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Win98 - Phantom Bad Sectors

By redshift ·
I ghosted a Win98 2gig partition to a 6gig HDD and stuck it into a different PC. It seemed to run fine as I loaded drivers and went through several reboots. Then, suddenly, I'm loading the 3c905b drivers for the 3c905b NIC, and I get a blue screensaying that it can't write to C:, and freezes. On reboot,it comes up and says that there may be a bad sector on C and wants to run scandisk. Scandisk, Norton Disk Doctor, Troubleshooter, and Spinrite find no problems with the HDD. The system actsfine except for this error on bootup that occurs just after Win.exe is executed. Is there some sort of flag that I can delete that will prevent this from happening if there in nothing wrong with the HDD?

I've repeated the ghost-load drivers-failprocess twice with the same results - it crashes on loading the 3c905b drivers. Although I removed the drivers, and even the NIC, it still gives me the error.

thanx!

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by fiction12 In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

I am sorry but I have to recommend a clean install of Win98. Even if you work out the current problems you may still have some that will pop up latter. You could always edit the registry by hand to remove the old hardware, but it is much more reliable to do a clean install.

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by redshift In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

Hate to admit it, but this is waht I had to do to get rid of the flaky behaviours. Thanks!

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by BillyGilbreath In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

You have received several very good posts related to your question, however, none answer the question directly. The direct answer is YES! This issue is addressed at length at:
support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q152/4/04.asp

Due to the thousand-character limit on posts to this forum, I am not able to post the entire text but the article describes exactly which flag is used and how to use it. If you simply want to turn off the scan on boot, this excerpted procedure will do the job:

To modify this default behavior, the following new settings have been defined for the [Options] section of the Msdos.sys file:

AUTOSCAN=0
This turns the new feature off completely. The kernel does not check the Clean Shutdown and Hard Disk Error bits, and ScanDisk is not started.

Though this may not be the ultimate solution, it is the direct answer to "...prevent this from happening if there in nothing wrong with the HDD?"

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by redshift In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

Kewl, this is part of what I'm looking for - I can turn off the startup error now! This is the answer I was looking for, but not the answer I needed - see proposed answer 6

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by RSchklar In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

I agree with toupao.chieng@achemists.com that there is probably nothing wong with the HDD. Ghosting is ideally hardware-specific. It works best when replicating the ghosted image to exactly the same hardware configuration from machine to machine.Before applying the remedy, make sure you have current drivers for your hardware devices, modem, monitor, etc. if different from the choices presented by Windows during hardware detection. Reboot in Safe Mode and remove all hardware listed in Device Manager. Now power-down the machine, then reboot. The cold boot (power-down) is necessary anytime you make significant changes to the hardware configuration so that the system level setup files are executed. As the operating system (Windows) sets up, it will detect each of your hardware devices. Once your hardware is recognized and drivers installed, I suspect all will be right again within your computer.

Raymond Schklar

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by redshift In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

Ummm, thanks for your trouble, but that was already suggested. Thanks anyway!

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by jun1cez1 In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

Your problem is that you had ghosted a system configuration from one computer and use that configuration on another system. Its just not gonna work.
It may be necessary for you to go to MSINFO or the so called System Information, run a system diagnostic and delete any flags in the Win.ini section and system.ini section that relates to the other configuration that you had ghosted especially driverwise. About the NIC driver, you must had ghosted a system that had a NIC driver installed and then suddenly using a different one or installing a different one and the system could'nt determine which one to use or to be used.
Your best solution, do a clean install, from scratch.

Jun

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by redshift In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

Unfortunately, I'd run out of points if I gave everyone with correct answers points. Proposed answer #6 got it.

Thanks anyway!

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by m42 In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

Hi there !

It seems you've got caught in the "Easiest way of Moving Windows" trap :-)

Two things you might try :
- First, as someone else suggested, start in "Safe Mode", remove ALL your drivers (including all the "System devices") and restart. Hopefully WIndows will identify the new resources and reinstall the drivers correctly.
- Second, you might try to resize your partition to the 2Gb size, reboot, scandisk, resize again to 6Gb, reboot, scandisk and see if error still there.

Anyway you MUST update at least the HDD driver, or Windows assumes you have a "Brand1 2Gb HDD" when you got a "Brand2 6Gb HDD"...

Good Luck

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by redshift In reply to Win98 - Phantom Bad Secto ...

True, true, but a lot of trouble.
Unfortunately, I'd run out of points if I gave everyone with correct answers points. Proposed answer #6 got it.

Thanks anyway!

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