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i have forgoted my administrative password can you tel me how to broke a password

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by w2ktechman

you can also crack it with a hammer, then its broke too.

Ok, here it is, to broke a PW, type it out on your screen, Use a philips screwdriver, put the screwdriver up to the PW on the screen and hit the end with a hammer. The screwdriver will go through the PW and break it. then the screen will shatter a little, and the PW will be broke.

by nicknielsen

Did you forget that you don't need a screwdriver on a flat screen monitor? He can hit the password directly with the hammer.

by jplconsultant

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought each OS stores the unbroke PW differently. Thus, wouldn't each OS require a different tool? I could have sworn FreeBSD required a MAP Torch.

Maybe if we knew what OS was being used we could provide a more helpful answer.

JPL()

by w2ktechman

Looks like I need to amend my response.

FreeBSD -- MAP Torch
Mandriva Linux -- Small Sledge hammer
SUSE Linux -- brick (thrown, not tossed).
Red Hat Linux (fedora) -- Sawsall -- (any saw will do, but this is the funnest).
Win 9x (95, 98, ME) -- tapping the screen with the middle finger.
Win2k -- Arc Welder
Vista -- throw computer at the monitor

Those are the ways that I found worked. Do you have any other ways that I missed (or did I get any confused)?

by gsg

Fix #4 is a great way to fix anything. It's a code for a fix that a friend an I use as it's too cumbersome to explain the fix every time. Here are the instructions for Fix #4:
1) Open or remove case.
2) Clear the general area to avoid injury from flying debris.
3) Obtain Baseball Bat
4) Repeatedly and forcefully insert bat with a wide swinging motion until problem no longer exists.
**Note: it may be necessary to wear PPE's and warn anyone in the vicinity that fix #4 is about to commence.

by Member 25348569

I would suggest that a cricket bat could be unsafely substituted for the baseball bat as I don't believe they play that baseball over there.

Or anywhere else outside the US.

Neil :)

OK, OK, I know they play a little in Japan but allow us ex-Colonial-Masters our little joke about the World Series.

by big ole jack

If you want to broke a password, I suggest you go to a broker that will advise the password to invest all of its money in junk bonds, thus leaving it broke.

by j-mart

If you are put in a position of responsibility that involves being trusted with an administrator password being a professional means it is your responsibility to keep password secure and not to loose it or forget it. If you have lost or compromised you're admin password you will have to deal with it. If you work in a well run organization there should be a supervisor with all of the need passwords under their control. This is to enable required access if an employee leaves for any reason. You may need to inform your immediate supervisor of your problem and if the appropriate systems are in place there should be a record of all administrator passwords required for proper running of your systems.

by j-mart

Some say all Scotsman a misers, but you will find many who will give you the shirt off their back, Irishmen are supposed to be thick, but I know quite a few that are very clever, Americans are supposed to be loud and obnoxious, but I've met many who are bloody great, as for Australians those buggers are good at everything. Indian people I have found work hard, many of them are clever, and they look after their old. Stereotypes can be a dangerous thing, Hitler, used stereotypes to make things miserable for the Jews, Black Americans have often had to put up with a lot of shit due to stereotypes, I even work with a moron who blames every foreigner he works with for being hard to understand, when the real reason he is loosing his hearing and he has the same problem with everyone. I myself prefer to judge people as I see them and not by any pre-conceived prejudices. But, hey, I'm from the Provence of Canterbury, New Zealand and the rest of the country sees us as being one eyed

by simphiwe.mngadi

I hope there isn't anyone out there who would like to you to be his/her personal experience.

Talk about a "diary of any angry white American".

I guess you are not human after all.

PS: How many ex wives did you loose to Indian guys. Ooops!

by tig2

We simply refuse to provide password hacking information. If we see it posted, it will get marked as spam and removed.

We make a habit of this in general and everyone here is subject to it. As technology professionals, not one of us ever wants the guilt of helping someone get into a system that they shouldn't. And while the OP might be the most honest guy around, the next guy to read the solution might be a dirty thief. Since we can't control that, we have simply taken the stand that such advice will not be offered.

Unfortunately, a great many of the questions we get on password hacking come from one specific region. I really hate that because as a generalization, it could negatively influence one's view of the whole nation.

by charliespencer

We don't answer password cracking questions here. As computer professionals, such questions are insulting to our ethics. It's like going to your first meeting of a hunting club and asking where to shoot bald eagles.

by tig2

To broke a Unix password, a small flame thrower works best. If you live in an apartment, you have to take the whole box outside.

To broke a Mac password, you must take the entire unit out to your driveway and run over it a minimum of seven times- not 6, not 8, then you must find the keyboard and type in "remve" (yes, omit the "o"). You should be set.

I hear that to broke a PCLOS system requires a 4 inch awl and a goldfish but I haven't tried this approach for myself so I don't really know for sure.

by nicknielsen

I'm running PCLOS on one partition at home and hope I never have to broke the password on that machine. You have to set the monitor on a goldfish bowl, then push the awl through the old password by hand. There are major warnings about the procedure failing if you use a hammer; apparently PCLOS passwords are rather brittle and will shatter if struck.

by charliespencer

You have to insert punch card between the monitor frame and the actual display screen all the way around. Once you get the first one in, it's much easier to do the others. When you've got cards inserted all the way around, you should be able to staple them together and insert more cards between the first round of cards and the screen itself. Continue adding layers until you have completely obscured the screen. Now you should be able to write the password on the cards so you can't lose it again. This has the added benefit of also blocking the password prompt.

by tig2

I'm not a feminist. Never have been, never will be. But someone judging me based on my gender is no different than judging based on race.

I know the thread you are referring to. The OP in that case made a statement that equated being female with being stupid. I objected, along with many of my peers- mostly male. They don't want to be perceived of as sexist along with the OP. And the OP removed the offensive remark, which I noted and thanked him for.

I don't tolerate bigotry. Nor do I tolerate racism. Jack has his own views and states them. I do not agree with them. But I also recognize that if I attack him for his views, I accomplish nothing. If I am able to teach him a different viewpoint, I may.

by charliespencer

At first I thought he would have something worth saying on the subject of bigotry, but now I think he's just trolling.

by simphiwe.mngadi

Where in the world have you seen racism as an opinion.

I guess you condone his behaviour. It's interesting that you equated racism with sexism.

As for you not being a feminist, I guess I have to wait for someone to attack your feminist opinions.

by Member 25348569

What are you saying, here? That we IT folk in general have no ethical standards, that the posters in this thread have no ethical standards or that Palmetto has no ethical standards?

I'll wait for a more studied reply before I get annoyed.

Neil :|

by simphiwe.mngadi

Why do feel that I need to know about your level of annoyance?

Why you feel that Palmetto lack ethical standards?

In general, I think you believe IT lacks ethics. Very interesting indeed.

Remember, this is all have to do with a broke password.

by tig2

Sorry Palmetto. You're right- I just didn't see through it. Must need more coffee.

by jdclyde

First, there was nothing angry about "Big OLe"'s posts, and second, did you ever ASK if he was a white american, or did your own bigotry just assume he was? hmmmmmm.

Better go take a good look in the mirror. Careful, you might find something you won't like to see.

by simphiwe.mngadi

We act not according to the truth, but only according to the "truth" as we perceive it.

I guess I must be a monogram person.

by jdclyde

might mess up my hair, both of them.

It is also an expression towards woman, not women. long story.

A monogram is a motif made by overlapping or combining two or more letters or other graphemes to form one symbol. Monograms are often made by combining the initials of an individual or a company, and may be used as recognizable symbols or logos.

yeah, your a real motif person....

by simphiwe.mngadi

Just because you post meandering semantics does not mean that I have to respond to them.

If you intended me to read between the lines, post it to MonogramRepublic forum

by jdclyde

there is no difference between being stupid towards someone based on color, gender, or country they live in. stupid is stupid.

I prefer to wait until someone has shown on an individual bases that they are a waste of oxygen first.

So far, you haven't added anything of value to this discussion. Feel like starting?

by faradhi

Reciprocating Saw

edited to add --
Oh I forgot, you must have the OS400 started and start at the top and back near Power Supply and move in a diagonal fashion util PW is broke. The tingles you will feel lets you know it is working.

by Member 25348569

And also very confrontational and, I reckon, also not as sharp as you think you are. This is an open forum so, although my post was directly referencing yours, I wasn't posting as if you were the only one who might read it and respond to it. That's the way open forums work.

As for ethics. I think that there is a level of professional ethics within IT that we all should attempt to follow. Unfortunately, there are a number of people who do not follow any these or any other ethical standards sometimes due to character flaws, mostly due to ignorance or, occasionally, cultural differences.

Annoyance level 4.2. Wonder what the scale maxes out at...

by w2ktechman

First to point -- Jack has an interesting set of views. I do not agree with him most of the time. But, I respect that he is open and honest about them, and not shameful. He is---well--Jack after all... :^0

So why are you going on about Tig?? Did she refuse to give you a PW one time and now you are upset? Get over it. She stated her case already!

You on the other hand, seem to be a bit like a fly. An annoying bug that just needs to be swat!
Go home, mamas calling!

by older mycroft

Unfortunately it was from a bargain-bookshop - and like everything else Afrikaans - it arrived without the instructions pages.

I find you so objectionable that I shudder to think that we even share the same timeline!!!

by jdclyde

This has nothing to do with communism or the United States, and after you cool down, you will see that.

This is a private server, where you only have the rights that they give you, as they give them to you.

If you disagree, send an email to TPTB and state your case.

They do have every right to remove anything they do not see fitting in with their plans.

by roger99a

I took a computer off the domain yesterday.. made the mistake of not resetting the administrator password first. It wasn't any of the 'Standard" passwords, either. I used the a linux disk to reset it. It was hardly unethical. You have assumed the question was asked for unethical purposes.

by nicknielsen

They fly in, drop their single post, and are never heard from again.

Would YOU provide password cracking instructions to somebody you met on the street?

by roger99a

He should Google it like I did. I just didn't think that we would never discuss it. Never almost never happens.

by charliespencer

You're right, I assumed the question was asked for unethical purposes. I did so because the question followed a pattern typical of unethical questions. This includes:

New member.
First-ever post is about cracking a password.
Member is from the same geographic area as past unethical postings.
Member's reason for cracking password is suspicious.
Member has no profile.
Member does not accept peer messages.
Member posts question and is never heard from again.

Based on these, yes, I assumed unethical motivations. Had you asked about your problem, I might have requested you peer mail me for a possible solution. You're not new, you've posted on other topics, your story holds water, and you've included details about what else you've tried.

by j-mart

Would not waste their time on a
techrepublic forum as in these dodgy areas
they are well ahead of us. No matter what
security and anti-piracy technology is
developed they don't seem to take long to
crack it. One thing to remember it does not
cost anything to to be polite. It seems to
me those from India seem to get more rude
replies than others. Often English may not
be their first language and the exact
thrust of their post may loose something in
the translation, many have them have had a
much harder start than us. As a
professional as well as an ethical
componant a bit of good maners does not do
any harm either.

by simphiwe.mngadi

The guy could have legitimately forgotten his password and wanted to know how he can be able to recover it without having to format the OS.

He might have been to different forums and thought that TechRepublic have necessary knowledge base for his dilemma. Little did he know that he encountered a bunch of know-it-all technomaniacs.

I just hope that your users and customers do not get the same end of the stick - a career limiting move (w2ktechman).

by nicknielsen

But he specifically asked for information about obtaining or breaking the admin password, not just "the password." If it's a business PC and he's supposed to have access, his admin can reset the password for him. If he's the admin he should have the password written down and stored in a secure location; failure to do this is unprofessional at best and possibly a career-ending move. If it's a home PC and he doesn't have the admin password, he should ask his parents for access. If it's his PC, he should have the password written down somewhere. In any case, if he's supposed to have admin access, he should have an alternate path for obtaining the password.

A large number of us here at TR have professional certifications. In most cases, the certifying body specifies that if we help somebody gain unauthorized access to a computer, data, or network, we are liable to lose our certifications. Since we have chosen careers as "technomaniacs," none of us is foolish enough to risk our career.

by simphiwe.mngadi

Thank you for the dictionary definition, it lack context.

As for a motif person, I don't know what you wanted to say. But I will forgive you because you let your thoughts and anger go haywire on you.

I just wonder what Ole Jack was emotionally writing though.

I hope to see an article on IT professional etiquette soon because there seem to be lack of it.

by Member 25348569

is that we can see that some people come on to this site with the best of intentions and they really do have a legitimate need but, if we post the information, then what we can't do is limit the readership.

If some idiot reads about password-hacking software and follows the links that we could surely provide and then trashes his colleague's PC "for a joke", we have to carry some of the blame.

Also, if we do present some of the really simple information that "anyone can get off Google", why should we stop there? There are some pretty talented and knowledgeable people who post on this site and we/they could post some good stuff! Much easier if we present a united policy to say one form or another of "sorry, please go away" to everyone who posts.

Neil :)

by simphiwe.mngadi

Believe me, I full agree with you on the "should" policy. But times have changed, and IT is poorly positioned to cling to the "it's our policy" and "that's our plan" refrains of yesteryear.

Once you understand what the problem is, you must not "should" assume your users intentions. I acknowledge and respect professional certification of TR public, but we need not hide behind it. There was an article earlier about what makes techies fail. Review that.

Now having said all that, I would understand if this person is the same as this one: https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-3513-0.html?forumID=101&threadID=238960&tag=rbxccnbd1.

What I fail to understand is why "break password" guy ONLY got 3 posts (he should have been hammered) where as "broke password" 59 posts; since the "break" guy specifically referred to the server admin password.

As for Big Ole Jack, he reminds me of the game "Redneck Rampage", I fail to understand that our profession is also full of such people (he's probably from the mainframe era):
1) Excuse me, but what was racist about it?
Posted by Big Ole Jack | 11/20/2007 @ 07:43 AM (PST)

2) Work with one first and then get back to me
Posted by Big Ole Jack | 11/20/2007 @ 07:49 AM (PST)

3) It certainly has influenced my views. Can you blame me?
Posted by Big Ole Jack | 11/20/2007 @ 09:21 AM (PST)

4) I'm an American, so I must be white and a redneck according to him
Posted by Big Ole Jack | 11/20/2007 @ 09:28 AM (PST)

by w2ktechman

If it rolls off the screen before I see it, I dont bother looking for them. It might have also been when I was doing more work/study rather than posting.

Either way, if I had seen this one, it would have been a prime one for the Electrocution technique :^0

There are many that receive a lot of responses, and many that do not. It just happens to be that the ones that receive the most responses, are the ones most visible (like this one), and they popped up when more users were active on the site.

by charliespencer

See my reply to Roger99a for the reasons I assumed the original post was out of bounds.

As to why one post gets 3 responses and the other 60 and counting, there are a number of possible reasons. The most likely reason is there was a lot of activity on other topics that day, and the post got pushed off the bottom of the list before many people saw it. You'll notice the two responses are pretty typical of the responses to this question; either "Go away" or a sarcastic non-solution usually based on a literal interpretation of the question.

"I acknowledge and respect professional certification of TR public, ..."

If you do, why did you question my ethics?

by nicknielsen

[i]Believe me, I full agree with you on the "should" policy. But times have changed, and IT is poorly positioned to cling to the "it's our policy" and "that's our plan" refrains of yesteryear.[/i]

In my post above, I simply stated policies that any reasonably competent IT department/computer user has in place for protecting and recovering admin passwords; this need will never go away. These policies have almost nothing to do with anything outside IT other than responding to lost password requests.

by abdoulie

hi ho ware u? i am some how fine but i wanna know if u want to break the password without cd or formattiong!! i wil be very happy to hear from u!!

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