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I work in the medical industry and due to HIPAA standards, all data on a hard drive must be erased according to government standards. This is fine when the HD can spin. Does anyone have any advice in erasing a HD that can not start? A magnet still leaves a footprint so that is not an option.

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by mrafrohead

Pull out the platters and physically destroy them.

As far as I know for a HD that won't work, that's the only way. Unless you have a HD Shredder...

Mrafrohead

by sullyman

Would a commercial electro-magnet eraser not work as well? We used to have one in one of the secure gov't offices I once worked in.

by clearsmashdrop

Is it possible to physcially smash it up? Then throw it away? I heard of one similar case for a city Police Dept. They took the drive down to the range, and asked a cop to put a bullet through it. :-) Do not know if that is true or urban legend.

by thechas

I fully agree with dis-assembling a dead hard drive with any critical data on it.

To assure that any data can not be recovered, you can melt down the platters.

Just take the drive to any local repair shop that has an Acetylene torch, and watchas they melt down the drive for you.
If you don't need to do this often, the shop may even do it for free just for the fun of destroying some hardware.

It's possible that your auto-clave may reach a temperature that would "reset" the magnetic properties of the platters.

Chas

by admin

My Grandfather used to swear that you could pour it down the cylinders of a piece of little used farm equipment that wouldn't turn over, come back later and turn it over, flush it out and start the motor again.

I always prefered Marvel Mystery Oil, especially on the laying it down for a long winter nap side instead of the wait till it don't turn over side.... but then, I didn't keep things running in the Great Depression either (he enjoyed pointing this out)!

It's funny, but indirectly I learned a lot of grass roots mechanical skills from Depression era ideas, although so far I've never tried the unsticking the rings with Coca-Cola trick.

by tomsal

If you tried a magnet and its still leaving recoverable data you are using a wimpy magnet.

But the solution is simple -- as mentioned by others I vote for physical destruction. This is my preferred method when I absolutely, positively must get the data to a point of zero recoverability. This can also be theraputic (added bonus) -- sledge hammers or once a fellow IT manager of mine, employed by another company acually blew a HD up with two M-80's in his back yard... lol. But the most "professional" means of destroying a hard drive is probably what I was taught years ago -- drill it. We drill holes clean through the platters then a blow torch (if we want to add the fun factor) gets applied to the controller card.

Just be safe in your destruction.

later.

by generalist

I seem to recall a magazine article or web site where somebody actually used various types of guns on computer hardware. I don't recall the location, but the photographs were fairly interesting.

by tomsal

I wonder what the old Mossberg 10 gauge, high brass, could do to a HDD? ;)

by thechas

If you use any physical method to destroy an old hard drive, you MUST make sure that the platters are significantly destroyed.

If even 1/2 of a platter is intact, it would be possible for a determined person to recover some data from the platter.

So, if you use an old drive for target practice, make sure that there are several holes in the platters.

Chas

by generalist

I seem to recall hearing that CocaCola can completely dissolve a nail in a remarkably short amount of time. If said comment is true, then soaking the remnants of the drive in CocaCola or related carbonated drink might do the trick.

And if you slowly cooked the resulting mess once the carbonation is gone, getting to the surfaces might require scraping off a lot of sticky goo.

by admin

I should make a HD sized nesting box with a gearhead and single shaft driving it with titanium bits coming out @ 3\8 spacings on each individual gear.

You pop the HD into the end and drill down through the top section of the box and then lift the drill back up.... Voila! Swiss Cheese.

They would cost about 100.00$ to manufacture. Think anyone would buy them?

by thechas

Coke-A-Cola has been known to be a rust remover also.

It is not the carbonation, but the acids in Coke that cause it to destroy metal.

I suspect that the process is a bit too slow for most hard drive platters, as they are not made from iron.
Chas

by hereinoz

Either burn the thing in an industrial incinerator - maybe the local pet crematorium can help - or open the case and apply liberal amounts of Oxy-Acetylene flame to the innards until they are no more.

I know of plenty of people who would love todo this to their old hard drive, particularly if its failure has resulted in the loss of mobs of data.

Does this conform to the standard?

by hal 9000

And no HDD ever leaves our business it's working or not when we dispose of computers we fit new HDD's that arn't even formatted and then dismantle the old ones and destroy the Platters.

If thier IBM Glass Platter drives then these platters smash eaisly but any other one we apply an oxy torch to each indivual platter until the magentic material is burnt off and we do this to each platter of the drive in question. We also dispose of the junk in different means everything but the platters can go into the rubbish and the platters go into the industrial waste different to the same bin as the rest of the drive goes into.

I hope this is of some use to you. And if you need to get the special screw drivers to dismantle the drives then try Snapon as they have a very good range of these tools.

by sharna

Try this. I'm not sure why your hard drive will not spin or for how long it's been in this condition. Once tip that I received from the "Republic" is to remove the hard drive from the computer, place it in a plastic baggie, then put it in the freezer for about 3 hours (the longer the better). After this is done, the drive has a good chance of spinning again and you may be able to re-format the hard drive. Sometimes you may have to do this a couple of times because the disk will have a tendancy to stop spinning as it warms up. As long as it stays cold, it should spin. It would appear to me that right now, you have nothing to lose by trying this. Good luck!

by 5q

I've heard that some memory chips may be "deleted" by frizing - it demagnets them. So will there be data left on the frozen HDD?

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