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by bobf 3 views

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Have you been replaced by an H-1B or had your job offshored? Are you tired of 80+ hour weeks low pay lack of respect or constant worry about unemployment?

Are you over 40 and "over the hill" considered unemployable?

Do you live in an area of high unemployment of tech workers? Are you unwilling to move across country for the chance at an IT job?

Are you leaving or have left the tech or engineering field for better job opportunities?

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by charliespencer

Three posts here in your first day and all of them begin with H-1B rants. You're new here and you didn't have the sense to lurk for a while. Had you done so you would have learned that around here, when you start a new discussion with a bunch of opinion questions, you're expected to provide your point of view or experience on those subjects. Otherwise you're just another troll hoping some poor member will rise to your bait. Respond to your own questions first or bugger off.

by fouthm

Your obviously one of those stupid lazey Americans who can't add 2+2.

Move out of the way for us, we are smarter and work harder. Just because you r white you think you must own something.

We r much better than you , that is why we take your job. H-1B hep to move job to India where work is done. YOu cannot compeat so you must go away.

by ksoniat

Geesh, got quite a chip on that shoulder don't you.

We are stupid, lazy, white and American.

Lots of assumptions there.

Your argument of calling names rather than using intelligent points is so impressive.

Have a nice day!

by the scummy one

does that change Palmetto's statement in any way, shape, or form?

Hmmm, 2+2-9 right?
Look jerkoff, me thinks you are too tarded to stick around here. Your racial views will ultimately get you the boot, and get you into many a flame war. Just because you have a god complex does not make you god, or even right for that matter. Who the F**k cares about you or your dumba$$ opinions?

Do you know how many stupid dumba$$ questions popup on this site that come from India, from lazy wannabe peoples? Everything from how do I break laws to please do my homework! However we dont make the assumption that everyone from India is like that, because we have a few brain cells left. On the other hand, you seem to have deluded yourself into believin that you are superior to everyone. How sad is that? Take a look around, you are the friggin dumba$$ here.
I hate to say it, but, you might be better off pulling the dildo out of your a$$ before posting such cr@p.
F**K OFF, dipshlt!

by boxfiddler Hot topic

Post your idiocy to a member who said diddly squat nothing about H-1B at all. You must be one of those arrogant SOB's with delusional tendencies.
FOAD.

by jdclyde

What else could this assclown be BUT a troll?

He attacks Palmi over something he didn't say.

He gets abusive over something that wasn't said.

He claims to be superior while not even able to type full sentences.

Is it any wonder there are so many negative stereo types about the citizens of India? It is because assclowns like this re-enforce them on a regular basis.

Go back to selling slimjims, Abu.

by jiminpa

If I was willing to work for 2cents a day and a bowl of friggin' rice I could get any job I wanted. I have talked many times to so called "tech support" from India. My 5 year old could have done a better job.

And seriously, what does being white have to do with anything LOSER!

:ar!

by rob mekel

that this post is on the wrong place in the thread.
Looks to me this guy was trying to answer to the opening post.

Otherwise it makes no sence what so ever.

So either "fouthm@" didn't have his mouse in control on answering the post ([i]which is not very bright[/i]) or didn't read what Palmetto was saying in his post ([i]which isn't very bright neither[/i]) :)

Eitherway not bright of "fouthm@"

by hypnotoad

then it's no small wonder quality of products and services from your home country are by and large rubbish.

Nice racism as well; it's not about "being white" or whatever you personally wish to believe. Indeed, the very fact Americans voted for somebody non-white should put this racism issue into the proverbial 'completed bin' forever.

by tatroc

The only reason work gets send to India is because you people work for pennies. ha ha ha...

by tony hopkinson

I do a hefty commute, but that's been relaxed as I now work from home three days a week.

The rest of it not worried at all, I'm good you see....

by rob mekel

The question was over 40 AND over the top ...

My guess ... you're not over the top :)

yet ]:) :^0 ;)

by dixon

...and live in a world where far too many hard-working, responsible, decent people currently have no idea how they're going to feed themselves, pay their bills, support their children, or stay in their homes.

I guess my blanket answer to your various subquestions is that I feel pretty damned fortunate to have enough sense to be able to earn a living in this trade, so far.

I never let a day go by without acknowledging that blessing, and would suggest you adopt a similar policy.

Buck up.

by jdclyde

I was willing to overlook the assclowns showing of his limited intelligence by the use of texting in posts, but that he could't make a complete sentence.....

Again, re-enforcing all of the negative stereo types out there. The citizens of India should beat losers like that, for the damage they do.

by jdclyde

If you don't like 80+ hours, you should not have taken a job that has that.

You don't like low wages, should have had a sense of self worth, and not taken a job that pays less than you seem to think you are worth.

Lack of respect? Respect is earned, not given. It is clear why you are getting the low wages.

Over 40, and NOT considered unemployable.

Don't walk, RUN, to find yourself a better opportunity. From the sounds of it, I would advise something Unionized.

by thatotheritguy

I read this and just laughed. Its about as accurate as it gets though. With all of these jobs being outsourced to foreign countries where they work for pennies on the dollar... Do you think companies will begin to pick up on the fact that The old saying 'you get what you pay for' still applies? Or are they so consumed with the almighty dollar that they just don't care? Want to stick it to 'em? Hang up on the next 'Michael' or 'Cindy' that answers your support call with a thick foreign accent, and do so every time ;)

by ed woychowsky

As someone with delusional tendencies I protest being grouped with a narrow-minded individual! Heck, if it wasn't for my delusional tendencies most days I wouldn't even get out of bed.

by jdclyde

of someone who is angry at the world for not being born white.

A shame, really. Gotta feel sorry for the little insignificant child.

by charliespencer

I believe this was intended as a reply to bobf's original post. Apparently using a forum is not one of the skills taught overseas. Good thing, other wise we'd have to worry about our discussions being outsourced.

by charliespencer

"My name is Palmetto; how may I be to helping you today?"

"Certainly Mr. Scummy! I would be happy to be making your replies for the time period you have designated! First, please, I must be asking you for your Autoreply account number."

"Oh, I am to being so sorry, but that account number is only good for replies to questions from new members about hacking the password for administrators! I am unable to help you with your replies to H1-B visa rants. If you would like, I will be connecting you to your account manager who can extend your contract to these areas. Please hold while I transfer your calls!"

by fregeus

...I too have considered leaving the IT field, but maybe not for the same reasons as you.

I am 40 years old, been in the business for 15 years. Am looking for employment in another province and am not having any luck. I am getting tired of the conditions of working in IT and I am contemplating doing something else.

But I haven't switched yet, because I haven't been able to find something that I like that pays as much as IT. Do we have low pay in IT? Absolutely not. We are payed very well in IT. We do work like dogs to get that wage, but that's just part of the business. I understand and accept that IT is an off hour job and it will require sacrifice. An I worried about constant unemployment? Yes, but then again, who isn't these days. Times are tough for everyone buddy. As far as that one is concerned, I agree with my colleagues, suck it up.

Working in IT is not always rosy, but we all knew that when we got in. Cops can get shot, fireman get burned, electrician can get electrocuted, we all have our share of issues with our jobs. Now, unlike my colleagues here, I do understand that one can get tired of the pace, the long hours, the fear, the constant battles. But all those things are about you, not the field itself. If YOU are tired of being in IT then YOU need to change, not IT.

You either take it or don't. But if you decide to take it, you need to take it all, the good, the bad and the ugly.

IT is like golf. You either like it or you don't. Its not for everyone. Sometimes it can be darn right frustrating enough to want to throw your clubs away. But if you decide you do, don't say you miss it later.

TCB

Edited for typos

by jessie

be more like MINI-golf? I LOVE that game! Especially the goosing your opponent with the golf club part... best to bring your own clubs though. You've NO idea where those rentals have been! :D

by jdclyde

Always thought there was something fishy about those clubs. Now I know, it was the smell.... :p

by forum surfer

I work mon-fri, 8-5 with less than 5 hours of ot on average. Granted my pay is sub par for my field, but that's the sacrifice I am willing to make to have an active roll in my son's life. Sure, I could make more money in the exact same position within a different company but I just don't care about the $$$ any more. I changed my lifestyle a bit and I am healthier and happier. Instead of working late, I'm at the gym or helping coach whatever sport my 6 year old boy is in. Hell, maybe even dating if I'm lucky. :) Others in IT may laugh at my salary, but I'm pretty damn happy with my life.

I may not be cynical like the original poster, but I can see why someone would leave IT. If not for my current job I'm certain I would have switched careers in order to ditch those 60 hour work weeks. Looking back the sacrifices in my lifestyle that I made seem minute compared to actually looking forward to each day. I realize I got lucky finding a nice, cushy IT job that is actually challenging and rewarding at the same time. I'm very thankful, but every once in awhile on payday I do miss those larger checks.

:)

by jdclyde

A federal job, having nothing to do with tech, but the pay is good, good benefits, and good retirement.

If I get it, I will be walking away from IT and not looking back.

No, this is not the job I have the second interview for tomorrow. Haven't heard back at all on the Fed job, yet.

by ksoniat

After my 8 year break I thought about pursuing my first degree in education. My degree is music but they have a "fast-track" for math and other highly sought after subjects.

I would have made less than half what I'm making now (even after taking less after the gap) and had to deal with the discipline issues in the schools - any teachers I talk to at the high school level call it a "war zone".

As a programmer/ developer I seem to have less politics than some networking/systems people. That, and I was lucky enough to get into a good company & dept.

by dlarowe

At 43, I've been in IT for 20 years. After climbing the "corporate ladder" I became completely burned out with the never ending hours.

While the salary was wonderful, it certainly came at a price. The only person getting rich was the "big man" behind the desk cutting budgets, reducing staff and expect more performance out of less and less.

I finally jumped off the corporate ladder and re-evaluated what I wanted. I love IT. It's all I know... it's who I am.

I've been employed in a small, rural school district for 6 years now and I couldn't be happier. The pay is far less... but the rewards are immeasurable! Everyone is so happy for the help I can provide, thrilled over even small progress, thankful and appreciative.

It's not always about the $$... but about the internal reward. We do fantastic things in this tiny little school with very little money but lots of creativity!!

by charliespencer

I didn't get into IT to manage budgets and evaluate employees. While I'm capable of those things, I don't enjoy them. My career will be centered on jobs that keep me in touch with the technology, not the board room. That means I'll make less money, but I won't be spending any of it on psychiatrists or Maalox.

by rob mekel

you did notice the twist :)

Some have their standards on a higher level, JD :p :0 ;)

But you are right the saying is "over the hill" not "over the (mountain)top"

Rob 0:-)

by charliespencer

When you're ready to do it right, go over to the gym after the ladies' cycling class and try leather seats on the stationary bikes.

by hypnotoad

Please don't be racist in turn. That fool doesn't need to turn his own misperception into anything approaching reality, and the civilized world doesn't need to sink to the same level.

Then again, some stereotypes are based on, at least, partial truths... unfortunate, but true, we all have a few of those to battle, much less prop up...

(It's also spelled "stereotype", but if I were to look for grammatical flaws, your one is nothing compared to his fifty million mistakes... :) )

by hypnotoad

Constraining work, admonishing enthusiasm and ability, and having the cheapest sticker price is all that matters.

Which is unfortunate; I know a company that subcontracted a new satellite office. The subcontractor too subcontracted, and after a chain of 5 or 6 subcontractors down the line, found out which one screwed up with some piping that broke last winter... No accountability either...

It's a mess. Then again, proper globalization would have cost too much as well.

Thinking fluff like ITIL is the solution isn't going to help matters much either. B+ for effort, though...

by the scummy one

I am trying to figure this out, but my brain aches at the disgust of it all.

Geez Palmie, you have some twisted fantasies

And JD, your fantasies SHOULD NOT include me in any way.

by shellbot

ok..now all I can think of is Scummy, JD and Palmie , and a horse..dressed as cowboys and indians..

and ya just had to throw in the "unatural acts" reference didn't ya..

I'm going to snort bleach..back in a bit..

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