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by chrisms
When you say clean, do you mean no info on them or are you thinking healthcare.
If the first option, I would run F-Disk on the disks in question, delete all partitions and leave them.
If the second, I don't believe hard disks are disastrous to health when disposed of.
You could also try a hammer, this makes them totally unreadable.!
by generalist
There is, I believe, a special formatting that you can use that repeatedly writes 'zeroes' to the hard drive as part of a 'hide the data' approach. This might work out.
If you are disposing of them in a way that you don't want them to be used atall, do a special format and soak them in warm saline solution for a few days. That might cause enough corrosion to make them unreadable without a lot of extra special work.
I'm hoping that your definition of 'scrap hopper' includes recycling the rest of the parts if these hard drives are part of obsolete PCs. There are groups out there that wouldn't mind having a functional PC, even if it were a 486 or worse.
by thenetworker
Actually, One of the Norton utilities packages has a program that does that, it is actually DOD certified. It writes all ones, then all zeroes, then ones, something like 4 times.
It's a little bit of overkill though. You could run a low level format on the drive, using the utility provided by the hard drive manufacturer. Although to be honest, if they are being thrown away, I say a hammer is the most cost effective method. The cost and technology that is required to get data from a drive damaged in this manner is insane.
by shanghai sam
it can be some extra work to debug each disk but it does write over all information on the disk.
boot from a disk with the debug.exe program on it.
(type) A:\debug (press enter)
(type) f200 l1000 0 (press enter)
XXXX:XXXX mov ax,301 (press enter)
XXXX:XXXX mov bx,200 (press enter)
XXXX:XXXX mov cx,1 (press enter)
XXXX:XXXX mov dx,80 (press enter)
XXXX:XXXX int 13 (press enter)
XXXX:XXXX int 20 (press enter)
XXXX:XXXX (press enter)
(type) g (press enter)
"PROGRAM TERMINATED NORMALLY"(you should see this message)
(type)Q (press enter)
and your back to A:
the XXXX:XXXX is generated by the drive geometry, so they will change with the drives.
also, in the 6th line (dx,80)
80=Primary Master 81=Primary Slave
82=Secondary Master
83=Secondary Slave
there is some info about each line. if anyone wants that or if you have a question just e-mail me.
by eugenew.
by shanghai sam
Symantec Norton Ghost V6+ has utility called Gdisk.
More information on Eraser:
http://www.tolvanen.com/eraser/
Secure Deletion of Data from Magnetic and Solid-State Memory
http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/sec96/full_papers/gutmann/
by security_guy
Yeah, a strong degausser or electromagnet works very well and is what I'd suggest.
The destruction method by target practice is a nice touch (being in the military, I've been known to use explosives for our classified systems, but I don't recommend it for everything, especially with EPA issues). Letting a shooter use them is also a good test for their bullet loads (safety disclaimer here) and would keep them happy.
Using fdisk or any other partitioning utility will not "clean" a hard drive. They usually only write to a very small percentage of the drive, mostly in the first sectors. Any data in the rest of the drive could be easily recovered with the right software.
Formatting does write more to the drive than a partitioning utility, but still a relatively small portion of the drive.
A single overwrite of the drive with zeros, or ones, or random data would prevent software recovery of data. I heard of asoftware proposal which may be able to get some, but I don't recall seeing anything like it available. Multiple overwrites with varying patterns could prevent casual labratory attempts to recover the data, but highly sophisticated attempts could recover data. There are some products designed to perform the 35 overwrites in Guttmann's procedure referenced in another post. That paper also describes both overwriting and degaussing. In computer time that paper is old and newer drive technologies could be more problematic for erasing data.
Physical destruction is the best possible method, you just have to be sure the drive platters themselves are rendered unreadable.
You have to assess the value of the data and how much somebody would be willing to spend on recovering that data.
East-tec disk sanitizer,jetico bcwipe,and norton wipedisk are some software able to do multiple overwrites. Disk sanitizer can do the Guttmann 35 pass procedure.
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