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Let me know if you get 100% on the first go, it took me 2 tries to get there.

http://www.humorsphere.com/fun/8787/colortest.swf

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by ansugisalas

But It'd be funnier if there was a third color option... now I find that I just defaulted to "press the name of the color that isn't the same as the one above"

by michael jay

She also knows it is Saturday, Sunday or getting dang close to it for you.

Hope that leg is doing better.

by hal 9000

I'll look in tomorrow. :p

Currently as I can not get into the bath [b]SWMBO[/b] is throwing me down the front stairs and hosing off the Blood and other stuff that accumulates. She is currently refusing to throw me down the back steps as there is grass down there which may break my fall and not hurt anywhere near as much.

But as I can not work at the moment I'm defiantly loosing track of the days. :(

Col

by seanferd

for it to say which two buttons. I thought keyboard keys had been implied, not mouse-activated hotspots. :p

by michael jay

I blew it on the first try, needed to find the interface, you were successful right?

It is actually difficult till you turn off reading in your mind.

by seanferd

You need to disengage processing for, or reactions to, the inappropriate stimuli. For me, the longer such a test goes on, the more likely I am to err from losing focus, and I have a hard time resetting afterward.

What I find more difficult is to speak the name of the color without reading the word instead. It's harder to keep the irrelevant verbal processing suppressed.

by seanferd

What else is revealed by this test and discussion? That I made no association with Stroop test/effect or Stroop's (way popular) paper until you mentioned it. Which says something about the way my memory works.

Laws, sounds like prefrontal cortex damage!

by tigger_two

They actually use a form of this test to gauge impulsivity. Impulsivity is an element of executive function, which can be damaged if certain dysfunctions are present and during normal grieving.

The Stroop effect is also an element of some testing to determine an individual's executive functioning. But that part of the testing is looking at inattentiveness.

Remember, Seanferd, you asked!

by ansugisalas

You do like this; hold your hands in front of you, index fingers pointing at each other then move your hands in circles, each hand moving alternately towards your body and away from it, and alternately upwards and downwards, in a circular movement around 10-20 cm across.
But in opposite directions, f.ex. your right finger goes from the starting position moving towards you and down, while the left moves away from you and down...

The trick is, that the circular movements should, for each hand be, say, counterclockwise, as observed from the wrist.
The movement is easy when the fingers point away from you, but difficult when they point at each other...

by ansugisalas

Go from the pointing at each other movement, to both pointing away from you, never stopping... and back.
I swear I can hear my neurons screaming as they're doing the loop de loop!

by seanferd

Nor any similar thing. But right now my arms and wrists are so sore and tight that "circular motion" is just a mild suggestion, so it feels wrong and confusing without the whole counter-rotating knives thing. Work is not kind to my connective tissues. Typing is OK, but I can't really touch-type any more. (And I'm really numb-fingering this now. Upwards of 6 corrections already.)

Wait, how did knives get in there?

by ansugisalas

You should go get a nice lympho-massage for your arms... be careful about the knives staying retracted though ;)

by charliespencer

then the other. Get your rhythm down with one hand, then start the other. This also works with patting your head while rubbing your belly.

by ansugisalas

If you're the type that finds it easy, then maybe eights is within your reach... for me the eights invariably turn to parallel movements after one or two... fun while it lasts though.

by seanferd

were screaming before they got on the ride. Advice: Don't hang about below the loop de loop while my limbs are aboard!

by ansugisalas

But it's the same thing as what you've done with reading-processing... they don't really need to be linked, they're just linked because we learned them that way... but doing 8s, that really is hard...
I can't do eights very well yet.

by ansugisalas

how can it be? Are you trying to say that today goes on and on in all directions? *pop*
Great, now I blew out a lobe...

by ansugisalas

they do say tender loving care is the best for recovery...
Do you still have the bird problem? You can always try to land on those, if any are around. They'll break the fall a bit, and might be edible, once croaked! :D

by hal 9000

And the Lorries left. Unfortunately it didn't last and they are now back with a Vengeance. As [b]SWMBO[/b] son described them there where so many I thought that the tree would fall over. Anyway that tree is out the back so I'm not allowed near it.

On the new back landing yesterday there where at least 50 of the horrible things fighting and making the biggest noise possible, not to mention driving me nuts. Anyway as it's now official that [b]SWMBO[/b] is driving me to bankruptcy they are only eating 15 loaves of bread a day but now they are getting honey on that bread not just the bread.

[b]Talk about being Spoiled![/b]

Col

by charliespencer

I have squirrels that periodically steal from my bird feeders. I don't mind much about the sunflower seed but suet is expensive. Nothing that a generous coating of hot pepper sauce won't cure...

by charliespencer

I can't do the eights with both hands / fingers just going in the same direction. I wind up moving my fingers up and down; the horizontal motion gets dampened out after a few repetitions.

I can twiddle my thumbs in either direction, though. Does that count? How about crossing my fingers with the ring finger and pinkie? On either hand? Oh, and I can roll just the tip of my tongue, while the rest of it stays unrolled.

by ansugisalas

I can cross, on either hand, index+middle and ring+pinky, all four pairs at once - is that what you mean?
Roll the tongue... how do you mean, fold the tip backwards, or form into a tube, or turn the tip in one direction until upside down? Or something else entirely?

by michael jay

we read, give the test to someone, a young child who cannot read, watch them smoke the test.

Reading is a reflex, identifying color takes more time, and worse when you add the interference factor of having the word green in red letters.

It takes huge concentration to turn off the reading thing, if the test went on for 20 minutes, I think my brain would have exploded.

by seanferd

if you un-focus your vision or take off your eyeglasses (assuming the words aren't readable at all without your vision corrected.)

It is largely true that we read words as recognizing glyphs, all in one go, and we tend to anticipate and fill gaps as well. So, we don't always see all of the the words fnords or we add things in as we go. A lot of reading is un-conscious, so it is difficult to stop.

by michael jay

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by seanferd

I was driftting off there. ;)

Stroop is one of those weird animals that can be used for testing against a lot of things, depending on how the test is designed. I don't think that even something like tracking eye movements has as many uses. (Tracking eye movement during Stroop tests provides rather interesting data.)

by tigger_two

I can walk and chew gum at the VERY SAME TIME!!! How about that?!?!?!?!

I can also hyperflex the fingers of both hands. And touch my thumb to the inside of my wrist.

I can also tell people to "live long and prosper". Just sayin...

I think that some of the movement association things are highly dependent on how one uses their hands. I was a sign language interpreter so am accustomed to moving my hands in a variety of ways that are not associated with how I would speak. ASL doesn't use spoken language structure, it signs key concepts and qualifiers as needed. That said, it took me three tries to "tune" my brain to see colors and not words in the test.

I can cross all four fingers at the same time. I can also stand on the tips of my toes. Ballet will do that to a person.

by seanferd

(Although sometimes it makes it even easier to misread what I want to misread for entertainment value.)

by tigger_two

Is how painful it is to read that content.

Yes, I could both read and understand it. However, the mental acuity of the author dropped with every misspelled word. Net result? I was able to convince myself quite easily that the idea being forwarded had absolutely no merit whatsoever. Oddly, when forced to read "leet speak", the same phenomenon occurs.

Just sayin...

by michael jay

should have edited that out, another silly email forward.

But we do read by imaging more than reading the actual letters in a word.

by tigger_two

Tracking eye movement can be definitive.

A person who is telling a lie (or making a wild guess) will present a variety of eye movements. People with executive function dysfunction will also present a series of eye movements during testing that are equally definitive.

Most executive function dysfunction tests are telling of, but not definitive FOR absence or presence of dysfunction. This is a major reason that, while a plethora of tests exist, none are capable of clarifying diagnosis. THAT must be done by someone who is well trained in both the dysfunction and how it presents.

It has been opined that "most" (no actual percentage provided) of the people who actively pursue IT as a career have one of several executive function dysfunctions.

by charliespencer

Yeah, four pairs like you described. Just for giggles, I paused while typing this to try crossing middle + ring; I can do that on each hand too.

I originally meant rolling the tip into a tube, but your prompts reminded me I can fold it back too. I've found neither to be of any use in those activities where one might hope they would.

by ansugisalas

Specifically, a flexible tongue correllates with healthier teeth, all things being equal.

I can't cross middle and ring fingers, I can get one on top of the other, but that's as far as it goes, and I can feel that pain all the way up to my elbow :)

Tig, hypermobility? Good kind or bad kind?

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