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I'm sort of stuck on this one, some maybe someone can tell me what I'm missing.

As the administrator, any undeliverable mail is sent to me. Often, I don't even bother to look at it because most of it is spam. Today though, I get an email for an ex-employee, who the company did a lot for, then just walked off one day after 6 months. This email is from a current customer of his. I'm not sure if it's a bid for work, or a job he's working on now. For the looks of the email, he either screwed up on the specs, or if it's a current job, he screwed up on what he delivered.

Here's the rub. At the bottem is the usual disclaimer, "....intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). It must not be disclosed to any person without authorization. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are not authorized to, and must not, disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it.

Can I tell my boss? Can I pass this on and let them figure out what to do with it, or should I just keep my mouth shut? I'm leaning in a particular direction, but I'd like to get another opinion.

Thanks.

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by microhell

I don't see any reason to pass it a long. If he is not with your company anymore, why care what has happened? If he is still with your company, then any emails coming in or out of your network belong to your company, in this case give it to your boss.

by rickydoo

your company has the right to do with it's email as it pleases. On the other hand, the sending client has the right to privacy which is spelled out in the caveat you mentioned.
I would reply to it that the employee is no longer with your Co, and inform the client that the email will be deleted. Your boss and anyone else in the Co has no right or need to see it (if the client was not stolen from your Co's client list) , and passing it on could get you in hot water if anything is done with theinformation by a third party.

by areets

You should feel positive to respect your company's ethics. Your company's resources and content belongs to your company. It is your company's responsibility to know what all ex- or employee did under the name of "the company".

Each individual must be respected, and the business entity.

The company owns the domain, so all mail it must have access to. Each alias offers uniqueness, as the alias has been removed, the content must surely belong to the domain.

But the content cannot be mis-used on a personal level niether by yourself nor the manager; but solely the "representative".

Based on my revised currencies of society, the above stands to be of true character.

Hope it helps!

TSP

by thechas

I would normally return the e-mail to the sender as undeliverable.

In this situation, there is one other thing to consider;
Is the sender a current or former customer of your firm?

If no, you have no reason to forward the mail within your company.

If yes, then the legal issues get a lot thornier.
Closely read your companies non-disclosure and / or non-competition agreement that most employees are required to sign.
If you suspect that the former employee may be violating the agreement, contact human resources for advice on how to proceed.

Chas

by jackofalltech

The one thing everyone missed is that the disclaimer is not legally binding. The email was sent to your company's domain by the sender without any request on your end. As soon as it entered your system, it became your company's property. You never signed nor consented to any such agreement, therefore it is the same as unsolicted snail mail - you can do with it whatever you want to. I would let the sender know he no longer works there and delete it.

Ralph

by jereg

This person is a former employee. When employees leave, I put their name as a alias in a dead mail box. The box has a 0 file limit. Thus, all mail is kicked back, and none is saved. Execpt, I get a copy as an "undeliverable" message.

I think whathappened, the person used an old email address for this guy, so it came to us. His fault. He receiced notice of an undeliverable message.

Yes, it came to our domain in our office. It does belong to us. But also, the sender is, or could be, a client of ours. If it concerns an ongoing bid, it could be relevant to us.

We're a small company, so we have no HR department, or any department. I'm inclined to take this to my boss, give it to him and let him make the decision.

by maxwell edison

There's a lot of fuzzy area; things that aren't exactly clear - at least from my perspective. But that doesn't really matter because it all boils down to one thing. To whom are you accountable, and to whom do you owe your dedication, your employer or this former employee? What are the possible pros and cons of not reporting it? What are the pros and cons of reporting it?

It seems to me that there's no downside to reporting it, but there might be a downside of not doing so.

The disclaimer to which you refer - even if it is legally binding - pertains, I'm sure, to your company, not the individual working for the company. Your job (I would presume) is to act according to the best interests of your company. By sharing something like thiswith your boss is certainly in line with those interests. Isn't that what a boss is for? If you're not sure what to do, then ask. (After all, if you knew ALL the answers, then you'd be the boss.)

by dbgirl

Take it to your boss and let him make the decision. If it is a current or potential client, then there could be more of a problem with just deleting the e-mail.

It just makes sense to let the boss determine what to do with e-mail coming in to a company system. The disclaimer shouldn't apply to sharing the information with your boss. It should only apply to sharing the information outside your company. I'm basing that statement on the fact that e-mail coming into your company system belongs to the company, not an individual within the company even if that individual has since left the company. If it is a potential problem for your company, you have an obligation to tell your boss.

Like it or not, the sender of the e-mail identifies the individual they sent the message to with your company, or they wouldn't have used that address. That makes it company business.

by hereinoz

I find myself agreeing with Maxwell. If this ex-employee was bidding for work with a company with whom you had, or could have, no dealings, then return to sender is the way.

However, if he is exploiting his previous position at your company, andthe contacts made there, to gather business at your company's possible expense, then the boss ought to be informed.

As Maxwell said - that is what the Boss is for.

Alan

by jimhm

If on his departure from your company, signed a non-compete clause then run this email past your lawyers only. But if this person that departed, has nothing binding to the company - than your mission is clear - "Delete the Message".

You said thesender should of gotten the message as undelieverable - so there is nothing else you can do -

It's not an ethical issue - its a legal one.. The stamp at the bottom of the message states what you can do with that message....Period.

by maxwell edison

Are disclaimers legally binding?

Some quotes and sources:

"The disclaimers added to the end of emails are not legally binding, but it's always good practice to try and disclaim liability."

-Michael Chissick, Head of Internet law at Field Fisher Waterhouse (March 2000 Internet Magazine, 'All work and no play')

An interesting link:

http://www.emaildisclaimers.com/

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"The sender can't in general unilaterally stipulate conditions on what the recipient may or may not do with the email."

- http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/

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(I like that second one)

Disclaimer:

This message is intended to be read by jereg only. If anyone other than jereg (the clearly stated and intended recipient) reads it, you owe me $100 U.S. dollars.

by jimhm

I take this as - if you forward the message to your boss - you fall into the following issues.

Breach of confidentiality: By including a disclaimer that warns that the content of the e-mail is confidential, you can protect your company against the exposure of confidential information. If the receiver breaches this confidentiality, they could be liable.

and

Accidental breach of confidentiality: If an employee were to receive a confidential mail from someone and by accident forward it to the wrong person, the employee, and therefore the company, could be liable. Furthermore, e-mail can easily be intercepted. If you include a statement at the end of your mail that the message is only intended for the addressee, and that if anyone receives the e-mail by mistake they are bound to confidentiality, this could protect you.

by jklein

You should kill his mail account as soon as he is terminated. Your company should have proceedures in place where the IT department is notified of a termination and all network/e-mail accounts are terminated immediately.

Problem solved, delete the message.

by maxwell edison

Another quote:

“Email messages are not safe! They go over many points (routers, switches etc) in Wider Area Networks and over the Internet where they can be seen by network supervisors (and hackers). A disclaimer can only create a false sense of security whilst in fact you may be breaking Data Protection regulations by transmitting personal data. Hands up those those who have not sent a message to the wrong person or the wrong attachment. Having a disclaimer does not prevent a message from being intercepted, nor being read by the wrong recipient - nor being used against you in a court of law. The most a disclaimer can hope to achieve is to notify the recipient (or interceptor) that the contents are confidential.”

http://www.somis.dundee.ac.uk/general/wizards/emaildis.html#Safeguard

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Just for grins, do an Internet search of, “intended solely for the attention and use of the named”, and look at how many saved - and published - emails you’ll be reading.

There’s no way a disclaimer like this could hold an employee libel or accountable for anything. Actually, the sender of an email with such a disclaimer who actually thinks it would have any "teeth" should be held lible for being naive.

If you have any doubts about acting in the “best interest” of your company, talk to the boss.

by oz_media

This almost seems like a question of morals rather than legality.
Most people understand that on the Internet, anything goes and there is little or nothing that can be done about peoples opinions.
(The whold freedom of speech and expression thingy)
In you case, I would return the mesage to the sender but instead of a "sorry it couldn't be delivered" message, canvass the prospect yourself.

Dear sir/madam, we regret to inform you that "JOE BLOW" no longer works for our company. Should you require our services, please contact XXXXXXX or reply with an email stating the following (gather whatever info you need to quote on the job).

This is hard for the sender to get mad about because the mail was sent to your company. Even if addressed to an employee, the mail is still received by your company at you company's domain, therefore it is company mail and you have a right to read it.

Ex. If a current customer was sending a request to an employee of your company who was no longer there and you didn't reply, the company may lose a customer.

Who knows you may get to quote competitively, if not at least the sender knows that you were following up on potential business and will let it slide.

by areets

...regardless of. Excellent suggestions alround, but indeed, this is an issue of both individual and company ethics in the making.

The administrator must report to his manager, especially that he's unclear of the company's policy as it's a smalloutfit, with the end result defining a clear policy for future actions.

If SMEs do not prepare or react now, they will be caugh out by city slickers.

Who do I owe a $100 to?

Internet LAW in respect to privacy, protection and coyright do not come into play in this situation.

TSP

by jereg

Thanks to all. I knew if I asked, someone would bring up the concept I was missing.

I think that the disclaimers don't count for much. Email is NOT secure, by nature and by law. That's probably the way we want it, (at least for now).

What I did was forward the email to someone in the company higher up the food chain to look at. I knew thay would understand the technical aspects as it relates to our business, and know if the email should go higher or not.

After he looked at it, he said it was meaningless to us and to delete it. He added that if I want to be polite, I could send a message to them stating that the person nolonger works here. Someone else suggested that.

That's the next point. The sender already got a message that the mailbox did not exist. Fine. It's automated. But, if I take the trouble to send a personal email stating that I got and read the email, could that put us on shakey legal ground? If they have a contract problem down the road, could they come back and somhow blame us, since we received and read the email? An email from me would be proof. I decided it wouldn't be worth the trouble, so I didn't send one.

by oz_media

Even though the customers request doesn't invite business that you are currently interested in,I still don't think you have any reason to not reply to mail sent to your company(even if it was a mistake).
The sender has NO legal recourse and your interest in seeing her matter taken care of may gain you some brownie points. I know your in the IT field but you can be the sales/marketing guy too once in a while. Especially if (as I understand) you are a small business.

Good luck and thank you for posting such an honest question, it shows your concern to do a job right, KUDOS!

by clearsmashdrop

I dont see you being on any shaky legal ground. As the email administrator you "own" that box , especially now that the employee is gone. You are expected to read bounces to make sure on going projects do not get neglected.

We are in a similar situation at my company. I was asked to come back a few days after my contract ended. I had emails from customers asking for help, and nobody was collecting them.

That disclaimer is not legally binding.

by leobloom

Even though the email was sent to that individual, the email address probably has your company name in it. If the work was so screwed up I would send an email to the sender stating that person does not work there and the work done had nothing to dowith your company. You do not want a tarnished image if they have any future IT work out for bids.

by bmclain

I believe You should not disseminate the information in the e-mail to anyone but the sender. While I am not aware of any court ruling on e-mail, using the models of US-mail or radio transmissions you may not make any use of a communication to which you were not an intended recipient

I consider the domain name to be the equivalent of a street address. If a letter was addressed to Joe Blow, 123 Anystreet, Thistown Pa 54321; and that was the address of your company, that does not give you the right to tamper with the mail if you are not Joe Blow or his agent. If Joe Blow was your employee in the past you are entitled to determine if the letter was sent to Joe Blow as an agent of your company but if not you may not make any use of the contents, doing so is a clear violation of law.

If you receive a radio message intended for someone else, making any use of the contents of the message is a violation of federal law.

For those that think the domain name implies ownership, does AOL have the right to read and use all e-mail addressed to an address such as anyuser@aol.com?

by oz_media

Your statement: "US-mail or radio transmissions you may not make any use of a communication to which you were not an intended recipient"
I have checked with my brother who is a corporate attorney for Rogers Cable and the CRTC (Candian regulating body).
He confirmed that the FCC does allow first-party recording of audio communication, whether telephone or hidden tape recorder as long as ONE of the parties involved is aware of the recording.
If you were to tape my conversation with someone else, that is not allowed unless me or the party to which I'm speaking with is aware of it. If I were to tape YOUR conversation with myself, lets say over the telephone, it is lawful and legally binding.

by maxwell edison

It's illegal (at least in the US) to open a letter addressed to someone else. But it's not illegal to open an email adressed to someone else. At least I think that is the case.

by skopelman

There is an old saying: "Avoid even the appearance of evil." But who would know the intent the sender of the e-mail might have? And so, the point is that many may follow the letter of the law (legalism), but disregard the intent. Who would spend themoney to prosecute, even if there were legal ramifications about the context of the email? Was anyone hurt? Did a finger become missing or an eye get plucked out? If the intent was to harm, there is a moral responsibility to place the letter in the right basket; if you perceive the intent was non-malicious, you would be a coward to bring attention to yourself to glorify your own self-serving interests: delete the mail and go on. Many times we are personally responsible for the knowledge we comeby, on purpose or by accident, and we are accountable for that knowledge (the more knowledge, the more grief). But our consciences must remain clear after we make a decision that sometimes no one else but us can make as individuals. I suspect, as the Administrator---who has already shared that he is leaning in a certain direction--- knows the answer his heart has wrestled with. If your intent is to do harm, your motives and your actions are wrong, but if your intentions are to do right, then your actions will follow rightly.

by frozen one

As an administrator u hav d right/privilege/responsibility on what goes on the company's email/web/domain server.

The Mgmt has the right to know any info that pass through their network infrastructure that is related to their business (almost allthings).

That is the reason y it is strictly forbidden/avoided/advised against using company mail for 'personal use'. By choosing to use the company mail for personal agenda, the users automatically forfeits his/her rights for privacy.

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