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NT Workstation in a Server 2k3 world

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by jjdunnjr

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Recently at a new customer site. They run an server 2k3 with AD. They operate an NT workstation that drives an high-speed, elecostatic plotter.
The plotter workstation cannot see the network and users cannot connect to the Ws to send files for plotting. They must use a CD
any advice?

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by cg it

what service pack on the station? is there a WINS server on the network? NT uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP. W2K/W2003 doesn't need NetBIOS.

by cg it

if you don't have NetBIOS over TCP/IP on the network, install a WINS server as a component in the W2003 DC. That way pre W2K computers can find resources by quering WINS.

by jjdunnjr

In order , as best as I can remember:
nt 4.0, no WINS server, but Active directory.
I will look into WINS server. thanks

I have been told that NT 4.0 cannot play in Active directory. Is this true?

by hal 9000

You also need to run 2003 in Mixed Mode not Native mode to get it to work with a NT4 box though I'm not sure if AD will work in this configuration. As I've never actually tried to use AD in this type of setup. All the NT-2003 setups that I've ever done have been on building or construction sites where the NT4 box is required to run a dedicated program as the AD hasn't been an issue. MS will just tell you to update the NT box to XP and will not bother about if the required software will actually ruin on XP. I've a couple of programs that are NT only and because of their limited usage currently there are no plans for them to be rewritten for a latter Windows Version.

Although I've has success porting them to Linux which might make your job here easier. You run NT as a Virtual Machine on a Nix box and it then connects easily with 2003 in Native Mode so AD should work OK like that.

Col

by hal 9000

Well you have a couple of options here you can reject all the answers, you can accept all the answers or you can mix and match as required.

I'm only talking for myself here but I really don't overly care too much either way I do this in an attempt to try to help people and I'm not overly interested in any form of reward other than knowing that I've helped someone.

Honestly Tech Points are fairly useless so I'm happy either way but if you don't close the question it will remain open and you'll keep getting answers at the moment but latter it may count against you as new site developments get rolled out.

There is some discussion about penalizing people for not closing off questions and preventing them from asking further questions until they have closed off the existing ones so I would suggest that you just close the question and accept or reject as you see fit. :D

Col

by cg it

Hal's also correct in that Active Directory has to run in mixed mode to support pre W2K machines [such as W9X and NT].

I'd just update the NT 4.0 to the latest service pack [so long as it doesn't break anything]. Here's a MS KB article on WINS for NT. As I said , NT needs WINS to do what DNS does. That is resolve names to addresses. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/870623/en-us

by jjdunnjr

Gentlepersons:
I than both of you fro your efforts on my behalf. This customer is considering upgrading to win2k.
I think all three reponses have helped me; but I don't know how to rate them. This is my first question.

by p.j.hutchison

Windows 2003 uses SMB signing for shares, you need to turn this off for older OSs in the DC GPO in the Windows Settings, Security Settings, Local Policies, Security Options.

by jjdunnjr

Gentlepersons:
please stop answering this question. the responses already received have proven very helpful. I read the FAQ but cannot find a way to rate the answers and close the question. I'm sorry

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