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by thump21

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I hope this doesn't sound chauvinistic, it's not meant to be.

There are many factors involved for why there are so few women in IT, the smart-girl as a negative, few role models, guidance to other careers, etc. but the actual root of it is much simpler. Men are generally thinkers, problem solvers, "thing"-people, while women are emotional creatures, nurturing, they are "people"-people. They tend to collect in database administration because such a thing requires management/care-taking, but it's hard to think of coding a program as the act of "nurturing". It's much closer to a "solve the puzzle and go to the next level" exercise, like so many video games.

So this starts at a young age. Girls will play video games to have "fun". Boys will play video games to prove they can "conquer".

That's my take anyway.

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by shellbot

some sweeping generalisations there..

from someone who couldn't manage to post this in the thread it belongs in???

by jck

I think u need this, Shell...

(((((((((((((((((((((((((( Hugs ))))))))))))))))))))))))))

I know...it's not in the right thread. :^0

by shellbot

I was way too easy on him...
I mean for g0ds sake...if ya can't even manage to click a dang reply button in a thread..

maybe I'm just cranky today...

oh..actually working on yer CV!

by shellbot

I just seen "nurtureing" and "database administration" and though WTF rock did this guy crawl out from under???

Its amazing, in this day and age that people like this still exist.

Yes, women CAN be more nurturing, but that has nothing to do with freaking IT. Ok, I'm incredibly protective about my databases, but its not because they are my children and I have to nurture them to adulthood or something..its because if they crash and burn its MY @ss on the line.. I have a job to do, I am paid to keep them up and running, thats it, end of the story.

as my brother would say, what a "meegit"

by jck

to paraphrase Val Kilmer's line from Tombstone:

"We stand corrected, Shell. You're an oak." ;)

(if you haven't seen that movie, you have to...)

by charliespencer

I'll bet it was easier on your knuckles before we paved everything. You must have some impressive calluses from dragging them on the asphalt.

by shellbot

when i seen the title..
then sadly, i read the content....
got too annoyed to attempt to be funny...

:D

by santeewelding

There is a slice of one thing in the title, and a contradictory slice of another thing in your last line.

What's in the middle goes to make up a shilt sandwich.

by slayer_

Best I can tell, the only female gamers are Asian, and they are usually awesome. If they are non-Asian, they are so-so or terrible players.

How is that for a generalization? Both sexist and racist coupled into one.

by slayer_

What is Crass?

Wiki:
Crass were an English punk band, formed in 1977,[1][2] which promoted anarchism as a political ideology, way of living, and as a resistance movement.

by jck

Dude...

I played this game called Shadowbane that was a Wolfpack Studios/Ubisoft game that came out in 2003-2004.

Girls I knew playing that were from all sorts of backgrounds: Norwegian, Japanese, Polish, American, etc.

One girl was this Jewish girl from New Jersey, owned her own gifts shop, and played when she got bored during the days it was slow. And when you chatted in Vent/TS with her, she sounded so sweet and demure.

And if you met her in game, she would KICK YOUR BUTT. :^0

by jck

The Sleeping Dictionary...aka - Jessica Alba....

hubba hubba ]:) :^0

by slayer_

Just Asians. I really dont understand. Is their brain wired different for quicker reflexes? Or is it because of the male mentality that exists in those places that makes it encouraging to do boy like things such as play video games.

by nexs

Apparently, video games promote violence, and perhaps the Asian world wants to turn their children into miniature armed forces?

by jck

they all saw a headshot of Ron jeremy and thought:

"if that's what the women look like in western porn, I'll keep working in the factory." :^0

by maecuff

thinkers and problem solvers?

I'm not saying that they aren't, but wtf makes you think that women aren't problem solvers? That is quite possibly the most stupid thing I've heard this year.

I am so tired of the whole 'emotional' bullsh*t. First of all, all humans have emotions. Do men and women express them differently? Sure. Even better, I would say that all humans express them differently, it's not gender specific. Men are just as emotional as women. Ever watch professional sports? Don't you think men's emotions run pretty high??

One can be logical and emotional. They are not mutually exclusive.

I've been writing code for 20 years. And I nuture my children. One doesn't have to be sacrificed for the other. To suggest otherwise is just ignorant.

by brenton keegan

I can understand how stuff like this is like "you can't be as good at your job as a man could" which is just insulting.

On the flip side, treating men as if they are emotionally numb and relationally ignorant is also frustrating.

Men and women think differently though. If you try to tell me they don't, I've got some years of dating experience that says otherwise.

by notsochiguy

I had an argument with my wife last night over not doing the dishes in a timely enough manner. I printed this off, handed it to her, and said "see, I could be worse".

She's been exceptionally loving and grateful ever since!

:)

by charliespencer

If you'd done the dirty dishes, you probably would have 'done the dirty deed', too. That's the way it works in our house.

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