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Hi

I have found nasty problem in WinXP recently. From couple of days, few of programs starts paging heavily which resulted in slow performance. I want to get rid of this problem ultimately but i cant find the way that how can i back at pace.

Can anybody suggest me the easy & quick way?

Thanks & regards

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by hal 9000

On the HDD.

Run Defrag often to clean up the HDD and don't leave the computer running continuously as it will cause memory leakage to occur.

Col

by ideaddict

Hi HAL 9000

I am using that OS since last 8 months & it often ran for 10-15 days continuously but never involved in such problem before & as well my all HDD approximately full most of the time as i download too much data from internet.

Therefore, i think there should be some malicious activity happen during website exploring.

I don?t want to reinstall windows & want my pace back.

One thing more I cant able to use system restore as no previous date is enabled.

Anyway thanks for giving me your precious time & reply.

I hope if you'll find the real cause you'll promptly contact me.

Rissvann

by hal 9000

Move some to some other storage media or to an external HDD connected via a USB Port.

With the HDD nearing capacity you get restricted Page File activity which slows down dramatically the ability of the system to work as it was designed to do. Just because you have so much space available doesn't mean that you can use it all and maintain performance. Think of it like a car that can carry 2 tons of cargo it's can actually carry that much weight but it will take much longer to reach speed than if it was half full and a lot longer to slow down full as apposed to empty.

If you need to download large amounts of data off the net and you can not come anywhere near the volume that I download I have 8 X 400 GIG External Drives with less than 3% free space on them that are only turned on when I need something on that drive. I started off with 200 GIG Drives and have increased the size as I needed more space. When the 750 GIG drives get cheaper I'll be moving over to those as it will save a slight amount of space on my desktop and give me more storage space that I can use.

Whenever one of the HDD gets more than 80% full it starts to slow down and the longer that the system is used the slower things will be as that drive becomes more fragmented and continually slowing the system down further.

If you have lots of free space you can do as I do and leave the systems running indefinitely but the more room that you use on the HDD above a certain point the slower the system will become.

If you don't want to go with external Drives in USB Caddies you can add another internal HDD to your existing machine and move some data across from the primary HDD to free up some space though you'll be limited in the possible size that you can fit by the Computers BIOS upper size limit but that will cure your problem till you manage to fill up both drives again.

For Spy Ware Cleaners you can use these two the first is Ad Aware Se and is safe to use though it should be run in [b]Safe Mode[/b] to make sure that it picks up everything and removes it totally. After run once you always need to run again to make sure that you've actually removed the offending files and that there was noting else hiding under them

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Then this one is very good but you need to be careful

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Spy Bot S&D is capable of picking up some programs that you are using things like Windows Defender and On Line Banking applications are the common ones as well as some downloaded software so if you see something that you are using you need to untick it from the removal list and then remove the rest.

As stated previously always run Spy Ware Scans in [b]Safe Mode[/b] and remember to run them several times to make sure that you've actually got everything. If you look at some application that you think that you need keep a count of the number of listings of it each time that you scan and you may decide that as this application grows in installed entries that it's not such a good program after all and needs to be removed.

Col

by w2ktechman

delete temp files in c:\temp, %systemroot%\temp, and the profile. Delete unwanted files in %systemroot%\prefetch, remove startup applications that are not needed, and empty trash. scan for spyware/malware/virus, etc.. Run a defrag (as suggested), and make sure that you have plenty of HDD space available (as suggested).
After this you should see a noteable difference. If not then we may need to get more drastic.

by ideaddict

Hi w2ktechman!

First of all, thanks for the reply & suggestion. I did all what you said except prefetch instruction because i cant able to identify unwanted files. With the reference of Hals valuable suggestions i also want to inform you that "I am using that OS since last 8 months & it often ran for 10-15 days continuously but never involved in such problem before & as well my all HDD approximately full most of the time as i download too much data from internet."

So, that shouldnt be case, which Hals suggested; & after applying your instruction, i have still facing same problem.

I am including images of Task Manager at two different times with a difference of approximately 1 minute, that tell you the story whats going on my pc.

Here is first one:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/593/tm021740or7.jpg
& Second one:
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3618/tm021810yv8.jpg

Look at these images & see the difference of Page Faults.

Now what you think? whats going on?

Thanks & Regards

by w2ktechman

The prefetch folder items should not be a problem. I recommend cleaning them out periodically (everything). Basically it loads part of every application that you have used in the past (even if only once) into memory. Clearing it out just means that the next time these apps open they will take a few seconds longer. But, it wont load all the other programs that have been used until you open them again.

Mailnotifier.exe if it is not part of a downloaded and purposely installed program, may be spyware. Also, it seems to be a memory hog for what it does.

Both IE and FF being used? if you are using FF, try not opening IE, as it is eating lots of Memory as well.

Looks like a bunch of things may be in startup, try removing them from the startup menu and having them set on manual open.

Getright.exe -- Possible worm -- run anti-spyware and AV with latest defs.

Turn off the IIS service unless needed.

With the getright and mailnotifier showing up 2x, I am assuming both are spyware. Google the cleaning instructions and remove them. Then look into obtaining and scanning with Lavasofts ad-aware, Spybot Search and Destroy, SpywareBlaster, and/or others to help prevent further problems.

My suggestion though would be to rebuild the system and make it safer before browsing and downloading.

by consortech99

ZoneAlarm 7.0 has a great management tool to remove unwanted temp files and removes adware. I have found in the past with zonealarm is an excelent tool to address this kind of issue for new users.

by ideaddict

Thanks consortech99.

This looks like a valuable support. But can you tell me the real cause of that problem?

In my view its happened due to some virus like stuff, are you agreed or not?

Best Regards

P.S. I just downloaded ZA 7.0 & installed it, i'll let you inform later about what happenned.

by toivo talikka

Have you installed any new applications in the last few days? Microsoft Windows Defender comes to mind because when it starts its scheduled scan, XP slows down considerably.

Do you run both an anti-virus and anti-spyware application? It is good to scan the whole system outside hours to prevent viruses and spyware. Especially spyware is known to slow down the system because normally you do not just get one spyware application but a number of them and they can bring the system to a grinding halt.

Before you install an anti-spyware application, check that it is trustworthy from the list maintained at www.spywarewarrior.com.

Other factors that may have an impact are the deframentation of the hard drive which I do not think is that significant afterall. You may want to clear the temporary files and limit the size of the folder storing the temporary internet files to say 10MB.

On the other hand, most of the applications in the last couple of years have been updated to bigger and better but not necessarily faster, including Windows itself. If a couple of browser windows are open with half a dozen tabs each, oops and 100MB of memory is gone and 512MB RAM is not enough to run applications efficiently.

by ideaddict

Thanks Talikka

This is most detailed analysis of problem, But only 'viruses & spyware' point is looking close to the solution. Why i am saying is because "I am using that OS since last 8 months & it often ran for 10-15 days continuously but never involved in such problem before & as well my all HDD approximately full most of the time as i download too much data from internet. Beside that i never deleted temp internet files & temp files. And i also used to open 2-3 browsers (Firefox, Netscape & IE) & 50-60 tabs at time. Its not a joke as i need to copy stuff from various forums which have 1000 of topics"

Now you can realized that its neither a defragmentation issue nor a temp issue. Its like some malicious activity entered in my windows which made my OS slow.

I am including images of Task Manager at two different times with a difference of approximately 1 minute, that tell you the story whats going on my pc.

Here is first one:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/593/tm021740or7.jpg
& Second one:
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3618/tm021810yv8.jpg

Look at these images & see the difference of Page Faults. Actually the top down software starts paging heavily which cause the real problem. And i dont know how its happened & how i resolve it?

Please suggest

Best Regards

Rissvann

by toivo talikka

I had a quick look at the counts on my PC:

- an anti-virus process 38M
- svchost 34M
- firefox 22M
- explorer 4M

I think your counts look quite normal. The paging numbers may indicate that it is time to add more RAM to the computer.

You have two instances of rapget.exe which is used for file sharing. Is it sharing or do you just download?

by ideaddict

Thanks bob_steel

You are amazing person, you solve my problem in just only one sentence :).

Suggest me which one is best?

Are you pointing towards Linux??

And for the time being i dont want it to switch as am working in an office & so much complication arises if i try that.

Best Regards

Ali Rissvann

by ideaddict

Thanks & i will try it later but sounds good

Regards

by ideaddict

Hi Talikka!

I now getting confused as i also checked a colleague pc & its a server which running from month ago, but the maximum page faults value was '8060694' while i have maximum value of '39106948' in just 10 hours.

Rapget is downloading software specially designed for paid services like rapidshare.com & megaupload.com. And i was deliberately running that two instances.

Now i am in dilemma whether paging is the cause or something else bothering me.

I am frustrated & seriously thinking to reinstall windows. I am very grateful to you & all other fellows who advised me & try to solve this problem.

Lot of thanks & Regards

Rissvann

by ideaddict

Hi w2ktechman

No doubt your?s advised best among the others' advises. Mailnotifier is presumably not a spyware as I am using it to notification of my different emails account. Whereas getright is download manager & possibly working as spyware or adware type thing. But believe me it never slow down my pc before.

The suggestion you gave me is what I am looking seriously for now. Can you tell me the steps of perfect installation? I?ll go in that way:
1. OS Installation (Win XP)
2. Antivirus Installation (Norton Antivirus Corporate Edition)
3. Firewall Installation (Zone Alarm 6.0)
4. Spyware / Adware Installation (Ad-Aware SE ? Lavasoft)
5. Backup Software (Norton Ghost)
6. Other Softwares

At the end very much grateful for all of your valuable time & support that you provided me.

Best Regards

Rissvann

by w2ktechman

on my last new system ( a few months ago). But usually I use images.

First, from a different system, obtain all of the latest critical updates for XP, including SP2, put hem on a cd. Get a copy of Ghost, AV and have them ready. Download Antispyware, and updated definitions, and firewall. Put them on a cd.

Second, install the OS, but do not connect it to the Internet.

Third, install OS updates, Firewall, AV, and AS. Update the products from cd. Configure as needed.

Fourth, Connect to the Internet, update everything again to be sure.

After that you can install your main apps, configure email and other apps. When done use Ghost (or another drive cloner) to create an image of your system to go back to if needed. Store the image on cd/dvd/external HDD, etc..

by ideaddict

Hi again!

I think the procedure you tell here is absolutely excellent. I note it down & will follow what you said whenever i need to reinstall or fresh installation.

Thanks Again with Best Regards

P.S.: I reinstalled windows & its working fine till now :)

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