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Why do individual Windows 2000 Professional work stations show as multiple logins on an NT 4.0 server? Even a work station with only one user shows as three separate and distinct logins, using three of the licenses we have. Another work station has two user names with one for local and one for network access. This work station shows up as eight distinct logins using up another eight of the licenses we have.

With only a ten user NT license, these new work stations can really lock up the system.

Why does this happen when only one user ID is being logged in?

Thanks,
Ande

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by bcboc

I think its because you have the local machine's network administrator, the userid, and probably the default or allusers.
Could be someone logging onto the machine remotely?
You didn't indicate the users logged on (for instance do the names havethe same format for user naming conventions?)

by timwalsh

There are several MS KnowledgeBase articles that may relate to your situation:

License Logging Service Decrements Licenses for Machine Accounts (Q300930)

Windows NT 4.0 Clients Take Multiple Terminal Services CALs (Q291936)

Several TerminalServices CALs Appear to Have the Same Computer Name (Q251386)

Another resolution may be to change from the Server Licensing mode to the Per Seat licensing mode. You can even turn off (and disable) the License Logging service. There is no requirement to run it in order to have NT 4 work properly.

Hope this helps.

by andeanderson

I've been through all of the MS Knowledge Base Articles and none of them address this issue. Maybe we're the only ones with less than 5 licenses per work station?

by gigelul

Check which licensing method is good for you, or (you can find descriptions in help file of License Manager). Per seat is more better but you must have a number of CAL's equal with number of computers.
About your problem: inper seat you can manage licenses by grouping all licenses from a computer with Advanced options\new license group in License Manager (personal I made 2 groups: one for all admin accounts and one for all domain users and I set for these groups a no. of licenses equal with no. of computers). Also per seat don't limit you and allow more workstation than no. of licenses.
Per server is an economical way but hard to manage.

by andeanderson

With no one else on the system and no remote logins even allowed.

If I login the one W2k work station the NT 4.0 Server will show there are eight distinct logins with a single User ID. And, if I login my work station, which only has my User ID- not even an administrator account, the NT Server shows three distinct logins.

If I try to disconnect just one of the logins all of the logins from the individual work stations are disconnected? Yet the NT Server treats them as individual logins for licensing purposes.

by gigelul

No matter what you see in event log important is what you see in License manager. Follow suggestions from answer3

by gigelul

It is a documented answer. I had the same problem and I speak at phone with our regional Microsoft representative. This is the solution they give me.

by andeanderson

Thanks, but changing the licensing will not answer why W2K shows multiple logins for one machine on an NT Server. It will also increase the headaches for maintaining a small user network.

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