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well i am 16 yr old guy ....

this is a bit far away from technology...but related....

well...some of my friends have been sending attachments.... .exe files which ruin ur pc...with MY NAME....

so all dumbos do not beleive me....some one sends a fake mail and attachment....i am blamed by everyone....

everyone....even the guys who thought were my best friends have turned against me....

how do i explain this....rumours are spread...i hack and all that shit....
anything that happens....

that day my friend ,i gave him a net booster application....he says it slowed down his pc....and evern the internet !!! IS IT POSSIBLE THAT BECAUSE OF A APPLICATION... YOUR INTERNET GETS SLOW.... NO WAY....

its just jeolusy that i am a MCSE and other guys are not tht they are doing this.....i do i protect my self against this....

please guide..me...i dunno what to do....dumb thing....i feel like suiciding

bye
virendra

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by mel "blazing_saddles" dundee

Pray!

And when you are through

Pray again!

The best answer is no answer at all
Just keep on with what you are doing and ignore it. Your true friends will believe you and those that don't, well you are just sorting the wheat from the chaff.

Suicide is a little drastic don't you think

by ryttinch

Sounds like they're not really friends to me. I've had to make the choice between freinds and other stuff before, and it's not easy, but be true to yourself, and things will work out.

I would suggest, however, that you try to prove that it was not you that has sent the emails. It could save you from getting into trouble later on.

Good Luck!!

by peyison

Virendra,

You're obviously a smart guy - and if you're already an MCSE at 16, I'd say you have a pretty bright future ahead as far as a career goes. Don't let this foolish nonsense get to you.

You must know that if it ever came down to it, itcan be proven that you didn't sent the email. And you know that a PC app will have no affect on the Internet.

Of course I don't know for sure, but I bet these "friends" all probably know better, but are just giving you a hard time.

I'd say it's time to find some new friends. Life is short enough as it is - the answer is not to make it shorter, but to put yourself in an environment where you can enjoy it.

Good luck.

by dmiles

First of all you sound like a gifted person that has made some accomplishments in your life at a young age,but along with that comes peer pressure that brings up the other stuff that makes you feel unwanted and you go out of your way to make friendsand to fit in with the crowd,this I think is what you have to deal with.Look to talking to your counselors at your school or mentor that you can talk to about a situation as
this.You will have to look at what part you played in this situation and find a way to accept your part,you may have to humble yourself.The situation sounds cruel,yet I think it will blow over and things will get back to normal,suicide is not the answer and it sounds as though you are asking for help and this is shown by posting this in the forum,and I am not quite sure that it is okay,and the points are not important.I feel that you have more to offer in life than what you are thinking and it is the youth of today that will guide us in the future,so look to that as what you can offer and be a part of.
What may work on one person's computer may not necessarily perform the same on another and I think you know that,so talk to the guy and offer your apoligies for suggesting the application and ask him to uninstallit.
The fear of what you think is not all ways the way it will turn out to be.
Another thing you may have to find new friends,or look to other areas that you can be helpful to others to apply what you have learned.Keep your head up and as life goes on so will you.
Hav a Good Day

by nerdy_gurl

Dear Virendra,

Sometimes the toughest questions to answer are like the one you have and they are not dumb questions.

Since you are an MCSE, I believe you have the technological answers to how your friends do this to you. But please permit me to put a couple cents in here and suggest that possibly the mail headers will have pertinent information, even though they might be forged.

I understand your concern about being tagged as a hacker because of all the nasty things associated with the'name' such as viruses, etc. Perhaps you could keep a private record of those you know have done this, so if your integrity ever comes into question, you can defend yourself in an honorable way.

As a mother I have had to face the problems of my daughters having trouble with certain 'friends'. Jealousy is a powerful motivator for bad behavior. Please don't think of suicide as an option. I understand how having friends is so very important when you are young, but try to remember when the goinggets tough, to die is forever! As friends go, they will change, and the circumstances around them will change, no matter what your age.

Hopefully you can ignore the rumors as much as you can without being subservient. As others have said these folks are not really friends.

You have a bright future already with your knowledge, so don't let these so-called friends ruin your life before it has a real chance to start.

I wish you happiness and the best of luck!

by davram

Well, well. Hi, virendra.

You seem like a smart guy, as everybody else already noticed. What should you do?

Stop wyining, stop acting like a sensitive geek and everything, especially since you have a technical expertise that should make your alledged friends a lot more respectful.

You should put your hand on a mail like that, and watch carefully the mail's headers. This way, you have a big chance that you can trace the sender. You could prove that you had nothing to do with it. And youwould show your ignorant friends that you are smart enough to have done this kind of thing, but still, you haven't.

Hope to hear from you some good news.
++
Dan

by original eggman

Get a DETAILED FULL PRINTOUT of one of the offending E-Mail Headers. This SHOULD trace back to someplace other than you.

Then explain to your alleged 'friends' how to read an E-mail header.

Of course the BEST advice I've seen here so far is to just ignore the whole thing. A couple of weeks should make it go away.

How bright can these 'friends' be anyway, opening .EXE attachments!

JMHO

Egg

by software architect

Virendra,

I can understand how you feel. I have been the brunt of issues that I thought there were no cure. But through counseling and prayer I have found that we are special people with special and unique abilities. And you have accomplished what most people your age could only dream about. Life is to precious to throw away. There have been some sound techinical advice given you from the answers above. Take heed and live life to the fullest. I hope to hear good news and great accomplishments from you in the future.

by rdeen

People who will blame you or who would believe negative stuff about you are not true friends. Stick with the people who support and uplift you and cut the others loose.

It sounds like you are a smart person, being a MCSE at 16. Congratulations! You have accomplished much at a young age. And with your accomplishments you will go far! Talk with someone who can help you find a part time job to put those skills to use. This is one way to meet worthwhile people who are on the same page as you.Hang in there Virendra! At 16 life can be tough, but it gets better and better. Believe me, it's true.

by ebob

OK, so you're an MCSE. This means that you have the tools (between your ears) to explain an email header to anybody that matters who is giving you grief. At the same time, you'll be able to show who is behind the problem.

Case closed.

Keep your chin up. A fellow I worked with years ago told me "You can learn something from anybody, even a total idiot (he had other words). Even if all you learn is how to identify a total idiot!"

You might want to keep this in mind when considering your so-called friends.

by arigney

whatever you do, don't shoot up your school! it's not a cool thing! noone will think better of you if you do that! pistols bad! shotguns bad! relax... take a deep breath.. ahhhh much better?

by steved

Hi, Virendra. Don't let them grind you down.

You've had many practical suggestions here regarding e-mail headers and the like. I would add only this one idea. You can't control what the people in your life are going to do. You can't control whatsituations are going to face you. You can only control how you yourself respond to the people and the situations that you face.

So it's up to you. Either waste your time feeling frantic, depressed, suicidal or decide to take control of yourself. You know your own worth. You know your own accomplishments. You know your own integrity. It's up to you whether or not you feel you must prove anything to your friends, but you never have to prove anything to yourself. No one can take from you what you know to be true.

Best of everything to you.

Steve Diamond

by estebandelatorre

Dear Viendra,
Some people like, need to discharge all his frustations & envies in someone. It's your turn, but in a couple of weeks, another will be in your place, and you will be part of the bad_boys_group.
Just do not give them attention, and they will simply find another guy to bother.
Some other people just need a person with good skills and knowledge (like you) in order to obtain personal benefits (speed up internet). If they are insatisfied or unable to resolve the problem itself, they just bother the 'current' guy or the one that know how to solve the problem.
In Argentina we said "No le des pelota!!! y que se vayan a la mierda"
Simply do not read any email from those you said are your friend, do not open .exe files and start searching for new friends in the arena technologies.
If the are in computer's problems, ask them to send the PC to a tecnician...

Good luck from Argentina.
(I'm 39 years old, and also may times, happened to be the 'current guy' for sometime)

by kaigb

your mum will miss you and she probably will not like having to clean up the mess

by pbgerrard

I am 17. Perhaps, someone else responding also is closer to your age, but my point is, I do understand how you are thinking and how you feel.

Knowing how impressive MCSE certification is, you probably have a good job.

These guys you describeare not friends, and thy seem pretty jealous of you. Go find some real friends. Perhaps if you start hanging around jocks, you may eventually become friends with them, and they will never be jealous of any computer accomplishment.

Second, act like a very kind and responsible young man. If you download anarchy documents and always talk about computers, people will think you a freak. If you act like gentleman, people will not believe you are a hacker, and if they do, it will add some mystery to you. If you are kind and well-behaved, girls will like you and adults will like you, regardless of the rumors about you.

So, if you take my advice, adults will like you (like possible future employers especially), and girls will like you. What else really matters?

If somebody got zapped by one of your "friends", and they confront you, explain the situation. If you take all of my advie people will start to believe you, and it will get around that all the rumors about you are not true.

To give you further hope, lets look at groups of people like this in history. They usually become fanatics and go off the deep end, and evrybody stops listening to them. They will ruin themselves, and once they do, they will not be able to ruin you.

Hope this helps.

by william j sosville

Folks find it easier to blame someone else than to be accountable and yup sounds like jealousy.
Do the header deciphering if you want to but it wont change much because theyll just change their tune to "...if you can crash my system then you can fabricate this info!"

You got friends in here. And us geeks stick together!

by edward clint

Exactly how stupid are these people?

Who sends a virus/malicious mail or programs.. and then puts their name on it?

Why dont these people look at the person SENDing the damn mail?

Your friends, or non-friends or whatever are idiots.

Obviously we are talking about a group of pc-illiterate kids.
What can you do? Remind the fools of the above points, I guess. Or otherwise, one-up them in a social(not techie) sense.

Whatever you do though, get on with your life. Realize this crap isnt important at all. Its part of being your age. Its the same sort of stuff most of us had to deal with. Kids can be bastards. So if nothing else, bear it and move on with things. Dont let it get to you, in the scheme of your life its just stupid bullshit that doesnt deserve a second thought. Dont give it one.

-EC

by geeker_

MSCE at 16, congrats.

Just because you are PC smart, does not make you a haker. It is whay you do with your knowledge that defines your character.

I would find a new group of friends, sounds to me like they are jealous of your brain. I know that at 16, friends mean a lot. But in two more years you will be off to college, meet new friends that can relate to your computer skills and not be jealous of you.

So that probably does not help you now. I would suggest that if the other kids are jealous that you are smarter then they are that maybe you should not talk about your computer knowledge with them. Sounds like they do not have much computer knowledge anyway. If you do continue to hand with these kids (although I don't suggestit) find other things to talk about when you are together...sports, cars, girls...anything but computers.

If you get nothing else from this note please remember. IT IS NOT YOU. YOU ARE SMART.

PS have you tried online gaming. I know a lot of 16 year old super-computer kids that play games together online and talk about computer stuff online.

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