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What would be the best way to network 2 Win98 machines in a home environment. One PC has a cable connection to the internet. Both PCs have NICs and RJ45 cable has been run and connected and now the other PC has web access through this one modem. My question is now how do I get the other PC to be able to print to the printer connected to the first PC. I tried direct cable but there doesn't seem to be an option to use the NIC. Do I have to install NT Server on one PC? Any suggestions is appreaciated.

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by don christner

Make sure that you have your networking setup to client for MS networks, that they both use the same workgroup name and that you want to share printers. Then on the computer with the printer, go into printer properties and share the printer. Then onthe other computer, add a printer (choosing network printer and pointing to the shared printer) and you'll be able to print.

Make sure that you have a good firewall because your computers will act as servers to the world! Most cable providers do not include a good firewall. You can download a free firewall from www.grc.com and see just how much of your computer is open to attack.

Don

by kristina

Client for MS Networks is set up. Changed workgroup so that they were both the same and the networking part still doesn't work. Also, cannot connect both PCs to the web at the same time.

by paul majestic

The best way would really be to buy a hub and some cat 5 patch cables. The hub would a llow you to add more computers to your network in the furture with much ease. Another option would be to get a single crossover cable and connect that to the NIC in each machine. You can then use certain network components to allow the two machines to communicate. The printer on the one machine justs needs to have the printer shared to allow access from any other machine on the network.

by ian mclaws

Since you're already sharing Internet, you already have your home network established, so no need for more hardware (hub, x-overs, etc)
To enable one system to use the others printer, you must have
1. The client for Microsoft Networks
2. A protocol in common with both systems (you do....TCP)
3. File and print sharing enabled on both systems if you want both to be able to connect to each other (or, on the print server if all you need is to print)
4. A NIC (as you said, you do)
Check your network properties for these four, then right cl;ick on the printer (on the print server), share the printer. On the second system, click add printer just like normal, but choose "network server" instead of Local Device". This will give you a browse screen that lets you choose the printer you want from the network.
As far as the other point made by answer 2,if you do not want to use a firewall, simply disable "file and print sharing" on the bindings tab in your TCP/IP (shared)properties, (your Internet connection". This stops most hackers flat.

Good luck,

Ian

by vertex

Your present setup indicate that you have a cable modem, 2 pcs, NICs. If your cable modem is connected to your first PC, how do you connect the second PC to your first PC? I'm a liitle bit ignorant on hardware but don't you connect your cable modem to your PC using an RJ45 or do you use a USB connector? Anyway given the scenario, assuming that you connect your cable modem via NIC and RJ45, you'll need another NIC on your first PC to connect to the second PC. You'll need crossover cable for that. At network properties you'll need to have TCP/IP and share your Files/Printer enable. If you want to share the cable modem, you'll need to have ICS or some other software suggested in previous posting. The easier but much more expensive method is by using a router. Router such as Linksys, SMC Barricade acts like a hub as well. It's easy to set up and has room for further expansion in the future.

by vertex

Saw your comments on Ans.2, so you do have a hub. This will be tricky for sharing the cable modem connection. You'll still need 2 NICs on your main PC which will act as a server. One of the NIC will be connected to your modem and the other to your hub. You don't need crossover cable for the connection to your hub. As for file/printer sharing if you can do that on TCP/IP try adding Netbeui for Microsoft Networking. You'll still need ICS or Internet Connection Sharing software. Win 98 comes with ICS, it's a little bit complicated to set that up but most people prefer using 3rd party software. Not sure if you'll need to setup DNS and etc.,cos that would depend on how you connect to your ISP. This is one reason why I opt for a router in my home networking.

by rwlap

I would suggest looking at the Linksys Etherfast Cable/DSL Router, Model BEFSR41, which will allow connection to the cable, serve as a firewall, and have both PC's connected, sharing printers, internet, etc.
Take a look at www.computers4SURE.com which has the vaious routers listed and at decent pricing. I currently use this particular model with DSL in the scenario you speak of.
Good luck.

by grump

First PC must have FILE and Print Sharing enabled. In the control panel PRINTERS make sure you are sharing you printer on the first PC. You will have to intall the printer on the second PC but not on LPT1 pick Network printer. and follow the promptsfor installing printers.

I assume you already have your home networking in operation. If you want the First PC to access and Files on the second you will have to inable File sharing.

In the event you want to add additional pc to you home network then you will need a hub and another cable.

Good luck,
GRUMP

by admin

I am a little perplexed by some of these answers. This is really easy actually.
There is no (I repeat NO) special setting for the printer in printer control panel when you first get it going. No "NIC" setting. just set it as a regular printer firstand get it printing on the machine it's hooked to.
Now follow these steps:
1) Right click on the "Network" icon on your desktop.

2) Go to "properties"

3) Left click the "File and Print Sharing" bar on this page.

4) Make sure "I want to beable to allow others to print to my printers" is checked, if not, check it, click ok, click ok to get out of the network dialogue -then reboot your computer.

5) Go to "Start" "Settings" "Printers" and find the printer you want to share.

6) Right click on the icon of the printer you want to share.

7)Go to "Sharing" on this menu.

8) Check "Shared As" and remember or change the printer name to something you can remember. You should see a little hand appear under the icon of your printer as you back out of these menus.

9)Now go to the remote computer you want to use the printer from. Go to "Start" "Settings" "Printers" and click on "Add Printer"

10)Go through the wizard, click "Network" instead of local. Under "Network Path or Queue Name" hit "Browse" find the name of your printer in this menu and continue through the wizard the rest of the way, print out a test page, and there you have it :)

If you get stuck, just e-mail me :)

by admin

Hi,

Got your message :)

Ok, you actually have a network problem that precedes your printer problem.
E-mail me back again and let me know what protocols you are using and what
settings you have in them. These should show up in your network properties
between "Client for MS Networks" and "File and Print Sharing". Probably
TCP/IP, IPX/SPX, and/or NetBuei. The settings for the protocols you are
using would help too.
Also, check device manager (if you haven't already) and make sure there is
not a red exclaimation mark or yellow question mark next to your Network
card. E-mail me back the info and we'll go from there :)

by uellem

If none of the above answers work for you, use Wingate. Visit wingate.com and have your two computers browse the Internet simultaneously. This would also be a good solution to your difficulties in sharing printers.

Wingate is easy to setup and easy to use.

by lloyd

after installing modem sharing you will have to be using static ip address's on both pc's.
the master pc will share the printer no problem at the cost of hackers dream via tcp/ip (no firewall etc.) you can setup netbeui and remove the bindings off of the tcp/ip protocol. i have installed many of these cofigurations. 2 x win98 pc 1 x internal modem (56k) and 1 x laserjet 2100

only issues i have found is with ms fax installed as well. please e-mail me if any trouble and i will call you and help if poss.

by philando

All this headache when you could easily get a cable/dsl router for under $100 (I saw CompUsa selling one for $79). The router supports dynamic ip addressing, DHCP, Firewall, etc (Really simple). Set your two machines to same workgrp. Add File/Print sharing to your network config. Setup printer to work locally on one machine.

FYI: If you have two win explorer windows open side by side, browse to the printer from the remote machine (one with printer not installed),drag a file and drop it on the printer it will walk you thru the setup to map it.

by carryon

You can, buy setting up printer and file sharing in your network neighborhood for PC 1. Then restart your pc. Once restarted then go to add printer in control panel and tell it to connect over LAN then tell it what local port it is located on PC 2.Making sure that you have enabled Priter sharing which can be found by right Clicking on your default Printer on PC 1 then it will down load a small piece of Printer software to PC 2 and the You should be able to print share

Let me know if this is explained ok for you to Understand.

Bob

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