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You're a fount. And a rock. Acerbic, cryptic, wordsmith. Master of Necessity. Phuque anyone who says other.

RIP, dear man.

[i]santeewelding left us sometime this morning/last night, due to complications of esophageal cancer.[/i]

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by jamesrl

I'm so sorry to hear, Jen. Please convery my deepest sympathies and condolences to the family. He will be missed around here.

by jamesrl

That I bought in Louisville when I was at the first TR gathering, seems appropriate to have some of that.

by boxfiddler

I've a copy of it somewhere, but in the mess this place is right now, somewhere could be at the bottom of the deep blue sea.

by charliespencer

Sonja hasn't interrogated you, has she?

We need to request a revival of the 'Member Spotlight' podcast. We have several newer members worthy of being interviewed since this feature was discontinued, including yourself.

by papa_bill

I will dearly miss your verbal artwork. I would search TR for your comments. You made me practice my thinking.

I hope those who new you better are consoled.

Cut a hole and pull me through!

by ganyssa

This is a poor way to get me back on TR.

My condolences to everyone who'll miss him - that includes me.

by cmiller5400

I feel guilty even saying this but I d@mn near choked to death on my breakfast sandwich while laughing at your post.

I guess that if we don't have laughter we gotta cry so, I'd rather be laughing enjoying the good memories :_|

Here's one for Santee [_]3

by steffi28

Seems like so many have gone recently another one that brightened my day and will be missed

by deepsand

Glimpses of the cleft are seen; sounds of the depths grow less faint.

You were memorably unique, Teasel; I shall miss sparring with you.

Wish Absolutely were here to see you off.

by ansugisalas

How you are goes for all things.
May you be with you, as you kick ass and take names in all eternity.
Thanks.

And, if you find yourself on that branch; get your ass back here, young man!

by gadgetgirl

So glad I got to meet him.

Memories of the Fox and Hounds, discussing the history of Newcastle Brown Ale, combined with a lesson on the Geordie pronounciation......

"NeeyouCASSul"

and he got it right on the third go.

Richard my dear, you are sorely and sadly missed.

No-one ever leaves the Gatherings again while I'm there without leaving me a double hug. New rule. Ok?

GG

by charliespencer

Dammit, web communities aren't supposed to last long enough for us to become this close to people, especially those we rarely or never meet. Now who will linguistically abuse the new fish?

by seanferd

[ol]
1. Already done.
2. Verbing weirds language. :D
3. I'll still miss him. Like a tornado. ;)
[/ol]

by hal 9000

A man after my own heart, if you can't fix it right the first time get a bigger hammer. :p

If the biggest hammer that you can swing doesn't work grab the Gas Axe and it's certain to be fixed one way or the other. ;)

Col

by jdclyde

some just leave more of an impression on others during our stay.

Santee, you will be missed. Say hi to Mycroft and Scummy for me.

by Sonja Thompson

with this dictionary now that I no longer need to translate his words? I think he enjoyed confusing me.... no, I KNOW he did! :D

Did I mention how CUTE he is? And I say "is" because the memory I have of him will forever remain.

by jamesrl

Then it would have been way too easy.

I won't claim to have been one of the better people at translating him. Far from it.

But I do know that it involved context, the ability to look beyond the obvious, a sometimes warped perspective and wordplay.

by Member 19291532

Santeewelding was one of the most interesting, deep thinking and challenging members of the Tech Republic community - and without a doubt one of the most responsible for defining the culture and tone of our message forums.

Santee was frequently misinterpreted and misunderstood, generally by those who found his complex writing unfathomable. There is no doubt that Santee's writing style was frequently riddle-like and difficult to decipher. Many dismissed this as a sign that he was hiding a lack of valid content in unnecessary complex prose, or that he was simply incoherent or pretentiously difficult just for the sake of difficulty.

While on the surface it was easy to read Santee's responses and assume these things, a careful analysis over time made it readily apparent that Santee was almost always saying very important things. I'd say that it was more frequent that I did not understand Santee than that I did, but in each case where I did puzzle out his meaning, not only was he absolutely correct, but the way he had expressed it was as complex and elegant as a complex mathematical formula. Santee brought the science of math to the written word. His writing was rule based, well defined, and consistently repeatable. On the other side of this realization, I had the strong sense that when I didn't understand a post Santee made, it was not his fault, but mine. It took genuine thought and effort to get Santee's point. You couldn't just read it like it was background noise. I saw many people go up against Santee and walk away thinking they had won the encounter when in fact they had taken the most severe of thrashings without even realizing it. I admired and respected that ability in Santee, and always handled his responses with due caution when he engaged me directly.

I will miss his presence here greatly. He is one of the first names that became recognizable to me in the Tech Republic forums, and along with Palmetto, his posts were always my favorite to read.

by charliespencer

"It took genuine thought and effort to get Santee's point."

I always thought his style was a bit of a test. If you couldn't get his point, you probably weren't able to hold up your end of the debate. Gods know there were plenty of times he sailed far over my head, leaving me both admiring and frustrated.

I shall treasure being mentioned in the same sentence.

by Member 19291532

"I always thought his style was a bit of a test. If you couldn't get his point, you probably weren't able to hold up your end of the debate."

And those of us who are intellectual warriors at debate here on TR were frequently left scratching our heads and trying to figure out what he was driving at.

My favorite Santee tactic - where he would attack the logic or reason of a point or claim I had made, but my actual opponent would misunderstand and take it as a personal attack on themselves, effectively *defending* me and arguing against themselves in the process.

The fear one would leave with after seeing that happen was,

"What it Santee has done that to ME and I just didn't realize it!"

:)

by Wizard57M-TR

I'll miss his corrections of my deplorable butchery of the English language,
along with his insights into technology.
Rest in peace...
Wiz

by tigger_two

I realize that there is an age at which you lose people at alarming rates. I always thought that I would be so much older when that began...

I'm so tired of losing people...

Requiescat in pace, my friend.

by deepsand

ever since I heard the news yesterday.

At the rate they've been falling during my first 65 years, I am not looking forward to what the next 40 will bring.

by nicknielsen

You, me, Tig, Palmetto, Max, Colin, James, jd, and others, still [verbally] duking it out on TR. From our wheelchairs. B-)

[Old guy voice] Assuming, of course, there's still a TR... :D

Edit: WTF? Forgot Oz.

by tigger_two

I'm so glad to see you- even in crap circumstances.

It occurred to me recently that the lion's share of the people I interact with are people I have either never met or only seen once or twice. It also occurred to me that it hurts just as much to lose an online friend as someone I've seen daily. Sometimes more.

In the past three years, I've lost both parents, my husband, my aunt, and nearly a dozen friends. I've had enough. NO ONE here is allowed to die, dammit! Not one of you. Period.

by maxwell edison

It's been well over a month, maybe closer to two, when I last logged into TR. The reasons for my absence are many, one of which (albeit a small one) is Santee. No explanation is necessary for those who understand; no explanation is possible for those who don't. I'm sure Santee would see both the humor and the irony in this - that it's because of him that I now log in.

I've often posted links to some song as a response to something or other, and I once posted one to which Santee replied in a most rare, plain-spoken manner. He really liked the song, he simply told me as much, and thanked me for posting it; I think he called it a gem.

It's one of my favorite songs; it has a great - and, perhaps, a most appropriate - message; and Santee really liked it.

So, I raise a glass of scotch, and I play it again for Santee - and for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EI2of1PTW4

(I hope I got all that punctuation right!)

by jamesrl

In that scotch...second night in a row, I'm sure he would approve.

I will post something I've posted before....I sang this for Rememberence day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJS9h09yGEY

Do not stand at my grave and weep,
I am not there; I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow,
I am the diamond glints on snow,
I am the sun on ripened grain,
I am the gentle autumn rain.
When you awaken in the morning???s hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circling flight.
I am the soft starlight at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry,
I am not there; I did not die.

by steffi28

Cant believe he's gone, he always managed to make me smile, and on occasions bloody well confuse the hell outta me haha

by steffi28

he probably did, he had the ability to make me feel dumb but not in a bad way in a way that kinda makes you feel in awe of his knowledge, he was a fun guy :)

by hippiekarl

Thanks for telling me what I was trying to say, as well; I'm going to miss your ascerbic wit around here....

by deepsand

the Whole Sick Crew.

(Okay; so I stole that from Pynchon's [i]V[/i]. Sue me.)

Seems oddly appropriate, in light of Time's review of the time.

[quote]In this sort of book, there is no total to arrive at. Nothing makes any waking sense. But it makes a powerful, deeply disturbing dream sense. Nothing in the book seems to have been thrown in arbitrarily, merely to confuse, as is the case when inept authors work at illusion. Pynchon appears to be indulging in the fine, pre-Freudian luxury of dreams dreamt for the dreaming. The book sails with majesty through caverns measureless to man. What does it mean? Who, finally, is V.? Few books haunt the waking or the sleeping mind, but this is one. Who, indeed?[/quote]

by charliespencer

I want the one with each half of a split keyboard mounted on the arms; ASDF on the left, JKL; on the right.

Sandy, the masthead for Mad Magazine includes the phrase, "Contributing artists and writers - the usual gang of idiots"

by gsg

is to be in the nursing home with my geeky peeps. We'll set up a raid, where some of us will distract the nurses, some will hack the medication dispensing machine, and the ones who can walk will remove the "good stuff" and share it out with the team.

Sort of a geriatric mission impossible.

by tigger_two

Given the rate at which senility is taking over the lion's share of my cognitive functioning, I will need more than a self destructing audio tape to successfully complete my part of the mission.

Cue cards at a minimum, I think. Really BIG cue cards.

by jamesrl

Of course if TR dissapears, most of us are on Facebook....except Palmy, not sure about Max. And some of the dissapeared are there as well.

by pgit

to family and friends. A wordsmith and philosopher has departed our midst.

by jfuller05

I'm a rookie here at TR. Santee was one of the first members I noticed in the discussion boards. I lurked for a long time, trying to learn the tone and "rules" of the DBs. Santee was definitely one of my favorite TR people and he probably didn't even know it. We talked a few times here on TR. Direct and indirect conversations with him had me checking the meaning of words, learning new ones and then using those words in written and oral conversation with others.

He will be missed by many.

by jamesrl

Slightly less cryptic perhaps but not a talkative type. It takes all kinds of course.

Some of us bonded right away, others gradually. Some stayed on the periphery.

Shelley and I had met before. JD, Ganyssa and I drove down together. Toni and Soni and I had corresponded on articles. Santee wasn't part of the late night drinking crowd. You had to get to know him over time. A few people actually emailled me a few times to explain what he had posted about me before I began to understand his comments on my posts.

by nicknielsen

Even now, I have to browse some of the longer threads to figure out what's going on.

Then I forget what I was going to post... :-(

by markp24

too bad i never got to discuss anythign with him :-( he obviously was a great person.
Will miss his posts.

by maxwell edison

Former TR peers:

I'm ever so sorry to hear that yet another TR member has passed, especially when considering the circumstances.

Santee and I butted heads like a pair of mountain goats on "the brown acid" [i](watch Woodstock for reference)[/i], whether due to misunderstanding or simply due to a difference of opinion, the former being most common. A linguist he certainly was, even if 1000 or more years past his time.

Being English myself, I always have issues with those who can't speak English...to my personal liking at least, however, Santee was always an exception to that rule. Instead of irritating me with his poor use of grammar, I often found myself frustrated by his superior abilities as a true wordsmith.

For the longest time, I thought he wasn't making any sense at all, seemingly speaking in tongues. The few times I actually understood the meaning of his jumbled, cryptic fashion[i] (at least I thought I got the general gist of it)[/i], I began to appreciate his comments, having finally understood them, and would ever so enjoy his banter.

While I have been away from "the trenches", so to speak, due to actions of TR staff, I have grown to respect many of those who often riled me to the point of being blinded to their true meaning, Santee being one of them; perhaps a better way to be, absence makes the heart grow fonder.

Rest in peace, Santee, I know you will be sorely missed by so many and remembered so fondly by the same.

I wish everyone on the TR Forums all the best in their futures in these, ever so gradually recovering, economic times. It's been a long, tough road for so many and I'm sure it will continue to be so for some time yet. It's nice to hear that you have all stuck together and helped keep each other's spirits up as so very few digital communities do.

OzMedia

"...banging my head on some mad buggers wall"

- END POST -

I can't comment on the reasons Oz had for asking me to post this for him.