53 replies
by jdclyde
Is the company looking to clear out old equipment that is no longer useful and is costing them to store, or are they looking to sell off assets?
If the first, I would recommend an open house for employees first. Put everything on tables with numbers next to them and do a silent bid or just give it away. You get a lot of good will out of this. Just limit how much anyone can take until everyone has had a chance.
Donate to a local charity and get a tax write-off.
by gaijinit
Search the web,and you can find technical schools and universities in other less well-financed countries who will many times be willing to pay for the shipping and tax clearances (since you are giving them away, the taxable value to them is basically zero).
Many students in these countries only learn technical subjects from books because their schools can not afford equipment - they will take anything,and sometimes your company can get a tax break (maybe? - not sure).
Anyway, you will be doing good, and recycling inthe best way.
by nacromancer
But before you attempt to donate any computer equipment better do what ever upgrades to it that would allow the equipment to be functional again in a school or a hospital. Most will not even accespt it unless it is totally functional.
And as far as donating the stuff to a small impoverished country eg; universities in South Africa, ya better check with the US Government first before attempting to export any technology. They have strict embargo's on computer technology being donated or sold to anyone outside the US. I know this for fact by experience. I sent several older servers and complete work stations to a friend in Australia to help him get his small business running, that equipment was confiscated by US Customs as soon as they got word of what was going out. It took a year and a half to get them to release the items for export, and by then my friend's business was shut down.
Eventually he was able to restart the business but by then everything I sent him was no good to him. So a word of warning, The US commerce Department does not like technological competition being exported. Even if the country is an ally.
And now adays even if you were to buy a digital LCD Monitor from Dell here in the US you have to signafy the fact you will not attempt to export the monitor outside of the country. You can not even take the stupid thing down to Mexico for use during a vacation. Laptops, cell phones, PDA's, tablet PC's, and the like are only allowed, but NOT recommended. Criminal elements do not have the same regard for life as you do, and when it comes to obtaining high technology...well I leave that to your imagination as to how far they will go to take yours.
by somebozo
i cant belive US customs can be soo retarded or backward with commonly used PC's and LCD monitors. I mean come on.. what is soo special about them..infact they are itself imported from taiwan or somewhere else and the same equipement are sold to entire world even "axis of evil" by the same manufacture ..
seems like american fears are the same what soviets had during the cold war..and they encapsuled themself soo much they ended up shattered
by pmshah9
by adetoni
Dear Deanr156,
there are thousands of university students in africa that would gladly take off your outdated equpment for use and experimenting and building test rigs, or just sharing the internet.
You can donate to the universities directly
by stevef611
by ted2634
I sell most aged PC's by offering employees (users) first right of refusal as and when the PC's are replaced with new machines. A token amount (around $100/-) for depreciated H/W. Network H/W is dumped and usually have to pay for disposal. Have tried passing it on to charity organisations / schools etc., (no-one wants this stuff.) I do regret not keeping one of each equipment model for display / education or training purposes. Technology really has come a long way in the past 15 years or so.
Ted.
by aldisp9
This is rather simple - offer them for free to organisations that are in no position to buy them. If you want to receive something in exchange - well, that is somewhat more difficult.
I can imagine that there are hundreds (at least) of small organisations and just guys out there who would love to have something like that, but they cannot afford buying things they still can do without.
by madion
Due to tax regulations companies often times don't actually realize any $ return on donations.
This is OK if you're truly in it for the warm and fuzzy but when you add to this the burden of being called with questions, paying for shipping costs, time spent identifying what to give, and then still having to pay for disposal of garbage ...
We have been very happy working with a couple of local tech salvage comapanies. They come in, they look, they bid, the properly/legally dispose of nasties, etc. That way machines with our corporate identity don't end up in some random trash bin violating hazardous waste laws.
by telepit
Just what thousands of people would like is something to work with.
Give it away to a club where children can do something with it, or o country where the need is big and money so less.
Wish you luck
A.Deira
by telepit
Just what thousands of people would like is something to work with.
Give it away to a club where children can do something with it, or o country where the need is big and money so less.
Wish you luck
A.Deira
by dbettinger
email me a list of equipment yoiu have available to sell and I'll put you in touch with the people that can tell you what it is worth.
dbettinger@cxtec.com
by nbkonda
by hefairman
by vlathia
I know some organizations that help underprivilage kids in India. Maybe they could make use of this.
What were you hoping to do? If you don't have use,
best is to get rid of it quickly ebay or other means. Depends on where you live, real estate cost may be too high to store away something that you will never use.
by rtmtech1
by johned
Digital Opportunities sets up internet cafes / community computer centers in developing nations (using thin-client technology) and will take old P2, and P3 computers, cables, routers plus other networking "junk" and monitors etc providing they are in working order and give you a 501c3 tax receipt for them.
http://www.digitalopportunities.biz or email digitalopportunities@gmail.com
by markross
by stu.metzler
Feel free to contact me: smetzler@capasset.com or visit our website www.capasset.com.
Stu Metzler
here in north Wales UK we have a recycling group and I get all my cat 5 cables from them, a fiver for a plastic bags worth. True many have been painted various colours, but cleap plastic ducting solves that problem. The "old useless PCs" are just ideal for running SuSe Linux 10.1 and the older ones run DSL /Puppy/ Cymrux very fast.
Ethernet 10/100 cards sell at ?5 per pair make any PC with a PCI slot networkable. Many small businesses and Charities and local groups can easily use these fit 4 the skip PCs.
I use a battery of scap Epson color stylus 600s for doing posters and stuff for local groups.
These work in disgusting condition with a drop of 3 in One oil on the sliders.
Advantage FREE hardware, consumables,( non approved of course but who gives a damn!)
Black ?2, colour ?4, run by "fit 4 skip" PC any Pentium MMx running linux with a ?2.50 network card and scrap cat 5 cable. A 486 running DSL linux with a 120 MEG HD would also do it. Thats a "fit 4 landfill PC"
Yes there is a use for scrap IT bits but first use any of the free HD secure wipers to fubar any data on them.
OLd hubs and routers are very useful for such work, and if its free its for me!
Old keyboards and mice are usually still OK for years. I have an old IBM one that dates from 1991 and it is still working, they made them a lot better then.
by rotimifure1
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by jeffkillam88
Donate it to Good Will.
write it off as a donation on taxs.
From onebrotherjohn@yahoo.com
by thinkgadget
I recomend you check out www.GreenTechAssets.com.
The biggest concern about retired assets is the risk and liability your company takes on regarding their proper disposal. Not only does GTA handle disposal with a zero-landfill program, they also transfer ownership and liability right at your site so that if the stuff spills on the highway and causes a major problem - it's not your problem. Sell stuff on ebay and if it ends up in a landfill - your company might be liable for the cleanup. GTA is a risk-management company that deals in retired electronic assets. Check them out.
by itcowboy
by w2ktechman
I used to do volunteer work at a local computer recycling center. What they do is check everything out and determine if it can be sold, if its useful or recycled properly. They also do a lot of donations to charities and schools.
So, it mey be worth a look first.
by frramon
by raubin
by it_juggler
After having no success in finding willing recipients of our retired hardware, I decided to donate it to a recycling center.
The one that I used is ARC International, http://www.arcic.com/. They took everything that I had on hand, even old copiers and PBX equipment. although they cross their hearts and promise to wipe all data, I removed the hard drives from every maching that we donated. I'd rather store 200 old hard drives than 2,500 pounds of old junk, any day.
PS. They accepted my old monitors, too. All at no charge. I'll call them again once I clear out a few more closets.
by kd_hazen
by bobabr
by nacromancer
by aanderson
We had a hell of a time just getting building managment to let us use someone to come get the crap. It was 6 weeks of circular logic, them telling us we have to take it out ourselves, but we can't throw out anything bigger than a small garbage can, etc etc...
Here's what we did.. (picture) Took a few loads, but we got it all out of there :)
by eliselutrick
Just this morning on freecycle, a lady was looking for components to update her obsolete equipment enough that her daughter could print out her homework and use it for a learning exercise that required audio--neither of which her present setup could do.
My husband and I minister in a mission church to a disadvantaged community. There are so many resources that we could use if only the people had computers, but only a small handful--maybe 2 or 3--out of the group have computers because they can't afford it. This is in the good ole US.
by dean_nr
I gotta say I was a little surprised and the number of responses. :) Thanks everyone. I guess in my original post I should have mentioned our ofices are in Canada, so some of those export laws may not apply here (or just may be a little different). I think in all likelyhood I'm going to recommend we ship off te keyboards, mice, hubs and routers off to some needy countries, auction off the servers to staff and probably ebay the racks.
Thanks again everyone for your feedback
by bigsky
by tr
Aloha, Dean:
I had the same problem 14 years ago when a friend went out of business & left me with 34 computers. But I didn't store them - I started the Hawaii Computers for Kids Program .
We currently coordinate the annual recycling of 8-10,000 computers to schools & non-profits state-wide. It takes an hour or two for me each day, but the PR & goodwill have been incredible. The schools always give my company preference for hardware sales & consulting services, the governor & mayor know my name, & a lot less electronic waste goes into our landfill.
Let me know if you want more details on how to get started.
Ken
Hewlett Packard has a recycling program for all brands of computers, printers, and rechargeable batteries. Here is the link.
www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/environment/recycle/index.html
Here is another place to look for recycling programs. This site is a collection of recycling programs throughout the United States.
Naturally you can talk to charities to see if they need old computers. I know of one charity that has a lot of old computers but nobody to set them up. They don't need hardware; they need expertise.
by tl.eckels
by dracnoc
It's great to be able to recycle parts and give them a new life elsewhere, but watch what happens to your data!
We've recently had a TV programme here in the UK highlighting the problems with old data on drives being sold to the general public in places like Nigeria and India, where 2nd user PC's are a booming trade. Apparently 500 containers a MONTH, packed with PC equipment, end up in Nigeria. The TV reporter showed how easy it was to retreive bank account numbers from drives, as well as a lot of other personal data. He went on to show how he bought them for about ?15/$25, and then handed them back over to their very surprised and angry ex-owners.
by dbear135
by wolvy68
by it cowgirl
Depending on the size of your organization, there is a US Federal Regulation which can fine corporations if their computer/network equipment is found in a landfill; unless they used a certified recycler. (Who charges for the priviledge of recycling/reselling your old crap!)
sux
by roymcbride
by roymcbride
Totally Inexcusable? Really? These peripherals have been rotated throughout the organization systematically until they are by far the oldest here. They pile up in the attic of our facility faster & faster each year until they are a fire hazard. The schools (which we work closely with) do not want to take our junk, trust me.
I put a 2002 era PC on there network for one of our employees that would be working there to use & they called me and told me they would just provide her with a new one . . . and what kind of "Computer Club" do you suggest I get to handle the donations? Sorry, haven't seen any ?Computer Clubs? of them publicized around here.
Face it its not 1995 and peripherals and DeskJet printers do not have the value they once did. Why would I give a printer that cost $100 and has well exceeded its capacity to a nonprofit, and pass our problems on to them? You act like we are putting 1 year old CPUs in landfills.
by stevef611
[i]The schools (which we work closely with) do not want to take our junk, trust me.[/i]
If the local schools are so well-heeled that they can turn up their noses at computer donations, well, sock it to the taxpayers. Are there [i]no[/i] nonprofits or community groups within a reasonable radius of you that would be happy for donations, either to use themselves or to pass on to poor people? As I mentioned before, you may even be able to get the old stuff removed and hauled away by a computer club gratis.
[i]I put a 2002 era PC on there network for one of our employees that would be working there to use & they called me and told me they would just provide her with a new one[/i]
Wow. Most people would consider a 4 year old machine practically brand new. Are you using such advanced applications that such machines are too underpowered? Sorry, I grew up a Yankee and some degree of thrift was burned into me.
[i]and what kind of "Computer Club" do you suggest I get to handle the donations?[/i]
Around here, LUGs (Linux User Groups) provide a public service for nonprofits by setting up computer labs and such at the Boys/Girls Clubs and the like. Linux is happy to run on machines which are considered too pokey for the Latest & Greatest Windows bloatware. Schools are happy to get decent computer labs -- running Linux. LUG members even take free machines home and adopt them. Some set up their own Web servers or even build masssively parallel minisupercomputer clusters. Look on the Web for Linux User Groups in your area. Contact them and see if they'd be interested in hauling off your old "junk".
[i]Why would I give a printer that cost $100 and has well exceeded its capacity to a nonprofit, and pass our problems on to them?[/i]
What's the problem? If it's DOA, that's one thing, but if it works for even a little while, when it breaks and it's not a trivial fix, they throw the thing away. At least they saved having to buy a new one for a while, and maybe they can obtain another used one. Nonprofits are always begging for money so they can get the things they need, and just don't have the scratch for "luxuries" like computers. Or are they so flush with cash in your neck of the woods that they can't stand the thought of hand-me-downs?
by roymcbride
There are plenty of parts of your reply to my reply that I could take issue with, and there are definately "solutions" contained within that I find unrealistic.
However, I don't find this particular part of the thread productive any longer so I am leaving it at that.
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