Web Development

Ask something
Discussion Locked

So...where's coldfusion and macromedia?

0 helpful
11 replies

by quaribc 1 view

Closed to new repliesThis discussion is closed. It stays readable, but it takes no new replies.

Hello,
I have been surfing builder.com since way back when, 1998 or so. However, I have noticed one thing missing from the many days I have surfed the site and it was brought my attention from reading another discussion. There is not enough articles and coverage about coldfusion or macromedia products. The site might as well be called msbuilder.com or something. Granted there is plenty of Java coverage, but honestly the site seems a little too Microsoft-centric. It's as if Builder.com is built around the idea that Enterprise=Microsoft technologies. What about all the ColdFusion developers that are building web services based on CF. There is not a single drop of ColdFusion coverage. Let alone Macromedia. If Builder.com wants to bea true place where all types of developers wants to come and explore there chosen language, then it should cover all the main languages and avenues of development. It's got XML, Java, .NET, ASP and all the rest. But it's leaving CF developers in the cold.

What do you think?

Thank you for your time.

11 replies

by single - hiveminds.info

I agree with your that cold fusion does not have its fair share of coverage. However, CF is not a very developing platform. It was great back in the day when it was one of the first products to market. These days however, it has not kept up pace with JSP and ASP in being robust and scalable. Performance is pretty sucky. The other technology rarely covered is PHP which I think is bigger at the moment than CF.

Anyhow, Builder writes for the enterprise developer and very few major corporationsdeploy CF as their main platform. I have seen CF deployed in smaller sub sections of major corporations but not being the main technology.

by Lamont Adams

We've already got some PHP material on the site with plans for more. Do a search for it and you should turn it up.

We're looking to increase our coverage of CF, and looking for writers with experience developing with it. Email feedback@Builder.com if you are interested.

Thanks for your comments
Lamont Adams
Builder.com

by quaribc

Couldn't you guys hire some CF pros that would like inform the rest of the web development communities about CF.

by john wilker

I know it's the CF poster child but AutoBytel runs CF. Ameriquest Mortgage runs CF. www.forta.com has a huge list of companies using CF. both internally and externally. take a look at BMWusa.com...

Sure it's developing. CF 5 improved on the long standing 4.5x platform and 6 will be a step in a completely new direction (read better also) for ColdFUsion. Allowing developers to write .net web services, true OOP components, Java... 6 will be vastly improving on the CF world.

I can't even count how many times "It's not scalable" is said. that's wrong. It's as scalable as any other language. I've seen sites that get millions of hits a month run just fine with no slow down. The problem is usually that so many have no idea how to configure the ColdFusion server itself, or write code that lends itself to scalability. But believe me, it scales fine when implemented correctly.

It is true that CF usually finds itself supporting intranets and internal departments, but again a lot of that is because there's someone running around saying it doesn't scale, it doesn't scale, so it gets placed internally where the load is lighter... I've seen this exact mentality.

PHP, if you can compile it, it will run. IF. granted it's still kinda new, but I don't see it over taking ColdFusion...

I guess there are like 3 types of PHP? I don't really know much about PHP so I won't speak much to it.

by briscoe

I disagree and would expect the opposite is true. ColdFusion may have had performance problems in earliest versions which they've eliminated and improved with each release. I'd consider the assertion that it "doesn't scale" is a myth or at least arelic.

If there is an article benchmarking CF vs. other scripting languages, I'd love to see it.

by john wilker

I've personally never seen anything like that, anything serious at least. I've probably come across a few random samples.

Not a bad article idea though. Easy enough to do.

J.

by Lamont Adams

John, if you haven't already, please contact us at feedback@builder.com about submitting that article. Sounds like a really good idea.

by john wilker

Lamont, I have actually, my first should be posted next week or the week after. I'll have to see about the speed test.. It's a good idea, I'll have to clean up the server a bit :-) get it ready for benchmarking.

This discussion is closed to new replies.