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Why do IT people really bash Windows?

I wrote about this in another thread in response to a comparison of windows question.

Anyway, it's a hot topic in my opinion so let me recap. Comment away. :)

Why does everyone "bash" Windows? I could sit here and bash linux, windows, mac os and anything else, but that is just pointless and pedantic.

The point is every operating system has it uses. You just need to choose what best suits your needs.

Anyone who claims to hate Microsoft Windows, Linux, Mac OS or any other operating system is not a true techie or network guru. You don't ever bash the OS, in fact if the OS crashes then it's your fault not the OS; Why didn't you make sure that it was using the right drivers, or the hardware is compatible or blah this and blah that, and so the list goes. Any OS crashes for a reason, not because it just feels like it. Compatability is there for a very good reason, why support something that is old when you need to keep moving forwards. Example, all leaded petrol car owners here in Australia can no longer purchase leaded petrol, they are forced now to use unleaded and an additive. Why? Because those cars are so old and they are few and far between now because unleaded cars are cheap enough to buy second hand as your first car. Get my point there?

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Kudos!

by han810p In reply to Then there are those that ...

I've been saying it for years -
Form follows function.
Our AutoCAD users have to use Windows - no choice. So do it right. Carefully match hardware/software/drivers and all is well.
Our graphics people use Macs. It is the best platform for what they do, and again, we are careful in what we install.
Our servers? A mix - because the accounting system only runs on MS (it is specialized for the A/E/C industry, so don't tell me to get them to change!)
And the DMZ server? Unix. Best fit for the need.

I harbor no bigotry toward any OS - and enjoy learning the intricacies of each. Challenge yourself to do the best with the tools you are provided, and you will be rewarded with more and better assignments.

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Totally agree

by max.bennett In reply to Then there are those that ...

I think you are right, some people complain because they have nothing better to do with their time. I equate them to Democrats (not all, but most) who look to find faults in everyone and everything rather than looking at something for what it is and saying, maybe we can make that better. Windows may not be perfect, but then again what is. My cell phone sometimes doesn't get good reception. My satellite sometimes goes out when the weather is really bad. My CD player will skip is there is a smudge or scratch on the CD. What I'm getting at here is we have a tool, let's all look at it as that and if you can make a constructive criticism or suggest some way to improve it fine. But if not, keep your negative thoughts to yourself.

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Old tech vs. new tech

by Codfieri In reply to

A large (very large) part of the problem of modern Operating Systems can be tied to bad programming and security flaws. Granted that those two things have existed since PCs have been around but the old DOS days had a much better track record w/ flaws in the OS, bugs in the software, and open security holes versus today w/ bloated OpSystems and sometimes incredibly buggy programming and more open security holes than ever. True we are doing much more w/ them but I am convinced better programming as well as better software QA and no real "rush to market" deadline would result in much better views on the OS and software in general.

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New features invite new exploits

by GreenPirogue In reply to Old tech vs. new tech

Codfieri: Interesting point, but I would like to make an analogy. DOS was like a house with no windows and one door. All you had to do is deadbolt the door and you were safe. Windows is like a bigger house which has more rooms, more doors, windows and sliding glass doors out back. The trouble is that the architect (MS) has spent more time adding on than ensuring that the new additions (features) are secure.

I prefer MacOS but I exclusively use Windows at work. There are problems with the OS, but I griped about Mac OS 9 not having true multi-threading. Its all about give and take, and some of us are concerned about security, more so now that there are so many other threats out there.

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Shoot the messenger...

by f-4076287 In reply to New features invite new e ...

Is what people do when they blame MS for what hackers do to it.

Techs shoot the messenger and bit the hand when they blame users for their problems. Techs would not be working were it not for the user.

MS bashers are little more than men with small penises, or women with small breasts that believe anyone cares they are so ill-equipped.

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nonsense

by Codfieri In reply to Shoot the messenger...

Somehow I doubt physical endowments are the reason for all the MS bashing in the world. Much like die hard Ford fans would never drive a GM car and can do nothing but point out flaws the same goes for MS/Apple/Linux/Unix users. As for our jobs and such...if it weren't tech work we were doing it would be something else so while I am happy w/ what I do I feel like I don't owe MS or any other company anything for the job. Its a job...not a gift.

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not exactly

by apotheon In reply to nonsense

I'm pretty happy with all the major personal computer OSes these days, except Windows. I like MacOS X. I like Linux. I like *BSD. I like where ReactOS is going.

I'm not a fan of Windows the same way a Toyota driver isn't a fan of GM: the fact that Toyota's quality assurance operates on a 100% quality standard, and GM figures it can get away with a 70% quality standard, bodes ill for people being happy with GM quality, particularly if they've gotten used to Toyotas. By the same token, I've gotten used to Linux quality, and I find Windows to be a severe pain in the tuckus these days.

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Criteria, Expertise, Emotions

by f-4076287 In reply to not exactly

I am not a "fan" of my car. I use it to go places. It demands fuel, and maintenance.

Likewise, I use Windows and who knows what else running my cell phone, and stereo, and gps device as a tool. I like to use useful tools, that give me ways to get things done. Windows more than meets that.

If I hit my finger with my hammer, i dont blame the hammer. Blaming Windows is like blaming the hammer, to do that it more reflective of the human and their shortcoming, or ignorance, than anything else.

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on the other hand

by apotheon In reply to not exactly

If I hit a nail with my hammer, and rather than driving the nail the hammer's head splinters and sends shards of metal through my hand, I certainly blame the hammer manufacturer.

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C-Big

by jmgarvin In reply to not exactly

"Likewise, I use Windows and who knows what else running my cell phone, and stereo, and gps device as a tool. I like to use useful tools, that give me ways to get things done. Windows more than meets that."

Your cell phone is probably running some *nix variant as well as your gps device. I have no idea what kind of firmware OS stereos use, but I would assume that if they are proprietary, they are using *nix.

Windows DOES NOT get things done. What it does do is break, become unstable, and crash. ****, I had a great driver issue in Win2k that could NEVER be resolved. Windows doesn't just work, ir requires constant tinkering and tweaking to make it run right.

"If I hit my finger with my hammer, i dont blame the hammer. Blaming Windows is like blaming the hammer, to do that it more reflective of the human and their shortcoming, or ignorance, than anything else."

I blame Windows because Windows isn't a reak hammer...it is a plastic childs toy hammer. It will never pound the nail in and it will only manage to break off into small pieces and choke small children.

As for calling the wetware ignorant and unable, this is patently false in this forum. Perhaps your average user might have trouble, but those of us in these forums are quite apt with technology and are able to see OSs for what they are worth.

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