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Windows 64 bit OS issue...

By user223 ·
To cut to the chase...
I am trying to get a 64bit OS (ANY of them) to load up on my Compaq Presario S6900nx system. It's equiped w/ AMD Athlon 64 3200+ chip.
When I boot from any of the MS 64 bit versions of OS, I get "no 64 bit System detected" or something along those lines.
Compaq support is every bit as useless as you'd expect regarding this. They parrot the same thing to any question asked...yes, your system will run a 64 bit OS, no Compaq does not support this at this time. Microsoft support points you back to Compaq and vice versa...
Anyone have any ideas on how I can get this to load up?
Want to apologize for the quad post, I didn't get any feedback from the submit button. This is my first post to discussions, so put me in the newb catagory...

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hardware support lag

by apotheon In reply to 100% Correct

FreeBSD tends to lag behind Linux for new hardware support. There are Linux distros that absolutely kick butt with AMD 64b chips and attendant hardware.

In fact, Debian was the first OS to offer a full/pure 64b release for the AMD 64b processors, if I recall correctly.

Of course, I still haven't gotten a 64b processor for my own use. I'm sure I will eventually.

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You don't mean that they are selling that thing yet

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to Forget Windows for 64 bit ...

The copy that I got was a give away from MS as a trial copy of the 64 Bit Version of XP as well as a 64 Bit version of 2003ES and both came with warnings that there are no where enough drivers for the things to work properly and most of the available software would not work reliably on it either. The 203 ES works quite nicely as a file server or a mail server if you stick to the 64 Bit applications but mostly they are only good for Gateway applications to the Internet at this point in time.

While AMD has had 64 Bit CPU's around for quite some time as well as Intel on their high end Commercial CPU's I've yet to see any real Windows applications available for what I still thought was a development platform.

Linux on the other hand has quite a few 64 Bit versions available and I'm currently running Debian 64 without a problem. Seems that MS is waiting until the Open Source Crowd has things working properly and then they'll steal the code to incorporate into their products.

Isn't that what MS does best?

Col ]:)

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by user223 In reply to You don't mean that they ...

I have zero background in Linux...64 bit or otherwise...and while i do drink the Microsoft koolaid, I would like to learn more about Linux. What flavor would you recommend for a newb that would give me a solid foundation for the other versions?

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For Starters

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to

Knoppix has a 64 Bit Live Version that boots from a CD and will not only read your existing NTFS or FAT file systems but has most of what you would need.

If nothing else it's a good testing unit for hardware to see if it supports 64 Bit OS's it just boots off the CD. While you may need to alter your Boot sequence around this isn't a big deal and it's worth while if only to test the hardware particularly if you are looking at buying, there is nothing that shuts up a sales person like proving that what they are telling you is incorrect.

Something like Knoppix allows you to keep your Windows Partitions and run Linux on the computer but because it's all on 1 CD it has it's limits as well. However it's a good starting point.


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Depends on waht you want

by Deadly Ernest In reply to

Recently I have tried Mandrake 10, Fedora Core 4 and Ubuntu 5.10 - Mandrake is more for the "I am tech and want to play techie" type while FC 4 is more "I am a user and know no tech" type and Ubuntu is a bit more techie than FC 4 - other flavours have different goals as well.

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solid foundation

by apotheon In reply to

I recommend getting a Knoppix LiveCD and doing a Debian-style install when you're ready to commit a computer to Linux from the Knoppix CD. Debian gives you a very vanilla, standards-compliant Linux operating system environment, along with very slick software management, comprehensive manpage documentation, and the largest and most well-tested (meaning: stable) software archives available for Linux. Knoppix gives the most newbie-friendly introduction to standard Debian systems.

RHEL/Fedora, SuSE, Mandriva, Linspire, Xandros, Ubuntu, and piles of others all have very nonstandard quirks that won't give you as solid a voundation for working with many different distributions. Slackware and Gentoo don't give you the same benefits for a newbie introduction to Linux, and Gentoo also fails to provide as much of a standard basis for Linux use in general.

Plus, y'know, Debian is where the serious Linux admins end up anyway.

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BIOS Update may be required

by karthigan In reply to Windows 64 bit OS issue.. ...

System BIOS or ROM may need an update. ROM version that is currently in your system may not be enabling 64 bit for the processor/chipset. Please try getting the latest version of the ROM/BIOS from compaq website and then try loading a 64 bit OS.

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check warranty terms

by apotheon In reply to BIOS Update may be requir ...

Make sure that you can get support if a BIOS update doesn't go well. If a BIOS update goes awry and you can't get support afterward, you'll end up with a paperweight for a motherboard. BIOS updates can be scary things sometimes.

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Issues with 64 bit OS

by cyber558 In reply to Windows 64 bit OS issue.. ...

This is just a wild guess (since I have never tried loading a 64-bit OS), but have you tried looking around in the computer's BIOS to see if you have to "enable" the 64-bit part of your processor? If you've already tried this, I appologize - if you haven't, I hope you find something and it works!

Good Luck,

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