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I pose this question. Which is better letting a the using the GUI to solve a Problem or editing the reg. Say that you have a pc that is not connected to a network but keeps promting for a password every time you trun it on. Which is better editing the registrey or using the MS way of going through the GUI. You can edit/HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Real Mode Net/AutoLogon has to be '01' instead of '00'. Or should you 1. Right-click Network Neighborhood, and then click Properties.

2. On the Configuration tab, click Windows Logon in the Primary Network Logon
box, and then click OK.

3. When you are prompted to restart your computer, click No.

4. In Control Panel, double-click Passwords.

5. Click the Change Passwords tab, click Change Windows Password, and then click
OK.

6. In the Change Windows Password dialog box, type your current Windows password
in the Old Password box. Leave the New Password and Confirm New Password
boxes blank, click OK, and then click OK.

7. Click the User Profiles tab and verify that the "All users of this PC use the
same preferences and desktop settings" option is selected. Click Close.

8. Shut down and then restart Windows 95/98.
Which way is better?

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by butlerchuck

I think that choice two is better. It is using the OS to fix itself. the other way is using a bcakdoor. Please comment

by ian mclaws

Don't need to use either method. A far easier way on 98\95 is to simply log on, then do a file find for *.pwl (password list) Delete all that you find, then log off.
When you log on again, the system will ask you to enter a username and password, just enter a username but no password, after which the system will no longer prompt you for a password.

Good luck,

Ian

by butlerchuck

The problem is that certain softwar for home networked computers do use the pwl file. If you delete it then you need to reinsatll the software to let it creat it's own pwl file for connetion on a home lan for sharing ISP connections. In a network setting on lan you run in to the problem that i mentioned above with stored passwords. I just thought this is neat debate, and wondered what the train of thought was.
Chuck

by dcassat

Obviously, there are at least three answers to this question and deleting the *.pwls is quickest and safest. I don't avoid editing the registry to fix problems. Registry hacks are part of the daily routine. They are often the quickest and most direct way to fix a problem if you know them. The problem is that registry hacks are not obvious and usually take some experimentation or some help from someone who knows or has done it before. The above is a good example of a fix that you can find onyour own by poking around (I did). I'm sure that consultant types would agree that you want to take the quickest, most effective road and they're certainly not going to avoid the registry!

by raffi_

As is implicit in the above statements - context is important. I cetainly would not want a neophyte user poking around in his/her registry! And I have spent many hours undoing their "improvements".

I also do not avoid a registry hack when required. "Required" changes upon the need and the tools available. Using TweakUI is a whole lot easier to say, clear the last user logon name, than editing the registry to do so.

Using a GUI tool can also save you from "trickle down" types of problems where making a reg change breaks something else. Hopefully (a big hope I know) the programmer of the tool has examined all of the issues and has dealt with them programmatically to avoid such collateral damage.

Also, in my day to day work, I can sometimes forget how much damage I can do if I make an ill advised change to the registry.

"Oh I'm just making one small change - I won't do a backup first" has ben my downfall on a couple of occasions.

My conclusion - use whatever is the best balance of getting the job done and safety. Trouble is - that is a moving target!

Regards
Raffi_

by butlerchuck

I would say that I agree with Rafi. I don't think that the third option is a good one ether. What if a vp or owner of the componey has saved there password to nasdaq os wome other important info on the net that usses the pwl file to store this info? If you del it and they can't remember it then you are in deep ****! I don't Think that is advisabble since I have seen someone get fired for that. Tweak Ui and xteq are great tools. They offer short cuts for doing things in one location, but the debate is doing it through the gui or regedit which is better? Also, If profiles are set on a computer then you will still get prompted for a password. The password will just be blank if you del the *.pwl file. Thank you very much for all your input. Lets get some more answears and please post some more comments if you woulld like in response to mine.
Chuck

by tomsal

I'm with Ian on this one. I think too much is being made here over the issue. After all we are just talking about a NON-network connected machine and getting it so it doesn't prompt for a password right?

So what's the issue then? Just do like Iansuggested - nuke .pwl files , reboot and don't provide a password. Problem solved. Sleep well. ;)

Naturally things are different when you are logging into a network.

And its only common sense that you should never play with the registry unlessabsolutely necessary. This includes even the most advanced/expert users. Because no matter how great your skill we are all humans and we are all capable of a typo once in a while.

Just my .01 1/2 cents

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