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Wikileaks and DDoS attacks - some thoughts

By Deadly Ernest ·
I was just reading a CNET article about Wikileaks and it mentions some recent DDoS attacks against Wikileaks. This got me thinking.

Most DDoS attacks are organised by bad guys to cause trouble for companies for financial gain or by hackers who are picking on particular companies that upset them. The only people Wikileaks have upset lately are certain US government bureaucrats and politicians due to them making available documents leaked to them from within the US bureaucracy. It seems the US government can't stop their people doing the leaking, hmm a good story back there somewhere, so they're trying to stop them being made public by a non US citizen on a non US web site.

Now, all of a sudden, Wikileaks is being hit with DDoS attacks. It does make me wonder who is organising them as Wikileaks is NOT the sort of organisation the usual organisers of DDoS attacks will hit. The circumstances makes me wonder if this is a black CIA operation or something similar organised by a US government Agency. If that is so, it then raises the question of this being the first one they've done, or not.

I don't know any answers to these issues, but sure would like to know.

On a related issue, I do find it interesting that certain people in the US power structure aren't upset about the dirty linen these cables represent, but are upset that their dirty linen is being made public. In short, doing bad things is OK as long as they don't get caught and they seek to punish those who publicise the nasty work and not those who did the dirty deeds.

What are your thoughts?

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I was using JamesRL's words as the reply was to him NT

by The 'G-Man.' In reply to They deliberately murdere ...
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What you think and what you can prove

by JamesRL In reply to They deliberately murdere ...

Murder involves intent. The official reports say the pilot thought the guy with the camera had a rocket launcher. Murder would have to be if he knew it wasn't a rocket launcher. Negligent homicide would be if he didn't look hard enough. Certainly to me, as a photographer, I immediately identified the guy on the footage as a guy with a camera.

Truth is that unless you are psychic you and I won't ever know the truth, and even a board of inquiry might not find the truth.

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Reminds me of a story from Yuogoslavia...

by AnsuGisalas In reply to I don't know how much of ...

Pal of a pal was leading a column of danish leopard 1 tanks along a road (part of the danish plan to immediately and heavily retaliate to all the militias who liked to shoot a little at UN convoys - "Operation bullybeating")...
Then he gets a warning from command that a US apache combat helicopter has spotted a column of t-52s in their area.

There were no damn t-52's and luckily for my pal's pal, the apache crew didn't have permission to engage on their own.

And a leopard 1 doesn't look like a t-52.

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I'd agree with that assessment

by JamesRL In reply to Reminds me of a story fro ...

My father in law was involved with Canada's purchase of Leopard 1s for Canada, from the Army's side. Later he went on to work for the manufacturer. A Leopard doesn't look at all like any Russian tank of that era.

Sadly we had a similar incident in Afghanistan that didn't work out so well.

A group of Canadian soldiers went to a firing range that was used by all NATO forces, including Americans. The commanders in the area had been briefed the range would be in use that night. The Canadians were practising with small amrms, including light machine guns with tracers. A pair of F16s were orbiting at 23,000 feet, flown by some National Guardsmen. One of them spotted the tracers, and reported they were being fired on. They were denied permission to retaliate, but did anyway. Four Canadians killed, eight were injured.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarnak_Farm_incident

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Dum_fu_ks

by AnsuGisalas In reply to I'd agree with that asses ...

No other word for that kind of people.
Not taking one's job seriously is always bad, but if that job is other people's life and death... well, it's bad.

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One mitigating factor

by JamesRL In reply to Dum_fu_ks

The National Guard pilots had been given "uppers" by their doctors. It may have clouded their judgement.

Still, in my opinion, there is no way that someone at 23,000 feet should feel threatened by a machine gun, the effective range of a .50 calibre MG is about 6000 feet. So there should have been no bomb drop without direction of the controllers.

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No-one

by AnsuGisalas In reply to Dum_fu_ks

should be in a plane while on uppers!
Not even in an engineless glider... let alone a fighter plane!

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The hacktivist 'Jester' is the one who has been harassing wikileaks

by robo_dev In reply to Wikileaks and DDoS attack ...

https://www.infosecisland.com/blogview/9865-The-Jester-Hits-WikiLeaks-Site-With-XerXeS-DoS-Attack.html

He's an American who believes that WikiLeaks is putting US lives in danger.

A DDOS attack is easy to trace, somewhat amateurish, and only partly effective.

My opinion of Assange has changed 180 degrees. Posting the truth about the helicopter gunner shooting the reporters was heroic, trying to stop the war by posting the ugly details was noble, but just dumping all the world's secret communications crosses the line to being irresponsible.

There is power in having access to knowledge, but with this power comes a certain amount of responsibility.

There's lots of 'dirty laundry' out there in the world. You can use the sight and the smell of that mess to get something done, to expose a criminal, to help stop a war, or to raise public awareness of an issue.

Or you can just dump the dirty laundry in the middle of the street so everybody goes 'whew, that's some dirty laundry'.

But at the end of the day, it just means that going forward, those who keep secrets will use stronger encryption, access to secret networks will be locked down tighter, and soldiers carrying Lady Gaga CDs from a secure computing area will be subject to TSA-like screening.

I believe Assange is an egotistical bas_ard with a general dislike for the US, not some hero out to save the world. Of course that's my opinion, I could be wrong.

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He comes across as a bit of a nutter at times.

by seanferd In reply to The hacktivist 'Jester' ...

I'm not sure what to think of Assange at all.

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On the face of it

by NickNielsen In reply to He comes across as a bit ...

He appears to think his purpose is to 'enlighten' the world.

His chosen manner leaves something to be desired...

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