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Ive ripped out the content of a old PC and put it into a new box. The hardware is mostly the same except that I've changed the sound card, and the nc has changed slot.
The PC runs on a Abit LC Motherboard with an Award bios. It has a 2 HardDisc (both Large). Ive Linux boot prompt, with both a Windows and a Linux partition somewhere (I cant remember on which disc)
After changing the box, the PC will not boot. First I just got my boot prompt, but was unable to start Windows, and Linux was unable to mount root parition.
After a lot of experimentation, with changing IDE chanel + Master/ Slave ++++. I do not even get the boot prompt. Now after counting the RAM, and finding the discs the PC just die, the monitor stops reciving any video signal from the PC. Even if I try to boot from a floppy this happens. (I might have messed up the BIOS somehow).
Please advice as the PC contained my only electronic version of my old master thesis, which I had plans to publish on my web site.

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by justasas

I think this is problem with bios too. But I sugest you to change case first, because sometimes there are problems with power suply unit. If this won't help, try to upgrade BIOS. But I had problems with this today:( and you probably saw my question before yours, so be careful with BIOS Upgrading.

by rawright

Before you mess with the BIOS sit down, have a cold one, and watch TV for a while, then when the urge to do something drastic has passed, try this:

Remove everything but the video card, the floppy drive, and one hard drive. Make sure it's connected as Master, and it's on the primary IDE interface. Reboot. If this fails, shut down and swap hard drives, again jumpering as Master - it sounds like you just might have mixed up which is which in the shuffle. If this works, add the other drive and reboot. You may have to get into the CMOS and set the hdd type to AUTO along the way, if there's any possibility that the CMOS lost power in the process, to allow the BIOS to find the disk configuration.

If you can get a valid boot at this point you should be able to add other devices, one at a time, until you have a working system again. I know that it's tedious, but I've recovered two completely dead PC's this week using this process. It is absolutely critical to avoid the urge to make more than one change at a time; patience is essential.

If this doesn't get you started toward recovery, buy a cheap new drive and rebuild the system into something smaller, then add one or the other of your current drives as a slave to recover your thesis. Once that's done, you can fiddle with the thing at your leisure.

Good luck!

by joakim.kosmo

I have not had the time to investigate this before now. Tried your suggestion but still has problem. I think maybee there is 2 different problems. 1) There is a sporadic problem with the mainboard and Floppy/IDE interfaces that sometimes preventboot. 2) Something has happend to the bootmanager, and since the Win partition is not a primary partition it will not boot. Ill probably try to find some new drive and rebuild. Thx.

by csmith

The fastest way to find this problem is to remove the sound card. Next put the nic card back in its original slot, and try one hard drive, and then the other.
If all of the old components worked in the old case, the only new causes of a problem canbe the sound card, the power supply, and the change in the nic card.
As I understand this question, this is a swap to a different case. (Usually for more room.)
The motherboard is the same one?
The next thing to check for is cable damage.
This happens during case swaps.
Check the USB cables first. (Unplug them from the motherboard.)
Regards, Chris

by eddie c

Were you working on carpet while changing the case? I suspect that the mother board is dead due to static or short circuit. (80% chance)

To verify:

Take out all the hardware and reconnect them without using the case. You may take out the powersupply from the case too if you want. You just need the following items for the testing:
1. Motherboard
2. Memomry (You just need one or two memory chip)
3. Power supply
4. floppy drive (You do not need a hard drive)
5. Video Card ( You may try an old video card)
6. Monitor

If you have the same thing problem, try to swap the video card or memory. If it doesn't solve the problem, I think it is time to buy a new mother board.

Good Luck

Eddie
Microsoft Certified System Engineer

by grantcom

The Linux/98 problems can be solved later because it seems to me the bottomline is that you are loosing video (after disc setup by bios but before loading of drivers). First I would set the BIOS to default setup. Remove all cards except video and ofcourse ram...try a boot making certain that the drive is configured properly in BIOS and has proper mode i.e. LBA. Make certain that if the video card is PCI instead of AGP that it is pluged into slot 1. and of course do not plug an AGP 2X into an AGP 4X improperly (i.e. 2x plugs in towards the back and the front section is left open) or else trouble will ensue...so I hear.

It is possible that through your experimentation you may have forgotten to unplug the power cord while plugging and unplugging PCI cards...which of course can fry the card and/or the MB....lets hope not huh :)

by jackg3

I would check to make sure you have not grounded out the motherboard in the new case. Also make sure the fan on the cpu is working and it is not overheating.

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