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Contracting - how do you feel about it?

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I live in a high tech city. I think most job offers are contract-to-perm, then contract jobs are second, then full time positions are last. This comes from 8 years of living here. I would say that contract jobs last in the range of 3 to 9 months, generally. One clear advantage is the experience and pay, however, unless one is qualified to remain in this nitch, one does not have the security a full-time job has.

My take is that, with contract jobs, you retain your independence, however it can get lonely. Contract-To-Hire as a balance of the two.

But My question is, what do you all prefer and why. Thanks!

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by j.lupo

Ok, I have done all of these. The trend in our outsourcing global economy is to try before you buy. However, I prefer the FTE route. First, contractors have find a way to keep themselves up to speed on IT, programming, whatever area they want to work into. They are usually brought in for specific staff augmentation projects and then let go after that is completed. In addition, at least in my experience, very rarely are contractors used on the "interesting and new" technology work. We usually get a lot of legacy work. So our skills can atrophe pretty quickly.

As an FTE, we can grow with the company, learn a particular business and really find our own niche in that industry. We learn what our competitors are doing and can really make a difference.

As a consultant, we get probably the best and worst of both contracting and FTE. There is a subtle difference between consultants and contractors. Usually consultants are not staff augmentation, they are senior people who help get the project done on time and in budge. They know how to work at all levels of an organization, with vendors, etc. Consultants get a lot of money but have already earned their knowledge and know how to market themselves effectively.

At least this is my opinion. Of course there are exceptions to every rule, so....

by zlitocook

And I have been a contractor for five years or so. I have been a self contractor; I found contract jobs on my own. They pay great ($45 to $150 an hour) but you do not get benefits, you should be bonded and there is no one to fall back on. Working for a contracting company cuts deep in to the pay and there is no benefits unless you want to pay a hefty sum out of your pay check.
On the plus side it gives you great experience and you get to meet allot of good/bad people. This gives you a nose for how to deal with people and how to tell what a company wants from its IT people.
I found that if you do not specialize in one thing I can get more job offers. But specialization can pat too if you find the right field.
Yes a company can save money if they go over sea's but they loose the chance to get people who already know how our business?s work, know how we think, know how we work and we speak good English/ sort of :) And with on site IT people the users do not have to wait for along time just to talk to a real person.
Dell has learned a hard lessen because of over sea's out sourcing. They have opened a help desk here and are hiring a ton of people.
I have always kept up with new technology and I keep my resume as a generalist because most companies want some one who can do many things and will not balk at learning something else.

by silvergreen

zlito, could I ask you... I have only self contracted once and my billing cycle was weekly or bi-weekly (don't remember exactly). I didn't want to put in too much effort and risk the possibility of not getting paid rightfully, or maybe I was too paranoid. What size companies do you contract out to? Also, how often do you bill your clients?

by zlitocook

Now, but I had contracted to two small business and one large. One of the small ones only had three full time people and four part time; I billed them once a month. Buy I had a contract made by a lawyer so it was binding. The other small company had fifty people and two were power users so I could call one of them and walk them through allot of things. The first company I charged $45 the second $60.
The large company had three locations and was seasonal so at times they had over 150 people and other time 60 or so. I charged them a sliding scale depending on what I had to do and how long.
The larger companies I billed weekly.

by jaqui

on what you want out of your career.

The two pros for contracting are fairly obvious, you are your own boss, and you are frequently covering new ground.
[ walking into a new office, having to work with new people / procedures, even occasionally working with cutting edge technology ]

the cons are fairly obvious as well, the biggest being no income security.

If having that regular paycheque is important, then don't do contract work.

If you would rather have the challenge of constant change, then go for contracting.
mixing the two is very hard, since scheduling conflicts can all to easily arise.
It is possible to work part time, or even full time and do contract work as well. Easier for full time if you can have an odd schedule, like 4 10 hour days.

I do both regular and contract, for contract work I often vary the rate for the company, a smaller company that doesn't have the same resources I quote lower rates to.

by slaatyrs

I am not a fan of contracting. I contract only to fill in until I get a permanent position. If you want stability, well...relative stability in today's economy, go for FTE. As a contractor, you are not considered a "member of the family" so to speak, your opinions are not as valued as a FTE, and the project you are contracted to work on could end at any given time. You are generally relegatied to the 'legacy" system conversions or grunt work. The FTE's are given the opportunity to learn/work on new technology. This is understandable since they are the ones that will be around a lot longer than you. Also, as a contractor, it is not easy to move into a different position or higher paying position because you are contrated to work at a certain level, even if you do have the same or better qualifications than the employee.
But, contracting does sometimes has its positives, I am sure someone else has a list of them to share. Just my opinion...

by onbliss

I am an employee (a.k.a Staff Consultant) of a consulting company, who is sent out for contracting positions. I get the usual benefits - health and dental, vacations, holidays and even get paid on the Bench. My company and I survived the bubble-burst.

So with that element of security in place, I like the various contracts that my company sends me out to. With some degree of experience and loyalty :-), I even have the privilege to refuse contracts which I do not like.

The company has a very small annual allowance, that can be used for buying books and training. Most of the training costs are well above this allowance, but I am happy to buy books and learn.

Also, I have been placed in projects where I was able to learn new technologies. The contracts vary from few weeks to few years. Sometimes we get repeat orders too.

I like to work on different projects and so far this arrangement has kept me financially and non-financially content.

by onbliss

Though I was able to movie into newer technologies, (thanks to clients), it was not easy though.

It is harder to get/switch into roles with more responsibilities than just programming. For instance being a Team Lead or an Architect. Usually the clients already have a FTE in those kind of roles. Ofcourse I was able to fill an Architect role once. But that was when there was a Blue Moon in the sky :-)

So if one wants to pursue roles that have responsibilities in addition to programming, it can get little tough.

by tig2

I can't say that I particularly like it. When my last contract ended, I decided to start looking for an FTE slot. My primary reason is benefits. Most contract firms don't offer them at all or they are way too expensive.

My next choice will be contract to hire. That also has a downside- there is no obligation to hire you, just a possibility.

Whatever you do, consider what your basic job functions are. There are things that cannot be effectively outsourced- those job areas should be your focus.

by too old for it

And especially stay away from the contract firms, consulting companies and "staff aug" body shops. And I say that having mostly contracted, through no special desire on my part, since 2001.

You have to remember that Contract Nation is that symbiotic though psychopathic relationship between knowledge workers who think they can earn more while working less and companies who are convinced that world class quality and absolute best practices can be accomplished by a disposable workforce. Neither is ever entirely true. And only through the potential and practice of long-term employment does either party truly succeed.

I am a conscript, rather than a volunteer, in Contract Nation, and look forward to retiring from same to a permanent position soon. Preferably with a company that can write and place a help-wanted ad, read a r?sum?, conduct an interview, and make an offer.

by j.lupo

Wholeheartedly agree. For those that enjoy contracting and feel rewarded by it - more power to you. For myself, the only truly happy time "working" was when I was an FTE. I too entered the contract nation without wanting it. I found later that companies don't really want contractors for FTE's later. I haven't figured out why except possiblity the perceived perception of contractors.

I have much to offer an organization that wants an FTE that has learned what is important and what is not.

by jamesrl

I've been an FTE most of my life but had one stretch as a contractor and another as an hourly consultant.

Personally, because my wife is unable to work, I prefer the stability of FTE. But I have friends who are the sole support of their family who are happy to be contractors. They have more in demand skills than me and have done very well financially because of it. They never want to be management, and feel their tech skills are better compensated for in the contracting world.

I was paid better as a contractor than my current managerial job. But with a mortgage and kids I dont think the choice is there.

James

by she geek

I've done it all... and made much more money as an consultant, had a lot more free time and got exposed to the latest greatest technologies, but I have to agree with JamesRL... being a single mom if 3.. I need an income I can count on 52 weeks a year.

by willjamr

I'm an employee of a contract firm. I've been working the same contract for over 4 years. That's longer than my previous position which was as an FTE.

Working is *so* much better than unemployment.

by the admiral

I was personally sick of contracting, especially when you work for a staffing augmentation firm that in order to make their profit look better when it came to the augmentation, they would cut your pay by 5-10% every year.

I got fed up with it and send them a letter asking for a 35% raise in order to keep up with the cost of living (13% increase) and what I lost in the previous three years 22%. They said no since that is not showing loyalty to the company so I told them bu-bye and went with working for myself.

Contracting is not a bad position to be in if you are working for yourself, but if you are doing it for a pimping agency, just remember, they take 52% of your pay and you get the shaft.

by bigbigboss

Let us face it, permanent jobs will not be as numerous as in the past. Contract jobs will become a norm, not an exception.

Employers are getting smarter. That is why. With permanent jobs and severance pay, plus may be benefits, it is very expensive to hire someone permanently, especiall if you are not sure whether the job will actually be permanent, or your company may change business in the future.

With all the merges and acquisitions going on, and constant technology changes, the person you hire today may not be functional in your company in any capacity with his current pay grade in two years. You must keep your workforce flexible and adaptable. Not too many employees can do that, with any amount of education and training. (Training don't make you feel comfortable moving from the East coast to the West coast with your spouse having a job with some other company.) The way to do that is to change the people in your team. Contracting is a reasonable way to do that.

by cmh_datec

Having been in IT for 25+ years now, groan groan, I've done most flavours of work. There's good and bad in everything. I must admit that contracting still just nudges ahead tho'. Reason. All FTE jobs I've had, (bar one), the companies have expected more than blood for their money. 7 days a week regularly, long hours, mediocre pay, no training and no thank you kiss my a.se etc. I remember clearly having to take my eldest at 1yr old into work on weekends. (Thank God for Mag tapes, wonderful toy.)The company then 'pouts' when you request pay rises and of course they hate it if you want to take a holiday for longer than one week at a stretch. Then you feel bad because of course you feel a loyalty to the company.
With contracting I never had this. I had a job to do, they respected my experience, they paid nicely for it, I performed it 110%, and they thanked me profusely at the end.
There was only one contract that was a problem, but that revolved around it being in the islands and getting my goddam money out of them.

Sitting on the other side of the fence as an employer, I've noticed big changes. The grads I take on now, in general, have a bad attitude/work ethic. They think the world owes them something, they work the minimum hours all the time and the standard is definitely not good.
In my latest project as an example, a grad with one years experience did 4 times less work than an experienced contractor on the same team. The contractor DID NOT get 4 times the pay that's for sure. And no matter how much the contractor tried to help/teach the grad, it just wasn't going to happen. Bad attitude. I'm not saying ALL young grads are this bad, but over the last 5 years I can confidently say it is more than half of them. My 20 yr old is just as bad. I asked him why this attitude is so common and he replied that "just enough is good enough" & "why should we bust a gut" & "work ain't going to control MY life"!!!
Maybe he has a point. Why SHOULD we bust a gut. I know a lot of people are in IT because they have a passion for it, but there are a good many of us who aren't. I only took it up because Ma and Pa couldn't afford to send me to medical school, so I looked in the paper and saw that computing was a 'new thing' (back in the 70's) and paid good money and I went from there. In reality, I have busted a gut, helped many companies realise profits and succeed, with little thanks and probably to the detriment of my family. So maybe the young ones are right.

So, after all that, if IT is your passion, take jobs where you can explore and expand that passion. If you do it for other reasons, go for the best money that will let you live a life that doesn't revolve around work. Think of number one first. :)
Wish someone had told ME 20 years ago!

by silvergreen

chenderson, glad you chimmed in. I respect everyones views on this topic. However, I am in line with your sentiments. The big issue surrounding my concern about contracting is, how long will the IT market provide suffifient contracting positions? Severl people have mentioned here and else where that FT employers are weirry hiring people with a long historing of contracting. If the contracting market dies out, those capable folks will have the short end of the stick. Thoughts?

by too old for it

With attitudes as expressed by bigboss, no wonder you can't get kids to go to school for engineering and the hard sciences any more.

American companies will have to commit to the American middle class by employing FTE's in quantity, or they risk a bottom of the barrell disposible workforce, equally skilled at serving burgers and running the data center.

by x-marcap

From a descending colon...

Companies overwork salaried people. I have seen that the work load increases and the staff dwindles. Salaried people end up working 60+ hours in a week with oncall duties, and the situation gets them meagerly rewarded.

Companies no longer train technical people well. They send managers to technical training, who do no technical work... You seem to be the kind of manager who is worth abandoning.

by too old for it

Taking home work after hours and a lptop so you can work all night or all weekend if you have to.

That is until someone walks off with the laptop and 26 million names, addresses, ssn's ...

by cmh_datec

I don't think contracting will ever die out. Not in Oz anyhow. It seems to behave the same as everything else. That is, it goes through phases. Depending on your age you may have seen the situation of outsourcing in government. First they all seem to get this great (OLD) idea that outsourcing is good. So they shunt everything to external providers. Approximately 5-7 years later some bright spark says, hey, we can do this better and cheaper inhouse. So they bring it all back inhouse again. I've seen this cycle 3 times in my career.
Contracting behaves the same way. So even though there are periods where it is harder to get a nice contract, it isn't long before it all picks up again.
As an employer, and all things seeming equal, I would take on a die hard contractor in preference to someone newly contracting. New contractors take a time to season and drop the FTE behaviour. The experienced ones in general get their butts in here, understand first time what is expected, they keep me informed of what's happening, they understand clients very well and produce work quickly and usually of high quality.
There have been some dubious ones but they get moved on quickly.
Upskilling is a major drama when you're a contractor though. It takes time (with no income) and it costs money. The way I worked around this was to go permanent every now and then for a couple of years and get some more training etc. Sneaky, but it works.
A good contractor is worth their weight in gold. There will always be work for good contractors but sometimes you have to take mediocre contracts, that are beneath you, until the next gem appears.

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