TechProGuild Feedback Forum: John Sheesley

California would be cold and dark, wqithout BC's Hydro electric power being shipped down there.

There would be less Natural Gas and propane would cost a mint, say hello to community sixed charcoal barbeques.

Your lumber and homes would cost more etc.

Jim, you have every right to be proud of your country, nobody has even so much as implied you should not be, I wouldn't be proid of my elected leader but the country's another story.

I too am very proud to be British, the British fought a long hard battle during the blitz, they held their pride tightly and fought the Luftwaffe successfully and ditched Hitlers attempts to invade England successfully.

Shortly after, Canadian Troops were at britains side and fought hard for England and are loved by the British, we are helping YOU clean up Afghanistan, and now that you are being pushed out of Iraq, Canadians will also stay behind and help there too. So while we don't display a huge military might, Canada's armed forces are imperative in such operations for recon (world's fastest and best equipped recon vehicles) and humanitarian help to assist the people.

So I am also VERY proud of Canada.

Ok we seettled that, we both love our countries, what did this resolve though Jim? What's the point to voicing we are proud? Should we need to? Should we tell the world how great we are?

No, it's not needed. Pride is an inner feeling and a sense that nobody can take away from you, so why bother top express it? EVERYONE is proud of their homeland, even Iraqi's, and they have every right to be.

This desn't mean they are doing everything right though.

No I don't live in a police state. No I am not under arrest for driving past an accident. In BC there are MANY laws that just don't go enforced but are there simply to make one feel obligated to help, which everyman should when his fellowman is down. Remember the army Jim, brotherhood, looking out for each other? Why is it we can only expect this mentailty form SOME citizesn? For you to NOT feel this way goes against everything you are supposed to stand for as a soldier.

Basically Jim, you can call our government whatever you want, personally I 'COULDN'T CARE LESS' (hee hee) as I probably call them much worse than you ever could I also call a spade a spade and don't pretend I have to suport my government when they F-up like every other government, they ALL SUCK!
One thing my government doesn't do that you feel they DO do, is play a role in my daily routine. I do whatever the hell I want, when and where I want and have never had the government say I couldn't. Again, only tha major laws are enforced and most are just paperwork from some bored legislator that go unnoticed, we are left to live morally.

The difference I see, is Canadians are for Canadians, no matter what, we support each other BEFORE we suport our government and that's what every elected leader knows, he MUST apease the people and leaqve us alone to live our lives.

In the USA, although you think it is the opposite, I see you placing your government WAY above the people and the people supoprt the government before looking out for each other. The government says you HAVE to look out for one another and you start ranting about civil liberties and the Constitution and crap. Why can't you just nod and let it go, kowing that you would look out for your fellowman anyway, with or without a law.

The reason I joked about being police state is because of all the scandal saying American government is behind organizing these terrorist attacks (well documented too, but just as easily discounted by the other side)in order to have the people support America becoming a police state.

Now I know there is some heavy left wing bias there, even if from a former Repubilcan, but it does make one think (or at least it SHOULD make you think)about the real intent of the US government, especially when it lines up so right with all of the actions and unexplainable decisions to sign certain documentaion by US presidents, like Bush ordering the release of known Iraqi terrorists from FBI grasp.

So not to insinuate that the government has a hidden agenda (like all governments do except the in the USA where it is a good government). All I am saying here Jim, America'sgovernment and leaders are just as screwed up as any other government on the planet, there is NO WAY you can say it is better, there is NO WAY I can say it is worse. It is just a bunch of silver tounged con men with a public job. (remembered the L that time;-)

You see ANY action of the US government that actually involves the people's input as NOT your business. Well that is the problem Jim, everyone expects the government to run the country, keep the bad people away, praise the good people etc.

Where do YOU come into all this, what role do YOU play (apart from once fighting for your country). Where does Jim start to accept responsibility? Why do YOU think your country needs you if you don't want to play a role in making it safer place to live? Sometimes it takes tyhe people of a country to enforce change, not the government, if the people don't act, how can you expect your government to work for you?

We call that downtown Vancouver. To be racist but very accurate at the same time, our native coomunity (skid row) and Lysol, Aqua Velva and glue get along too well.

If you walk down the street there you need to be quite limber and fit in order to step over the bodies that little the street like causlties of war.

The funny part, this is the SAME street that is the home of the Vancouver Police Department, they don't have as far to stumble when released from the drunk tank that way. It funny when you watch those Cop shows.

In the States, they have the show COPS, where it takes four cops to struggle with PCP and crack heads peaking out and trying to take them out. In Vancouver we have a show called To Serve and Protect, where it takes four cops to lift up some lifeless drunk and get him into the ambulance.

It's erally funny actually, the US hads these gun toting guys just freaking out with inhuman amounts of drug induced energy, here it seems we have a cop who spends most of his day picking up drunks and losers from skid row. A really funny contrast, SO B.C.

Well Jim, I know you just don't understand Canadian politics and BC laws so I will just ignore your comments as they are neither accurate nor valid.

As for laws not being enforced, dno't tell me this is a new concept to you. We have TONNES of laws that aren't enforced. our government passes laws for the purpose of having something to fall back on, not something EVERYONE must follow, if it is we simply don't.

Such as, no drinking in a public place. Well everyone in Canada drinks in public places, when you can consider half of Canada's wilderness is a public place, it simply can't be enforced. UNless a group of kids are making too much noise or being too rowdy near other families, then the police can pull some law on their side and shut it down, but it's not a heavily enforced law, unless needed WE ARE LEFT ALONE TO DO OUR THING!

Can't smoke in bars and restaurants, well most bars and restaurants in BC wil hand you an ashtray IF you ask. They would rather take a POSSIBLE fine than turn away customers.

You are supopsed to report any accidents you witness (not neccessarily play 911 and save the damsel in distress), but if you don't nothing happens. If the occupant died and you were seen slowing down and then driving on without reporting it, 1) You are an a**hole, 2) You deserve to be hurt and left lone to suffer 3) get the hell out of here But you are not going to jail. You have broken a MORAL law, not an enforced one.

So STOP seeing black and white, you need to use personal judgement (God help you) to decide what is right or wrong. You should NEED the government to make you, but if you won't act like a decent citizen by yourself, then someone should make you or ask you to find a new country.

O think TR is owned by C-Net as C-Net is the authorative company regarding TR content, the ones I was bitching about for wanting $2500.000 for public info.

C-Net is a great portal VERY busy, they also run ZD-Net which is equally as large (I find much better than C-Net) and god knows what else, this is no small company. Well TR seems very small but the owners are MASSIVE internet portals.

If they were actually interested in TR, they would fund it and make it what we want. I have a feeling (ust a personal idea) that C-Net doesn't really want anything to do with TR but to have their name tagged to it. Tr seems to be independantly run by the editors etc. and the service is funded by C-Net (again just a hunch).

So if TR kicked ni the C-Net door and told them to get their act together they would either be cut out of the picture or funded, I don't know if TR has a structure that would provide a single person who would be in charge of ths though as it seems to be mostly run by the editors and some staff.

hit the enter key by mistake on the previous post with was just the word Britney.

We could just discuss Football, Baseball, Basketball, Hockey, soccer, sculling,....

when was the last time a Harvard suller outrow an Oxford man at Henley?

OR we could discuss The Da Vinci Code...an astonishing great book.

"Windows Server 2003... NetWare... Linux... Professional Wrestling... The Presidential Election... (Not to confuse the two.)

You pick the topic, and we'll talk about"

Think it's prettry much an open conversation.

Sculling, not my bag (although my brother sculled at Oxford) it doesn't do much for me, he's the typical British scholar, rich guy you see in those stupid yuppie movies, a regular Hugh Grant.

DaVinci code ...yawn

Religion! Well that s not a good toic for debate as it never goes anywhere or provs anything we haven't aall heard before, but usually good for a good bash or two.

Lakers? Nah,
B.C.Lions? THe season will be over as fast as the discussion.

How 'bout....nah we can't talk about that.

Here's a new one! How about Win98, Win2K and WinXP? Why and when should people switch?

I've enjoyed reading the interesting replies in this thread.

Thanks everyone!!

Scott