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Why are vendors demanding WinXP?

By jdclyde ·
What could possibly be worse than buying a product and missing the fine print about requirements? That it isn't a speed requirement, but an OS requirement.

Bought my boys each an MP3 player. Chose not to go with an Ipod.

We get up Christmas morning, and they see they each have a 512M MP3 player and are geeked!

The problems start when we try to fire this pig up. Great, they system requirements are incompatable with my boys PC. Too slow? Not enough memory? Not enough free disk space? WRONG. It HAS to have WinXPsp1 or higher. What crap is this? And what in the world would have ever made me think for a second that this piece of crap would not run as a simple USB flash drive?

Will I EVER again purchace anything from http://www.iriveramerica.com ? You can bet your LIFE I will not, and I will strongly recommend against it to anyone I see.

Got the T30 model.

What are you thinking iRiver? Locking yourself to an operating system?

Now I get to look for a hack to get this friggen pig to work on win2k or setup a XP partition just so we can do mp3's.

I wonder if linux would work with this? Have been meaning to setup a linux desktop at home after the holidays, and if it will work for these devices then that would be all the kick in the a$$ I need!

Well, off to research what it will take to get these going. Anyone got any ideas?

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unreasonable

by jdclyde In reply to I'm MP3 ignorant,

it is just a fancy FLASH drive!

What about a flash drive is or should be OS specific?

I am going with the sandisk that was recommended and it states it is "PC" compatable for it's requirements.

Keep in mind, this is like a digital camera. It is a device that just happens to get information from a computer, not a computer accessory.

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You shouldn't have to be a geek to buy a simple device.

by nighthawk808 In reply to I'm MP3 ignorant,

You seem to have missed the point about there being specific system requirements in the first place. There shouldn't be. Again, the concept of a basic MP3 player is like the basic car: they all work the same way, so requiring a special road for a certain type of car is ridiculous.

The equivalent to car accessories here is included media players. There's no problem making a special, "enhanced" media player that reads MP3 data and only works with Windoesn't. That's an extraneous bell and/or whistle above basic MP3 functionality. It's not unreasonable to expect that a Ford engine computer wouldn't work in a Chevy. But that's not the issue. The issue is creating proprietary formats for no particular reason and then supporting those superfluous formats for only one particular OS.

Sure, with a road paved in a series of cycloids, Ford could create cars that ran perfectly smoothly on square tires. But that's just plain stupid and unnecessary. Creating an MP3 player that won't work in any of the several dozen media players available for Linux is just as stupid and unnecessary.

If you bought a car, brought it home, and then found out that it requires a special plutonium-based fuel that can only be bought at Ford dealers, would you be happy about that? You seem to suggest he should blame himself for not asking the salesman if it ran on gasoline like practically every other car on the road today. A question like that shouldn't be necessary.

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The simplest solution was to buy the iPod

by Chief Bottle Washer In reply to You shouldn't have to be ...

In an effort to dominate the computer world Microsoft continues
to develop proprietary software and insists that it is the
standard. The simplest solution always escapes Microsoft.

He should have bought the iPod.

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Gah, NO! The iPod is over priced and is NOT a simple solution

by jmgarvin In reply to The simplest solution was ...

I can't "raw" write to an iPod in Linux. How is that easier? I can get a 2gb MP3 player for around $100, where as an iPod Shuffle 512mb is $100.

Also, the iPod is also OS specific. IIRC you can't use Win 9x with an iPod.

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The choice you made

by Chief Bottle Washer In reply to Gah, NO! The iPod is ove ...

The choice you made was primarily based on your preferred
mode of operation. And yes it is also OS specific. iTunes has
never worked with Window9x, as far as I recall, and just plain old
works with everything else.

Face it - Cheap is cheap is cheap!

The choice is yours.

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I Potty

by DirtClod In reply to Gah, NO! The iPod is ove ...

I-Pod - another in a long list of overpriced empty promises by individuals whose talent is designing computer cases that work and look like toaster ovens. (See Sellout)

Yet another trap - kind of like marketing heroin to kids. Geez, wrap something in silver, lime green or purple, get posers to dance with it on a commercial, who cares if it works? - it's the fashion statement that's important.

About as stupid as the "game boxes." Buy one - a year later they "upgrade" it, forcing you to buy another fix. Meanwhile, the music pirates thrive on. (And more power to them)

Remember? They told us that I-pod and I-tunes were going to end all of that - yeah...right chief, I'll get on that right away!

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I have an iPod

by jdclyde In reply to The simplest solution was ...

and think it is crap for what you would pay for it. I wouldn't even own THAT one if I wouldn't have got it FREE as a door prize at a Voip demo. :)

No, I would never buy one.

I want a flash drive that plays MP3's.

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I'll take it

by Chief Bottle Washer In reply to I have an iPod

I'll take it. I'll even pay for shipping. Work's with my Windows MP
system and that's all I care about.

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The simplest solution was to buy the iPod

by Chief Bottle Washer In reply to You shouldn't have to be ...

In an effort to dominate the computer world Microsoft continues
to develop proprietary software and insists that it is the
standard. The simplest solution always escapes Microsoft.

He should have bought the iPod.

You guys make these things too complicated.

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Problem is...

by jmgarvin In reply to I'm MP3 ignorant,

An MP3 play is just a glorified USB drive. It stores data in a VERY similar manner to USB thumb drives.

So the problem is that it just doesn't make sense to make the device OS dependent. It should be plug and play and transfer data in a similar manner to any other thumb drive.

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