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by paper_boy558 Accepted solution
by thechas Accepted solution
I perform a clean install of Windows "as needed".
If I update hardware, I am more apt to perform a clean install rather than deal with the driver issues.
Also, if Windows slows down past the point of running acceptably, I will do a clean install.
With the size of external drives, there truly is no excuse to not have enough storage space to back up your drive.
I have started to make Acronis images of drives to make it much quicker to restore.
Chas
by paper_boy558 Accepted solution
by who am i really Accepted solution
because it's a > 60 hour job
and i only do it when absolutely necessary,
which is usually
- when something breaks badly and can't be repaired simply by restoring the image
or
- new machines to get rid of the bloat- crap- sponsor-ware
also I use a locked up & screwed down configuration that disables as much of the unnecessary crap I don't use
eg.
- all user files separated from C:\ which is for OS / Programs only
- recycle bin = disabled / off via config. and group policy
- system restore = disabled / off ^
- user tracking = disabled / off
etc.
which in turn means that a 7 year old install of XP is still performing nearly as good as it did new
and most of the slowdown comes from the AV updates requiring more hardware
and not general usage bloat
eg. McAfee VSE 8.5 doesn't use as much resources as VSE 8.7 does
VSE 8.7 brings a P4 down to a crawl on certain tasks because VSE 8.7 has more components running @ "Process Priority High" than the previous versions
my 2007 XP install on a Core2Duo is just as fast as it was out of the box
with the only slowdown occurring at boot time (approx. 2+ minutes for boot)
whereas a fresh install would boot in less than 30 seconds
however, app performance including opening is the same as day one
eg. Firefox opens in about 3 seconds
mind you, Firefox is configured to store nothing:
- no browsing history
- no DL history
- no cookies
etc.
by oh smeg Accepted solution
But the workhorse systems are set and forget.
Now days whenever I change an OS under some form of Linux is the only time I reformat and that's just to try something different not because it's necessary.
Windows Systems though are painful if you get 18 months out of one you are doing well but even then they get painfully slow and are costing the companies who use them money in wasted time.
I slipstream the Service Packs, Drivers and Hot Fixes to a Install Disc and then install, that way till the Hot Fix load gets up again the system works well and slows down over several months to the point where the users start to complain that it's now unusable. ;)
Col
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I have reformatted disks. I've wiped disks, and I have to say I don't even bother reformatting if I'm not going to wipe the drive. I've re-installed operating systems.
So, going with a format and reinstall, I haven't done my main XP system ever. Windows 95, and to a somewhat lesser extent, Win 98SE, it is only slight hyperbole to say "all the time". Machines I fix for OS issues get nuked and paved about half the time. Testing and "play-around" machines get wiped before every new installation.
So, if you broke something in the OS, had you tried an in-place repair install first? And if you had problems serious enough to reformat and reinstall, had you wiped the drive with something like DBAN or Killdisk prior to partitioning, formatting, and reinstalling?
And if you broke something just by changing settings, my advice would be to document what you do so that you can undo it. This saves time, and you are more likely to learn something, as well as have a reference for the future.
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by umzy Accepted solution
Format is not required if you really understand OS very well
Please follow following few tips
Keeping system upto date.
Defrag File System every week or once in fortnight.
At least run scandisk once in 6 month
Frequently clear temporary files by running System cleanup utility
Before install any driver ensure you are 100% what you are installing
Same hold true for any non standard software
Try to use default application As far as possible
Always log on to system using standard user account rather than Admin account
Make single partition rather than multiple unless reason to do so
by stephen wheeler Accepted solution
Reformatting the OS disc is a huge job, so I avoid it like the plague! Re-installing the OS means:
- Cleaning up (e.g. deleting outdated and duplicate files), then backing up user(s) data (>1 hr. per user)
- Backing up application data (e.g. browser settings and bookmarks - 1/2 hr. per user, not including the time taken to persuade other users to get on with it. Thankfully this activity is becoming obsolete as the price and capacity of laptops has improved so much and application writers have made backing up simpler)
- Cataloging all frequently used applications and extensions - then making sure you have the latest versions on removable media (6 to 8 hrs.) - or licence information and download locations if you want to download
- Cataloging all drivers and making sure you have the latest versions on removable media. The last time I did a OS re-install I assumed that a printer driver would be available on-line. Wrong! The manufacturer had withdrawn support for the printer and I could not find a replacement - cost: 1 new printer! (5 to 6 hrs)
- Re-format disc and partition if wanted (highly variable depending on size and speed of disc(s), but lets say 2 hrs)
- Install operating system (>2 hrs last time I tried)
- Configure OS (>2 hrs last time).
- Instal security apps. (Firewall, Anti-V, Anti-S,) and configure (1 to 2 hrs).
- Instal major apps. (Browser, Office Automation, Media Player, programming tools, mail extension, softphone, Adobe readers / players, etc. (again highly variable but the last time I had to do this it took at least 3 hrs)
- Launch each major application and re-install extensions and settings (last time this took me, on a single user system, about 4 1/2 hrs).
- Instal frequently used minor applications and drivers such as printers, external drives, Scanner, MP3 player, Dig. Camera, etc. and test all hardware (about another 5 hours).
- Put back data (about an hour per user).
- Optional: Scan & Defrag - another 6 to 8 hours.
I therefore, conservatively, estimate that it will take me 40 hours to re-instal my OS. Some people will say that this can be reduced by good housekeeping - which is true, but not by much in the overall scheme of things.
As my last re-instal demonstrates, it must be done properly or you can find yourself shelling out for some serious costs (lost printer driver = new printer and ink).
Some of my times may seem a little long to some people - I think my HD may be underpowered for the number of apps I ask it to run, but otherwise I stand by them.
Also, like most people, I don't always fully document and re-instal every setting and application. Usually this is because time is too short. I (therefore) always end up losing productivity (or leisure) time in addition to the above. This lost time later - when you have to try and remember how you did it before - sometimes means finding and re-installing some obscure minor app.. These are particularly bothersome because they take so long and you always find out when you have a deadline!
If you keep your security software up-to-date, and scan and defrag your media on a regular basis re-installing the OS should really only be necessary for tech guys who need to experiment with OSs, and people recovering from virusi or cack-handed users.
by spcecil Accepted solution
Really? 40 hours? I can completly reformat and install my system in maybe 3. its easy, buy an external HDD, and automatically backup as you go. then when you feel its time to reformat, do it; and when your done you have a clean OS and all your docs/data are still where you left them.
If you dont want to buy and external, just partition off however much space you need in your current HDD, when you reformat your OS it will not effect this space; only your primary partiton (or whatever partition you select actually)
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by corporategeek Accepted solution
With modern operating systems & hardware - the need to re-format appears so rarely. Maybe maximum once per year - in case I managed to screw up the whole system. Windows 7 is very solid and can take almost anything. Same with the other operating systems.
Anyone remembers the days of Windows 98? :)
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by dayen Accepted solution
I format only new drives when I re-install windows I put in a new drive that way I DON'T LOSE ANYTHING THE CLIENT HAS. If they say it missing I put in the old drive and say were is the file, want to bet it was never on the local machine (if the old drive bad I recover what I can and keep drive safe all recover data goes on different drive) lost data = lost client
Forgot to add I do this for my personal computers as well I have 5
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by steveaaa2 Accepted solution
Lets see 9.10 10.04 10.10 11.04 ...
Maybe less often now that I have moved from Ubuntu to Mint Linux, but by having my System files separated from my data files, it is not too traumatic and I get to run the latest OS available, and quite happily on my 7 or so year old Laptop.
by slayer_ Accepted solution
So I split it into partitions, then formatted them to FAT32.
Even on my XP machine, which has had an install since 2005, when I changed my mobo, I just installed over-top of my old install, keeping my files intact. I still got the performance boost from having a clean install.
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