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Where were you on 9/11?

By Oz_Media ·
I looked at my watch last night at 2:30AM and noticed the date. I instantly thought of 9/11 and where I was that morning as it all came back to me and I remembered the sheer terror of it all and the confusion as to WHAT was actually Happening in New York. First I heard America had been bombed and was at war, then more reports came in that it was a bomb in the WTC, then the seminar was stopped and a live feed brought into the conference room.

I felt for the men who were conducting the Macromedia seminar, most were from the USA and simply didn't know what to do, being away from home. Shortly after, the room dissipated and everyone ended up in one of the many local pubs.

I went and watched with friends at the Jolly Taxpayer (great name for a Canadian pub)it was some time before anyone really knew what had happened and I think that was the hardest part, how do you react to something you just don't have a clear grasp of in the first place, what do you do when you don't know what's going on?

I don't have a memory of where I was when JFK was shot but I know how it is said everyone remembers where they were, I never understood the true significance on this until last night when I had a mental flasback of that morning after realizing the date.

My deepest sympathies go out to all those who lost on that sickening day in world history, the way the American people came together was an example to all of how underneath all of our outward differences, we can all find a common heart.

With all my arguments and complaints aside, I think that today of all days is certainly a day for Americans to be proud and show their pride and strength.

Hold you heads high, God bless America

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David Stephson

by Black Panther In reply to Yes but not for a long ti ...

I used to play in the Toowoomba Chess Club, Logan City and Brisbane ( years ago )

David Stephson I believe was Qld Junior Champion for ages and I used to play against him!

Did you have a rating??

I actually purchased in 1979 one of the first chess computers Chess Champion ( very weak )

I then purchased one strength 2150 and have some Chessmaster PC programs.


You are probably already aware but usually women are not interested in Chess ---

I actually have video from Channel 4 England of the match between Gary Kasparov and Nigel Short.

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I only played for fun

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to David Stephson

Completion chess is a bit like showing Dogs most of the people involved aren't as well bread as their dogs. I found the same with Chess compositions as most people where only in it to win and where very "Bitchy."

I on the other hand love the game and all the little things that are involved as well as the strategy. As far as Chess programs go I mostly leave them alone as I've yet to find a good one although I did like the old DOS "Killer Chess" it's something like the "Wizard Chess in the Harry Potter films" but it doesn't work on a late Windows platform and while I still have the disks somewhere here filed away I couldn't find them last time I loaded a Windows 3.11 computer for reference and eventually I got jack of trying to remember how to set it up on my network so I just installed Windows 95B which would run the program if I could only find those few floppies among all of my stored floppies. I have things that go back to DR DOS 5 as well as most of the M$ stuff and there are literally thousands of the things that need to be soughed through. What made it worse was a long time ago I went out to reload a computer at the Gold Coast and the person who carried a lot of the floppies down to the car dropped a printer box full of the things which sought of messed things up quite a lot.

The video however does sound interesting as at that level you see some really good or I should say brilliant moves and the usual pettiness isn't around that you see at the lower levels.

Col

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9/11

by Black Panther In reply to Where were you on 9/11?

Were about to go on our September School Holidays - to the Gold Coast ( Queensland - Australia ) - I was watching the news in the morning 7am and saw the plane crash into the building. Thought it was an aircraft accident pilot error until another plane did the same thing!

It was almost beyond belief what we were seeing on TV.

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Unbelievable

by FrankTech In reply to Where were you on 9/11?

I was watching the late news(about 11.00pm here in Australia)and a report came on that a plane had hit the World Trade building. I thought at the time it was probably a little plane that had just gone off course.
Then to my horror I witnessed the second Jet go into the other Tower.
Called friends and relatives and told them to turn their TV's on.
Now we all live in a different world.

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I was on my way to work

by AV . In reply to Where were you on 9/11?

On Rte. 78 in Summit, NJ, about 20 miles from NYC. I heard the news on the radio while driving, but they weren't sure if the first plane that hit the towers was an accident or act of terrorism. After I got to work, the 2nd plane hit the towers and they collapsed. Then we began to know that it was an act of terrorism.

Everyone at work was very worried about where it would end. People used every available resource to try to contact their loved ones. Phone lines were flooded with calls, the Internet was so slow. There was no news and we all didn't know what was going on.

Many people at work have friends and family that work in NY. My brother-in-law worked for a large company in the WTC. They employed about 800 workers in the WTC. He was lucky because he was not in the office that day. Another person's husband worked in Jersey City, NJ, right across the water from the WTC. He saw everything from there. The smoke, fire and collapsing WTC.

It was an awful day and the days after that were horrible to. In Summit, NJ, they started to mark the tires in the parking lot of commuters whose cars had not moved in several days. They could be possible victims of the WTC.

In the weeks ahead, we had an anthrax in the mail scare. People opened the mail with latex gloves. There was one time I went to work and a major highway was shut down because they were pursuing a person of interest. I was stuck on the highway and couldn't get off.

The terror attacks were very prominent in your life if you lived in Northern NJ or the NYC area. This area has a very diverse population. There are alot of people that you really don't know where they are from. After 9/11, you really had to look at things differently.

There were always lots of memorials and funeral processions after that. Over 700 people died from NJ. It was a very, very sad time.

The only good thing that came out of it was a brotherhood and patriotism among people. Everyone banded together. I wish that would have lasted.

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I was teaching a class.

by milfordwillie In reply to Where were you on 9/11?

I am a science and technology instructor in a high school level program in Cincinnati. The lab had about ten kids in it that morning.

When the phone call from my wife came, we turned on the monitor we have in the lab: a small 9" screen that normally displays laserdisk animation, but also gets local news. All of us saw the second plane hit that tower and we didn't move for what seemed like an entire day.

I am not sure what effect a lot of this had on the kids who were in class that day. I was chastised by one of the other staff at work for leaving the television on and letting the kids watch. But that day the subject wasn't technology or computers, it was history.

We all remember something like this. My Dad remembered where he was when he heard about Pearl Harbor. A lot people look at JFK's assassination the same way. There is such an event in every generation that opens our eyes too wide and reminds us that we are human and can still be shocked.

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Remember it well

by JamesRL In reply to Where were you on 9/11?

I was working as an IT Manager at Atomic Energy of Canada Ltd. That company designs and builds the CANDU reactor around the world. They have a research facility at Chalk River Ontario with some experimental reactors and thats where 85% of the medical isotopes used in radition therapy and radioactive imaging are produced.

I was in a meeting that ended about 9:30. It was too quiet. Someone whispered something and I went down to the cafeteria where someone was setting up a TV. Emotions ran high that day. One of my collegues who had a son who worked in the towers. He wasn't there at the time. We were naturally worried about reactors as targets.

Later that day we learned about all the stranded passengers - planes that had been denied entry into US airspace. Some friends of ours put up some of those Americans. Pearson looked like a parking lot with all those extra jets lined up(I drive by it on the way home).

I am too young to remember JFK being shot, but I do remember when Bobby Kennedy was killed, and Martin Luther King. I remember the FLQ kidnappings and the soldiers in the streets in Canada.


James

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Actually James

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to Remember it well

When I suggested that the Reactors would have been far better targets for that type of attack I was howled down by a few people here at TR and they all seemed to be saying that I didn't know what I was talking about because all of the Radio Active components where deep underground and only the cooling towers where above ground.

I didn't bother responding to these people as I didn't want to instill any more fear into them and it seemed to me that allowing them their false sense of security was a better alternative. They all seemed to be hurting enough and unfortunately they all seemed to think that it couldn't have been far worse.

The reality of the whole thing is that we as a world where lucky as if that attack had of been planed properly it should have been far worse than it actually was. I for one am glad that Alquedia chose to make the statement that did with so little damage as the alternative was just too horrific to think about.

Col

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That was actually a question I had raised too

by Oz_Media In reply to Actually James

I was asking about security and no fly zones. I would ASSUME that flights would not be allowed to pass within a specified distance of a nuclear reactor. Then I realized that with the number of plants and the vast number of airlines, this seems impossible.

Perhaps James would know about no fly zones or if planes are even allowed to fly near nuclear plants?

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Well actually I do

by JamesRL In reply to That was actually a quest ...

I hesitated at the time to mention it.

I am not a reactor designer, or engineer. I don't claim to have that detailled knowledge, but I can speculate based only on what I've been told.

I can't speak for the enriched uranium designs that most of the world uses. Yes, the cooling tower is a pretty big target, but I'd want to know more about the layout before assuming that taking out a cooling tower would not have any collateral effect.

I can tell you that a CANDU reactor does not use enriched uranium(though it can be adpated). The reactor is above ground. The reaction depends on the presence of heavy water, hence if a plane was lucky enough to hit the reactor, the worst case scenario would be that the containment building is breached, the heavy water is drained from the reactor by damage, and the reaction stops. It would not mean massive loss of life. It would mean a radiation leak, though much smaller than Three Mile Island. It would most certainly shut down forever a very expensive reactor. Since these CANDUs are built in pairs, or sometimes in sets of 4, there would be some level of damage to the other co-located reactors.

Is there a no fly Zone - yes. Is it big? No. I don't know the size, but I have flow to Montreal and there are two major nuclear sites along the way. Are there enough fighters to enforce it - no. Would a plane from Toronto international be able to veer off course to hit a reactor - a modern jet would.

There was an incident where a student pilot flew within the no fly zone of Pickering (closest reactor to Toronto). I believe he was within a mile. He was investigated.

I left that job in 2002, and there may have been changes since then.

James

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