Which school is better?

The cram sessions will not teach you how to hold a job in the field.

Either buy a book and study, or sign up for technical training sessions that have real hands on learning.

Also, get an entry level job so you are working with the technology as you learn the details of it.

The people that go to the bootcamps to buy a cert are generally useless once they get a job, and make everyone else in the field look bad. Don't join the rank of the useless.

Are bootcamps that bad?!?!?!
But if I were to choose which school is the best of the two?!

"I can't do online learning because I'm more a hands on person. . . I need to actually SEE what's going on!"

My experiences with boot camps have been that you don't see much of anything, asides from a lot of questions that vary from the actual exam by just enough as not to get the training facilities in trouble with the vendors.

With the money you'd spend on a boot camp, you'd be better off going online, procuring the equipment to make yourself a testing lab, buying books/e-learning courses, and then paying for the exam fees. That way, at least you could say you had some hands-on experience.

If you're still dead set on the boot camp route, choose the place that gives you a 100% guarantee. If you fail the test the first (or second, or third) time, they'll let you retake it.

Doesn't say anything to what you'll learn, but learning isn't the point with these places; the paper is.

As Palmy said, bootcamps are for brushup.

If you need to LEARN the subject matter, it will be too much, too fast, and a waste of time/money no matter which you go to.

those places are NOT the place to actually learn something....stick to the Technical/Community Colleges where you get hands on experience.

Geez.....I thought they just cut your hours a couple weeks ago....do you think it's just going to be a short term thing?

Who cares....

They are only after your cash. I've heard that at night they sneak into your room and

that you should agree.... :p

Actually any school will, such certs,m while seemignly important to some in some ocuntries, are the absolute basic foundations of IT. You're vest off finding a job doing that sort of entry level work, for a small firm without the certs and then taking that experience into school and a more useful certification.

Why pay to cut your teeth when yuo can be paid to do it instead?

It takes drive, digging through teh yellow pages and choosing small business where you think you could get a start, calling the BOSS and asking him/her to help you get started. The'll get you enough experience in house and will probably even sponsor you continuing school and gettign worthwhile certs too.

I've known people who actually went to the bootcamp to learn.

It's if you go there to just get the paper, or in the case you think that anyone can plug years of experience in your head in 2-3 weeks...well...then you're there for the wrong reasons.

I still balk when I hear the term ".NET". I still think that W3C and ARIC and others should have sued Microsoft...just like the World Wildlife Foundation did World Wrestling Federation back in the 1990s.

.NET was an internet standard before it was a Microsoft keyword.

but likes to try to argue about what time it is....

to finish up work on the house and then get out and find something better.

Side jobs are enough to make ends meet for a few months even without filing for unenjoyment, so not going to go under.

It will make Christmas a little tighter though.

I want to be a surgeon, OK

There are boot camps that will teach me everything I need in 4 weeks!

Now, once I pass the camp can I operate on you?

Last night I was watching the commercial for 'The Perfect Brownie' a super duper brownie pan with the 12 brownie auto slicer system.

"WOWSERS" I THOUGHT, "I MUST GET ONE!!!"

Well not really, the product can be seen here:https://www.perfectbrownie.ca/?cid=698369

Note the pitch, "If you can make ice cubes, you can use the Perfect Brownie pan!"

As it is so fats and hyper, it makes people subconciously, and thus conciously, believe taht makign brownies is as easy as makign ice cubes!

However, USING THE PAN is as easy as making ice cubes, not making the damn brownies.

The human race is not as smart as many like to dream it is, our sight is inadequate and easily fooled. Our reactions, sense of smell, touch, taste etc. are also inferior to many animals we consider stupid too.

As a result, people don't realize hwo easily they are fooled and they buy into marketing hype. It's SO easy to sell to people on ideas and concepts without telling lies, you just have to have them believe one thing which is true and, if carefully presented, they think it means what it really doesn't.

Some knob said Vista was horrific and listed several reasons why, each reason flawed and incorrect in most ways of ocurse, then others just start repeating the same lies over and over again until they believe it.

Face it we are all consumers but so many are so easily fooled. I think we all get screwed eventually, I know I've been market dazzled made some dumb choics in my time too, but you start getting wiser and more aware of the tricks of marekting, which still drag in others in droves.

Despite everything we've battled out lately, it's just online venting and I've always considered you a decent guy and I know how tough it can get out there in that damn con-game we call life.

fingers crossed for a better tomorrow, always.

Or within driving distance that offers any computer courses? Nothing?

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Don't know if you have selected a school already but if not, then you should seriously consider CED. I am currently attending the MCSE 2003 Boot Camp and definitely getting my money's worth. I was concerned whether they would simply teach you to pass the test or actually teach you the information. After my first day, those concerns were put to rest very quickly. My instructor is well qualified and will make sure you have a full understanding of "how things work". I will definitely attend additional courses at CED since they have shown me their desire to put the student first.

no matter what school, being in school learning is the most important.

I am currently attending a bootcamp at CED getting my MCPD, this is an 8 exam certification and in my opinion CED tops. You are well prepared and the environnment is friendly.