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I had to travel recently and when I deplaned I looked for a driver sent for me.
The driver was carrying a sign with my name on it, but as I approached him I noticed that he was talking to himself, very animatedly. As I got closer, I realized he had one of those Bluetooth wireless phones clipped to his ear and was deep in conversation. I pointed at myself as the person he was supposed to meet. He nodded and went on talking to whomever was on the other end of his phone.
When my luggage arrived, I grabbed it off the belt; he pointed toward the exit and I followed, as he kept talking on his phone. When we got into the car, I said, ?Do you know my hotel?? He said, ?No.? I showed him the address, and he went back to talking on the phone.
After the car started to roll, I saw he had a movie playing on the screen in the dashboard ? on the flat panel that usually displays the G.P.S. road map. I noticed this because between his talking on the phone and the movie, I could barely concentrate. I, alas, was in the back seat trying to finish something on my laptop. When I wrote all that I could, I got out my iPod and listened to a Stevie Nicks album, while he went on talking, driving and watching the movie.
After I arrived at my hotel, I reflected on our trip: The driver and I had been together for an hour, and between the two of us we had been doing six different things. He was driving, talking on his phone and watching a video. I was riding, working on my laptop and listening to my iPod.
There was only one thing we never did: Talk to each other.
It?s a pity. He was a young, French-speaking African, who probably had a lot to tell me. When I related all this to my friend, an editor,he quipped: ?I guess the era of foreigners talking to taxi drivers is over. The taxi driver is now too busy.He's right. You know the old story, ?As my driver said to me about the upcoming elections ... ? Well, you can forget about that anymore. My driver was too busy to say hello, let alone opine on politics.
I relate all this because it illustrates something I?ve been feeling more and more lately ? that technology is dividing us as much as uniting us. Yes, technology can make the far feel near. But it can also make the near feel very far. For all I know, my driver was talking to his parents in Africa. How wonderful! But that meant the two of us wouldn?t talk at all. And we were sitting two feet from each other.
When I shared this story with a friend, a technologist who once labeled the disease of the Internet age ?continuous partial attention? ? two people doing six things, devoting only partial attention to each one ? she remarked: ?We?re so accessible, we?re inaccessible. We can?t find the off switch on our devices or on ourselves. ... We want to wear an iPod as much to listen to our own playlists as to block out the rest of the world and protect ourselves from all that noise. We are everywhere ? except where we actually are physically.?
Wassup with this?

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by jack-m

I mistakenly double posted this morning and can't find a way to delete the other post with the same title. Please ignore the other one and reply to this one.
I can find no way to contact Tech Republic either. Hell of a way to run a railroad!

by gadgetgirl

use the feedback envelope on the bottom of the page, or email Smorty, Jay or Doug - they may be able to get the duplicate pulled for you

GG

by deadly ernest

Just go to the other thread, use the edit option and delete everything, replace it with something like "Error, don't read" as the title.

by dmambo

Whenever anyone edits like that, people flock there. Some of the best threads get started like that!

by jack-m

What could be easier? Maybe a delete button or a remove button or edit to erase it all?
I tried edit and deleted everything and sshazam...back it came.

Thanks for the thought though.

by dmambo

-In meetings people are using their PDA's or laptops. (It looks like they're taking notes, but I suspect they're checking e-mail, etc.)

-At home and one kid is on the phone, one is chatting on-line (with 3 or 4 separate chat sessions) and one is watching TV.

-Parents at a school event holding out a cell phone so the other parent can hear a song featuring their kid.

-Car trip with each kid listening to his own music through headphones

Those are some typical examples of tuning out by tuning in that I've seen. I don't think that there's any turning back the clock. It's what we've become.

What do you think the long-range consequences will be?

by gadgetgirl

the consequences have already started. Lack of communication.

Most kids I know don't really "talk" to their parents anymore - at least not in any meaningful way.

As for kids talking to other kids - have you heard them lately? Sheesh, every other word is a swear word. An eight year old in my street is absolutely incapable of saying one small sentence without swearing at least once - I proved it, I bet him he couldn't do it in the summer holidays...that reminds me, he still owes me a car wash.

Oh, and they also can't spell, either. There was something on UK news a while ago where they were going to change something on a website to text spelling to make it easier for the younger ones to understand....

And these are just some of the consequences we're getting now....short term.

GG

by jack-m

Pretty soon we'll be teaching "text" in schools so the kids can communicate. By schools I mean teachers colleges so the teachers can understand the students.

by jack-m

Long range consequences will be the end of life as we know it. Short term we'll be using electroni comm devices when we could easier use our voice. LOL

by tig2

I worked for a company where the accepted way to have a conversation was by IM or by phone. Instead of walking two cubes over, you made a call.

I think that we are not only losing the ability to communicate effectively but are also de-valuing communication more and more. Not a plus.

Time management has been saying for some time that it is getting more and more important to learn to turn off connectivity devices and teach people around you to connect with you only during specific periods. I agree and go one further.

For some time now, I do not permit cell phones in meetings. What I have discovered is that I can eliminate the need for a tag on meeting or reduce my meeting time in general because the rule is to be engaged in the communication in front of you. We don't spend near as much time repeating information this way. You'd be amazed at the push back I get from that.

by tig2

I've noticed that the site has been a tad on the funky side today. So try this dodge... Go to the second post. Wipe out the title only and replace with "Duplicate Post". Remove the body of the original and replace it with a link to the correct discussion.

If you wiped out everything and did not replace with some kind of text, TR will ignore your edit.

There for awhile, we had members that hadn't yet filled out a member profile but wanted to add an avatar. What we discovered was that there has to be SOMETHING in each field in order to update the profile and add an avatar. I know it is on the list but don't know if it has been fixed yet. I think in general, TR doesn't accept posts with null values.

Hope you find this helpful!

by onbliss

We are leading a fast paced lives.

I don't travel for work, so the travel is just for vacation and such. The Twin Cities airport has lots of Somalian & Ethiopian cab drivers. I think there is some presence of Sudanese and Eritrean people as well. If the time/mood permits I try to talk to them; the conversations are always enriching. The last cab driver was Sudanese and we had good talk about the problems in Sudan and his thoughts about them.

by ethoslight

I appreciate this article. Helps reaffirm my attempt to filter out the distractions in my life. Technology is great, but we all need to remember not to let it overrule our lives.

by deadly ernest

of Diagnosis Murder (1980's murder mystery series with Dick Van Dyke as a doctor) Dick's character walks out to get in his car. He notices the guy in the car on his left is talking on a mobile phone, so is the guy in the car on his right. When he revs his engine and pulls out, the two guys on the phones, realise that they're talking to each other while parked on car space apart. I thought it was funny then, and still do.

Edited to comment on the TR censorship, it's the guy's bleeding name D Y K E sheesh, ti ain't even a swear word.

by drowningnotwaving

I mean, look at the Dutch. Some of them make lifetime careers going around sticking their finger in a dyke!

Now without the censorship that's just racist but with the censorship it's racist and dirty.

See what you are doing!!!!!!!

by drowningnotwaving

Oooops sorry copied the wrong speach.

This one has gone around the world in various mags.

My suggestion - slip a gay porno DVD into his car-player and just watch the fun when next his wife or girlfriend get in.

by drowningnotwaving

Yup language is dynamic. No doubt.

But in a language already rich with so many ways of saying getting off, leaving, alighting, exiting, egress and I'm sure Synonym-Man could find about 100 more - why did the US feel the need????

(and having travelled the world multi-times I'm fairly confident that it is only ever used there).

Do you also decar, debus, dehouse, deschool or dare I ask detoilet?

If I'm feeling particularly defellated is that a good or a bad thing, I wonder?

by deadly ernest

did defenestrate my Windows, my MS Windows XP, that is. I liked the idea of throwing my Windows out the window.

Later, I went out, collected it, and sold it to someone else.

Don't you just love those good old English words, picked up from other languages.

by Member 25348569

once said that "English has - for a long time - been a linguistic mugger which takes other languages up dark alleys and slaps words out of them."

I make him right!

Neil

by deadly ernest

Modern English started life as Saxon (which included a lot of Celtic words), then had a lot Anglic added. Withe the Roman influence, it go Latin and a lot of Greek incorporated. Later influences from the Normans added huge swathes of French, and the Hapsburgs added some German. Since then, it's found it easier to adopt new words that try an create them - kamikaze, robot, etc.

Because it's a mix of so many other languages it's hard for people to learn, and has so many words with similar sounds and different meanings, also so many different words that can mean the same thing. It's one of the most colourful languages, unlike some modern languages that are so dead, they have a very limited list of names you can gave your children.

by Member 25348569

That would be too much! :)

You're not quite right on the development of the language, though. Most of the Roman and Greek influences come from the French and not, in fact, from the Roman conquest of Britain, there's not a huge amount of Celtic in the language either in words or grammar structures. Then we tried to get rid of the inflections but didn't manage it completely.

One of the interesting questions - and one where you'd probably guess that I'm firmly on the side of the pedants - is whether you use the linguistic rules of the source language or "English rules" for plurals of nicked words.

Cherubim (Hebrew)
Children (low German)
Hippopotamuses (Greek)
Referenda - Latin
Gateaux - Modern French
Pizze - Hmmm. Even I don't go this far even though I can eat two.

The ignorant and lazy will happily claim that "referendums" is OK and "referenda" is pedantic but would find "childs" unacceptable. A lot of the same group of people, I find, don't seem to have a problem with "hippopotami" which is is wrong by any system!

Ooops! I started to go off on one then...

Saturday. Beer and footy. Not for diachronic linguistics!

Neil :D

by bigbigboss

You only have yourself to blame. You are not worthy of access by your driver. He doesn't want to talk to you. It is all about priority. It was way more important to talk to his girl friend on his phone about the hot date he is going to after dropping your off. You are just no competition to a hot date.

It is not technology that isolates people, it is priority and opportunity. Drivers talked to us before just because they don't have any way to talk to their girl friends instead of you. They won't talk to you if their girl friend was along for the ride, even if they don't have a cell phone.

YOu cannot cure this problem, but the driver's boss can. Just fire a couple for this kind of performance and the disease is cured.

by deadly ernest

me the tom t i t s when you go on.

When using the English language, one uses the English methodology for plural etc. However, some imported words were imported with their plurals. For example datum / data - virus / virii (I do hope I spelt that one right). Thus, you buy one pizza for yourself, and you buy 6 pizzas for the whole basketball team.

However, English is a living language, words, meanings, and spellings can, and do, change over the years - hopefully generations. I remember when being gay, just meant that you were happy because you just won the lottery or your girlfriend accepted your proposal of marriage.

As for strine, listen very hard, and you'll find it's nearly all colloquial English - lots of Cockney rhyming slang, some Irish slang, some from almost every region of England. Gaw blimey, and bloody 'ell is sure to ring a bell with many. It's just that when they all ended up out here, we mixed it all in together.

On a different tangent, my old man was born in Huddersfield Yorkshire - typical Yorkie farmer type - never said much, but when he did 'By goom ya bist lis'n 'ard' When he put on his father's accent, you needed a chainsaw to cut it, talk about thick. Luckily, he only ever did that as a joke.

As to being with pedants or against - when I hear a media report that a town has been decimated, I expect to see film footage showing one tenth of the townspeople lying dead in the streets, while the buildings are undamaged. When they report the town has having been devastated, well, I expect to see much damage to the buildings and people.

But don't you love some of the new words, like robot - it's current usage originated as a derivative from a Czeck word used in a science fiction story.

edited to correct censorship misindication

by Member 25348569

I've seen from many of your earlier posts that you like things right so my post wasn't aimed at you at all and was mainly a joke. Of course, we do understand Strine because there's so many of you buggers over here! The Australian abbreviations, barbie, etc, I can accept but not the rising inflection at the end of every sentence!

Neil :D

ps I would argue with your plural for virus (virii) as it fits no known language rules and virus in Latin has no plural so we have to use English and the English rules give us viruses but it's Saturday and the sun is shining.

Viri - as the genitive case of virus - would be acceptable when talking about, say "computer viri" except that "computer" is the genitive noun.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

I need help...

by deadly ernest

implying that some of these posts are supposed to be serious - oh what a horrid thought.

the rising inflection is a relatively new thing. Developed in the last 30 years or so. The root cause is the BBC radio and TV announcers. When we got our own radio and TV announcers and news readers, many were trained in England, and when they came back with those BBC plums, they were told to do something about it. The sorry result is the odd, almost Gregorian chanting, way of reading the news and doing announcements. Since then people have picked that style up from them, and trying to imitate it - I wish they wouldn't.

The traditional Australian accent, is actually a lack of accent - which is why we've been so good at imitating other peoples accents, because we had nothing to start with.

Re plural of virus - I never did Latin, and didn't know if it should be virii or viri, hence th note re spelling. But I agree, we should be using viruses, but all the English teachers throw their hands up in horror at that.

As too why there's so many over there, so many of our parents came from over there, and they always talked about visiting the old country, and how great it was. Our lot get over there, realise our parents were wearing rose coloured glasses, and sink a few beers to get over the horrid shock of the cold. After that, we get caught up with the rosey cheeked English lasses, and that's it mate.

by nicknielsen

[i]The traditional Australian accent, is actually a lack of accent - which is why we've been so good at imitating other peoples accents, because we had nothing to start with.[/i]

]:)
Not so. Australian English is derived from British English, mostly as spoken by the lower classes. It has not changed appreciably since the days of the first settlement.

American English was also derived from British English. However, it has been exposed to numerous immigrants over the years. The effect on the original accent has been negligible in most areas, but in the Central U.S., it has been beaten into submission until the only people who speak English without an accent are Midwestern Americans. And nobody can understand them...
/ ]:)

Edit: grammar

by emar1000

I think I would have hailed another cab. At that point who cares about talking to some one. I just would have wanted to know I was a little safer getting to the hotel.

by dracolf

I have to say, I noticed this tendency towards isolation a few years ago....even in myself. Nowadays, not owning a TV, I've found a lot more time to actually -live-, and my choice has been to use it in things that actually involve interacting with other people. It has been so rewarding I wouldn't let any gadget take me back to the old times, even if I can't talk anymore about the latest TV show :-D

by lightning joe

I know this is now an ancient thread, but i couldn't pass up the TV reference.

I too have found the glass teat to be an incredible time waster. I don't have one now, partly because there is no air TV where i am, and i'm too poor (and cheap) to pay for cable AND internet, which is too much for the service provided.

The fact that so many of us are wedded to our tubes suits the self-proclaimed governing elite just fine, but it's the impact on US that we should be concerned about. It shortens our attention spans, and drives quiet out of our heads, so that even when we are alone, we don't really know who we are.

The only times i miss TV are when i want to be brainless, or when there's an election being counted. But the web is good for the latter, and there's always drugs for the former ;)

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