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When Honesty Fails

By FluxIt ·
There have been many discussions on ethics and I would like to take a few moments to discuss honesty and openess. Recently, while riding in the car with my boss, he remarked that my problem is I am too honest. I put the truth out there and deal withit. His point was that many people feel by doing this I am telling others how to do there job or I am getting too close to thier sacred territory. This is manifested in an informal slogan running around stating, Tell me what you want but do not tellme how to do it. Many staff member barf this up routinely.

The slogan's intended purpose is to demark territorial boundaries and in technology there are no real boundaries because it overlaps into everything. This is compounded by the fact that Iam versed in many areas of a business and can carry conversations above novice level on most aspects. So I tend to see a bigger picture than most people. Additionally, I am able to spot weakness in many proposals and usually seek to streamline and strengthen the systems. In my mind I am always running scenarios, keep all kinds of tid bits around, and constantly look for ways to leverage technology.

I most always seek to soften my ideas and leverage off the initially proposal. Nonetheless, at times this tends to threaten people in my estimation and they ardently defend thier position.

If honesty is the best medicine, how come there seems to be so much gagging, hacking, and wheezing? I wonder if at times people just want to be sick.

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You or them

by maxwell edison In reply to Kaliescopes of truth

"In many ways, people tend to have small minds and a narrow focus. They lose sight of anything beyond 3 inches from thier nose."

Are you describing them or you? (Or perhaps both?)


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Its a matter of attitude

by isys In reply to When Honesty Fails

After a ling time of dealing with people who do not thoroughly understand the technology business it's easy to become cynical. And if someone only understands a certain facet (like router boy?) they become territorial. When you barge in proposing to do the undoable project, you threaten their standing and possibly the whole peer group. Now it has become a matter of professional honor, and they can't lose face. Hence, the attitude that it can't be done or stonewalling.
What can you do? Accept as fact that you will not be able to help everyone and not all of your solutions will be accepted with open arms. As you move up in the corporate world you will be required to participate in the petty (and not so petty) political games that go on every day. How you deal with these issues will determine how far up the ladder you get. Your boss appears to be mentoring you on this subject, which might indicate he believes you are ready to move up. Altruism is nice but in the cold light of day it's how you interact with your co-workers in accomplishing set goals that will determine your future.

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It seems you are talking more about loyalty than honesty.

It would be nice if every employee put their loyalty in the work place to the whole organization, and then down to their own organization.

Too many people put their own personal power above loyalty to the organization and feel that anyone who steps on their turf is violating them personally. I see this as company disloyalty. Most people who make suggestions are trying to improve the overall organization and thus increase organizational value.

Always be on the lookout for those who have two sets of rules, one for themselves and one for others.

Then there are the politicians who never want to be associated with anything contraversal, so opposing someone who is acting against the organizational interests is forbidden in their eyes, and is most change, regardless of whether it is good for the organization or not.

Sigh, Billions of dollars each year are wasted by the foolishness that goes on.

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A correction and a comment

by maxwell edison In reply to When Honesty Fails

Humor is the best medicine.

Honesty is the best policy.

Diplomacy is the best approach.


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Three cheers for three sage lines

by generalist In reply to A correction and a comme ...

I like these three lines of advice. Properly applied, they work wonders.

I've used a variant of it when dealing with high level support calls. If you get the client laughing early on, a major 'fire' can become a semi-controlled burn. At that point, when you're no longer threatened with disaster, you can use honesty and diplomacy to get to the root of the problem and put out the fire.

Sometimes this approach will even result in the client admitting that they might have made the mistake that you know is responsible for the problem. Laughter, honesty and diplomacy can often break the ice and make clients less defensive.

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Solve the Problem - Avoid Blame

Good points,

here is another.

The Key is to solve the problem. Not to place blame on why it is a problem or why it is so difficult. Do not point fingers.

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