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Java will not be the same if IBM goes under.

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by brytenk21

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International Business Machines (IBM) donates to many Java opensource projects and foundations. Can you imagine the impact on Java if IBM would close shop.

IBM implements Java solutions or part there of, on all the business software that it rolls out. As such it has been to their best interest to donate to Java communities.

As a result of the prevailing economic recession IBM is faced with the risk of downsizing or possibly closing some of its shops.

* Do you have a different view?
* Do you think this is time for IBM to wean Java.
* Will Java survives the winds of Microsoft on its own?

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by dr dij

we will all be in big doo-doo! Crops will fail, locusts will come forth, nuclear winter will set in!

Must sacrifice virgins on ancient aztec alter to prevent this!

by jaqui

sacrifice virgin in bed to prevent this!

much more fun (devil) since emote not displaying right

by codecurmudgeon

While there are potential problems with any transition of JVM versions (including from one Sun version to the next) there has been an open source Java Virtual Machine for a while.

Most Java oriented sites refuse to run with it, 'cause they check for the Sun version.

Without Sun will Java stagnate? I'd guess that the Java trade mark would, but there would be an open-source project providing follow-on products in a matter of hours were Sun to go belly-up.

Now, IBM dropping out of the open-source scene would slow things down a lot more 'cause IBM contributes to a much broader range of open source projects, from the Linux kernel to Eclipse to. . .

Sometimes I wonder what Thomas Watson, Jr. of "THINK" sign fame would make of IBM nowadays.

by jaqui

I have reason to want IBM to go under, to damage that malware called Java.

by dr dij

due to international diversification,
(and repeated layoffs probably)
IBM is doing OK.

My brother works for them, 30+ years.

Why would IBM failure affect Java tho?

Sun is the one who has it for download, and licensed and developed it.

(And they're ALOT more likely to go under!)

by bigbrim

IBM seems to be weathering this economic monster. Selling off the PC division was a bold move. Maybe IBM had the foresight of little Grover turning into a Big Cookie Monster. But saying that JAVA would suffer?!
Maybe it's just the idea that the Big Cookie Monster will take a bite out of Sun and IBM would pick up the crumbs....happens everyday.

by tony hopkinson

have 'persuaded' it down a route that benefitted IBM far more than it did Java.

Java is too big to die, maybe if this happens it will start being as portable between machines as it's proponents would claim?

by bigbrim

Economic recession or not, IBM has downsized many times over the years. IBM seems to be weathering this economic monster. Selling off the PC division was a bold move. Maybe IBM had the foresight of little Grover turning into a Big Cookie Monster. But saying that JAVA would suffer?! The JAVA platform runs on too many devices.
Maybe it's just the idea that the Big Cookie Monster will take a bite out of Sun and IBM would pick up the crumbs....happens everyday.

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