the sound track, and to me made it way more intense. I over wrote Styx, Deep Purple, Foghat, The original Reo SpeedWagon, Nazareth Foreigner (sorry),38 Special…etc..
For some reason adding the echo to those early sounds which I already loved made them seem even more magical, and enhanced.
Also anything Stevie Nixs, Ann, and Nancy Wilson sang at that time was Golden.
(I warned you)
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February 2, 2010 at 8:26 pm #3031998
Your warning
by drowningnotwaving · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Watchout “Old Fart talking”
… was well merited !!
REO Speedwagon? Music? Same sentence?
JUST JOSHIN of course!! 🙂
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February 2, 2010 at 9:24 pm #3031995
There’s another group
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Your warning
That released several excellent albums before going pop…
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February 2, 2010 at 9:35 pm #3031993
The funniest thing
by drowningnotwaving · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to There’s another group
.. in a discussion like this is someone putting forward their opinion only to have someone else disagree!!!
To which, I was (tongue-slightly-in-cheek) similarly guilty!
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February 3, 2010 at 11:11 am #3031878
Watch the toes as you dance around the room
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to The funniest thing
No one here is going to be offended by you not liking something they do.
It is only the ignorant idiots that confuse them not liking something with it not being good. Or as the kids say, “that sucks!” just because they don’t like it. 😀
Sure, I tease the people that like Country, because I can. B-)
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February 2, 2010 at 9:53 pm #3031992
Wow.
by boxfiddler · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Your warning
I hope so. They’re neighbors… 😀
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February 3, 2010 at 11:08 am #3031879
Actually
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Your warning
they do have ONE song I like, riding the storm out.
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February 3, 2010 at 12:32 pm #3031855
if I said that I loathe them I meant
by drowningnotwaving · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Actually
that I loathe them furrrrrreverrrrrrrrrr
Sorry. 🙂
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February 3, 2010 at 1:24 pm #3031836
Heard any of these?
by shasca · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to if I said that I loathe them I meant
“Gypsy Woman’s Passion” ? 5:17
“157 Riverside Avenue” ? 3:57
“Anti-Establishment Man” ? 5:21
“Lay Me Down” ? 3:51
“Sophisticated Lady” ? 4:00
“Five Men Were Killed Today” ? 3:00
“Prison Women” ? 2:36
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February 3, 2010 at 2:29 pm #3031812
Let me guess
by drowningnotwaving · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Heard any of these?
A fay-an?
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February 3, 2010 at 5:16 pm #3031767
Yeah Bigtime
by shasca · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Let me guess
In the late 70’s. These days I like…. I Like….. Um less see Pink rocks a little.
Oh kay I’m done there isn’t hardly anything that doesn’t get old after listening to it say ten times. Thats assuming it may have sparked a bit of interest after couple of plays on the Radio 99.9 kppl.
I have a free download for 3 songs on MSN Music that I have had for 2 yrs now. I haven’t been inspired to redeem it yet.
I must be becoming tone deaf…………
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February 3, 2010 at 8:01 pm #3031740
On that basis
by drowningnotwaving · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Let me guess
… my apology for using one of your favourite band’s name in vain even if tongue-in-cheek!
I should have focussed my ridicule on Toto and Chicago.
I’ll do better next time. 🙂
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February 3, 2010 at 6:40 pm #3031750
Steve, you forgot to tell him
by nicknielsen · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Heard any of these?
You can tune a piano, but you can’t tuna fish. 😀
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February 2, 2010 at 10:08 pm #3031990
My hardest problem
by drowningnotwaving · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to What makes for great music?
… is to be open to new music, and new influences that may not necessarily be new musicians, with the same zeal I had when I was 20 years old. Which is nearly 30 years ago.
Gets harder every year, but sometimes it’s worth the effort.
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February 3, 2010 at 11:13 am #3031876
Call a doctor if swelling lasts longer than 4 hours
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to My hardest problem
is a “hardest problem”. 😀
I actually am the opposite, and am MORE open to new music every year.
I loath rap more and more each year too.
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February 3, 2010 at 2:52 pm #3031807
In America is it really your privilege
by drowningnotwaving · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Call a doctor if swelling lasts longer than 4 hours
to prescribe your own drugs ???!!!
Is that actually true – you can get onto internet pharmacies and get your own prescriptions?
If so, with apologies to Santee – EXCELLENT!!
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February 4, 2010 at 4:13 am #3032589
No, not true at all
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to In America is it really your privilege
Any internet sites that don’t require a valid prescription are all outside of the US borders, so regulations are not enforceable, plus you have no way of knowing what you are really getting.
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February 4, 2010 at 6:16 am #3032555
Ditto.
by charliespencer · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to My hardest problem
In my case, part of it is just not caring any more. Music plays a less important role in my entertainment options.
Part of it is the targeting of radio stations to specific audiences. Maybe I’m misremembering, but I recall the AM stations of my youth playing a wider range of genres than what stations play today. These days you wouldn’t hear a range like Alice Cooper, the Temptations, and Neil Diamond on the same station. I realize those playlists were strongly influenced by the record labels (legally and illegally), but it seemed to make it easier to be exposed to a variety of styles.
I know the Internet offers a huge number of selections, but I suffer from ‘paralysis by analysis’ and don’t know where to start. Combine that with my overall decline in interest, and that cheap thrill when the radio offers a tune I haven’t thought of in years, and I just can’t motivated about music over the Internet. It just looks like too much work.
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February 3, 2010 at 10:18 am #3031898
Music
by jellimonsta · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to What makes for great music?
Nah! Don’t like it! 😉 :p ;\
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February 3, 2010 at 11:24 am #3031873
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February 3, 2010 at 1:13 pm #3031844
That’s cool…
by jellimonsta · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to Hope you don’t mind me posting this here?
I am fine with you promoting my band wherever you want. 😀
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February 3, 2010 at 1:56 pm #3031819
And a bad song that hits home is valid too
by jdclyde · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to That’s cool…
If a song is a perfect fit for something in your life, it just grabs a hold and won’t let go.
How are things going with the band?
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February 3, 2010 at 1:58 pm #3031818
Slow going…
by jellimonsta · about 14 years, 1 month ago
In reply to And a bad song that hits home is valid too
We haven’t had a consistent practice schedule since before Christmas. Things are settling down a little more now though, so we should be getting back into the swing of it soon.
We need to get back to being show ready. We were ready to play out in November, but have played so little since then, we are not so much right now. :0
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