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Windows vs Linux

By rkuhn ·
Ok, these discussions are out of hand.

Anytime there is a discussion of Linux vs Windows, without laying down some background, it is almost impossible to have a meaningful discussion.

For example, there are substantial differences between rolling out Linux in a business environment vs rolling it out to a home user with minimal PC skills vs rolling it out to an experienced IT home user.

I'll start 3 threads to reflect this and let me hear the arguments.

For example, for a inexperienced home user, I don't want to hear about "cheap" printers when it comes to drivers. Let's face it, home users buy cheap printers...that's a fact of life.

Conversely, in a business environment, you do have time, money, etc for a roll out whereas in a home environment, you don't.

Let's agree to some variables. Corporate environments typically have time to train, get support, tweak, whatever.

Home users typically just want things to work, buy cheaper and more generic components, etc.

Let's hear your opinions now...

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Ok...Post your bug

by jmgarvin In reply to Typical Responce

When did you get the error? What happened during install to make this error occur? Did the install fail?

You bring up an error, but you don't explain when or where this error occured. Not very helpful.

Also, your generic cut and paste responces are pretty silly.

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by rkuhn In reply to Ok...Post your bug

Apparently, the first time I downloaded the .iso something went wrong.

Downloaded the .iso from a different source today and all went well.

Except not impressed yet. Installed Ubantu and ran 50 updates. Nothing more.

16 seconds to open OpenOffice programs vs 2-3 Microsoft Office on XP. Identical system configs only differnet OSes.

7 seconds to open Firefox vs 2 seconds to open IE.

Ok, Ok, before you start slandering me again, I'm a Linux newbie...just describing my first impressions.

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by FCometa In reply to Fixed

Good for you!!!

It will take a while for you to get used to not living with Windows. But you'll get the hang of it, you'll see.

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by rkuhn In reply to

So why are these programs, like OpenOffice and such, taking so long to open?

Installed Ubantu on a HP Pentium IV 2.53Ghz with 256 RAM. Ok, it's not the greatest PC in the world but it should be fairly zippy.

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new start

by lalala In reply to

just as when you were a windows newbie, you didn't know how to do everything, you can't expect to know everything about linux now. they're different. time, patience, joy.

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Kernel Tuning

by X-MarCap In reply to

You may find that by adjusting the kernel parameters you may be able to speed up the box considerably...


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Descriptive program names and quick responses.

by CharlieSpencer In reply to Typical Responce

What Windows apps do you think have descriptive program names?

Excel? I think that's a verb indicating a performance level; nothing to do with numbers.

Powerpoint? A made-up name; maybe the "point" part relates to presentations.

Access? The privilege or ability to gain entry; nothing to do with databases.

FrontPage? Sounds like it should be used for newspaper publishing.

Okay, I grant you Word and Money.

I can agree with you 100% on the "choice is confusing" issue. And I do find sometimes the first answer provided doesn't address my question. But responding negatively to the first answer discourages subsequent readers from attempting to help you. If you don't like the first answer, ignore it and wait for someone else to respond.

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Use CD-RWs, no more coasters, no more tears

by stress junkie In reply to Typical Responce

When it comes to Linux distros or any software that you want to try out I always use rewritable media. That way I don't throw dozens of disks in the trash. I just reuse them.

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My Point exactly.

by TerryRu045 In reply to Typical Responce

People mention that one of Linux's great strengths is the options you have ( Same goes for Java). For example, several readers have mentioned different version implying they are better then the others etc, etc. For skilled enthusiasts like ourselves that is a good thing, but is it really a plus in the real, working world(where companies our trying to make money somehow)?

I'd be the first too admit that Windows cost more up front, and Linux on the low end, with PHP, MySql, Apache, ect is very appealing, but Windows starts to make more sense with larger corporations, where its integration of Sharepoint, Office, and .NET can be extremely powerful.

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oh really

by apotheon In reply to My Point exactly.

"its integration of Sharepoint, Office, and .NET can be extremely powerful"
So you say.

Such vague, largely meaningless uses of the word "powerful" always get on my nerves. It means nothing except, possibly, that you've read some advertising literature and don't recall the more euphonous terms used by advertisers, replacing them with "powerful". Do me a favor, please: tell me exactly what you mean by "powerful" in this context.

While you're at it, perhaps you can tell me what "integration of Sharepoint, Office, and .NET" provides that cannot be had with Linux, and how that overrides all the myriad benefits of using a more secure, more stable, more universally compatible, more standardized, more flexible, and much cheaper platform can provide in the enterprise. Please. I beg you. Give some kind of meaningful argument.

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