65 replies
by w2ktechman
you can also crack it with a hammer, then its broke too.
Ok, here it is, to broke a PW, type it out on your screen, Use a philips screwdriver, put the screwdriver up to the PW on the screen and hit the end with a hammer. The screwdriver will go through the PW and break it. then the screen will shatter a little, and the PW will be broke.
by nicknielsen
by w2ktechman
Yup, I forgot.
But the screwdriver has a better effect anyway... zzzap...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought each OS stores the unbroke PW differently. Thus, wouldn't each OS require a different tool? I could have sworn FreeBSD required a MAP Torch.
Maybe if we knew what OS was being used we could provide a more helpful answer.
JPL()
by w2ktechman
Looks like I need to amend my response.
FreeBSD -- MAP Torch
Mandriva Linux -- Small Sledge hammer
SUSE Linux -- brick (thrown, not tossed).
Red Hat Linux (fedora) -- Sawsall -- (any saw will do, but this is the funnest).
Win 9x (95, 98, ME) -- tapping the screen with the middle finger.
Win2k -- Arc Welder
Vista -- throw computer at the monitor
Those are the ways that I found worked. Do you have any other ways that I missed (or did I get any confused)?
by gsg
Fix #4 is a great way to fix anything. It's a code for a fix that a friend an I use as it's too cumbersome to explain the fix every time. Here are the instructions for Fix #4:
1) Open or remove case.
2) Clear the general area to avoid injury from flying debris.
3) Obtain Baseball Bat
4) Repeatedly and forcefully insert bat with a wide swinging motion until problem no longer exists.
**Note: it may be necessary to wear PPE's and warn anyone in the vicinity that fix #4 is about to commence.
I would suggest that a cricket bat could be unsafely substituted for the baseball bat as I don't believe they play that baseball over there.
Or anywhere else outside the US.
Neil :)
OK, OK, I know they play a little in Japan but allow us ex-Colonial-Masters our little joke about the World Series.
by big ole jack
by big ole jack
by j-mart
by big ole jack
by j-mart
I hope there isn't anyone out there who would like to you to be his/her personal experience.
Talk about a "diary of any angry white American".
I guess you are not human after all.
PS: How many ex wives did you loose to Indian guys. Ooops!
by big ole jack
it might be for his PC.
After all the textbook yapping.
by tig2
We simply refuse to provide password hacking information. If we see it posted, it will get marked as spam and removed.
We make a habit of this in general and everyone here is subject to it. As technology professionals, not one of us ever wants the guilt of helping someone get into a system that they shouldn't. And while the OP might be the most honest guy around, the next guy to read the solution might be a dirty thief. Since we can't control that, we have simply taken the stand that such advice will not be offered.
Unfortunately, a great many of the questions we get on password hacking come from one specific region. I really hate that because as a generalization, it could negatively influence one's view of the whole nation.
by tig2
To broke a Unix password, a small flame thrower works best. If you live in an apartment, you have to take the whole box outside.
To broke a Mac password, you must take the entire unit out to your driveway and run over it a minimum of seven times- not 6, not 8, then you must find the keyboard and type in "remve" (yes, omit the "o"). You should be set.
I hear that to broke a PCLOS system requires a 4 inch awl and a goldfish but I haven't tried this approach for myself so I don't really know for sure.
by nicknielsen
I find feminist to be highly susceptible to bigotry.
Spybot, ring any bell?
by tig2
I'm not a feminist. Never have been, never will be. But someone judging me based on my gender is no different than judging based on race.
I know the thread you are referring to. The OP in that case made a statement that equated being female with being stupid. I objected, along with many of my peers- mostly male. They don't want to be perceived of as sexist along with the OP. And the OP removed the offensive remark, which I noted and thanked him for.
I don't tolerate bigotry. Nor do I tolerate racism. Jack has his own views and states them. I do not agree with them. But I also recognize that if I attack him for his views, I accomplish nothing. If I am able to teach him a different viewpoint, I may.
Where in the world have you seen racism as an opinion.
I guess you condone his behaviour. It's interesting that you equated racism with sexism.
As for you not being a feminist, I guess I have to wait for someone to attack your feminist opinions.
by big ole jack
What are you saying, here? That we IT folk in general have no ethical standards, that the posters in this thread have no ethical standards or that Palmetto has no ethical standards?
I'll wait for a more studied reply before I get annoyed.
Neil :|
Why do feel that I need to know about your level of annoyance?
Why you feel that Palmetto lack ethical standards?
In general, I think you believe IT lacks ethics. Very interesting indeed.
Remember, this is all have to do with a broke password.
by tig2
by jdclyde
First, there was nothing angry about "Big OLe"'s posts, and second, did you ever ASK if he was a white american, or did your own bigotry just assume he was? hmmmmmm.
Better go take a good look in the mirror. Careful, you might find something you won't like to see.
We act not according to the truth, but only according to the "truth" as we perceive it.
I guess I must be a monogram person.
Care to explain? I don't really want to have to work that hard to work out what you're on about...
Neil ?:|
by jdclyde
might mess up my hair, both of them.
It is also an expression towards woman, not women. long story.
A monogram is a motif made by overlapping or combining two or more letters or other graphemes to form one symbol. Monograms are often made by combining the initials of an individual or a company, and may be used as recognizable symbols or logos.
yeah, your a real motif person....
by big ole jack
by big ole jack
by jdclyde
Just because you post meandering semantics does not mean that I have to respond to them.
If you intended me to read between the lines, post it to MonogramRepublic forum
by jdclyde
there is no difference between being stupid towards someone based on color, gender, or country they live in. stupid is stupid.
I prefer to wait until someone has shown on an individual bases that they are a waste of oxygen first.
So far, you haven't added anything of value to this discussion. Feel like starting?
Can you read between the lines where nobody else can...
if so...
...then you must be a monogram person.
by faradhi
Reciprocating Saw
edited to add --
Oh I forgot, you must have the OS400 started and start at the top and back near Power Supply and move in a diagonal fashion util PW is broke. The tingles you will feel lets you know it is working.
And also very confrontational and, I reckon, also not as sharp as you think you are. This is an open forum so, although my post was directly referencing yours, I wasn't posting as if you were the only one who might read it and respond to it. That's the way open forums work.
As for ethics. I think that there is a level of professional ethics within IT that we all should attempt to follow. Unfortunately, there are a number of people who do not follow any these or any other ethical standards sometimes due to character flaws, mostly due to ignorance or, occasionally, cultural differences.
Annoyance level 4.2. Wonder what the scale maxes out at...
I could go to my grave neither knowing [b]or[/b] caring.
Neil :_|
by w2ktechman
First to point -- Jack has an interesting set of views. I do not agree with him most of the time. But, I respect that he is open and honest about them, and not shameful. He is---well--Jack after all... :^0
So why are you going on about Tig?? Did she refuse to give you a PW one time and now you are upset? Get over it. She stated her case already!
You on the other hand, seem to be a bit like a fly. An annoying bug that just needs to be swat!
Go home, mamas calling!
by big ole jack
Unfortunately it was from a bargain-bookshop - and like everything else Afrikaans - it arrived without the instructions pages.
I find you so objectionable that I shudder to think that we even share the same timeline!!!
by big ole jack
by jdclyde
This has nothing to do with communism or the United States, and after you cool down, you will see that.
This is a private server, where you only have the rights that they give you, as they give them to you.
If you disagree, send an email to TPTB and state your case.
They do have every right to remove anything they do not see fitting in with their plans.
by roger99a
by nicknielsen
They fly in, drop their single post, and are never heard from again.
Would YOU provide password cracking instructions to somebody you met on the street?
by roger99a
You're right, I assumed the question was asked for unethical purposes. I did so because the question followed a pattern typical of unethical questions. This includes:
New member.
First-ever post is about cracking a password.
Member is from the same geographic area as past unethical postings.
Member's reason for cracking password is suspicious.
Member has no profile.
Member does not accept peer messages.
Member posts question and is never heard from again.
Based on these, yes, I assumed unethical motivations. Had you asked about your problem, I might have requested you peer mail me for a possible solution. You're not new, you've posted on other topics, your story holds water, and you've included details about what else you've tried.
by roger99a
https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=47&threadID=193579&tag=rbxccnbd1
That guy got a lot of help offered to him... but his english was better. What bothers me more is that s.kanabargi creates an account and his first and only post is "broke password". He hasn't even been back to explain why.
by j-mart
Would not waste their time on a
techrepublic forum as in these dodgy areas
they are well ahead of us. No matter what
security and anti-piracy technology is
developed they don't seem to take long to
crack it. One thing to remember it does not
cost anything to to be polite. It seems to
me those from India seem to get more rude
replies than others. Often English may not
be their first language and the exact
thrust of their post may loose something in
the translation, many have them have had a
much harder start than us. As a
professional as well as an ethical
componant a bit of good maners does not do
any harm either.
The guy could have legitimately forgotten his password and wanted to know how he can be able to recover it without having to format the OS.
He might have been to different forums and thought that TechRepublic have necessary knowledge base for his dilemma. Little did he know that he encountered a bunch of know-it-all technomaniacs.
I just hope that your users and customers do not get the same end of the stick - a career limiting move (w2ktechman).
by nicknielsen
But he specifically asked for information about obtaining or breaking the admin password, not just "the password." If it's a business PC and he's supposed to have access, his admin can reset the password for him. If he's the admin he should have the password written down and stored in a secure location; failure to do this is unprofessional at best and possibly a career-ending move. If it's a home PC and he doesn't have the admin password, he should ask his parents for access. If it's his PC, he should have the password written down somewhere. In any case, if he's supposed to have admin access, he should have an alternate path for obtaining the password.
A large number of us here at TR have professional certifications. In most cases, the certifying body specifies that if we help somebody gain unauthorized access to a computer, data, or network, we are liable to lose our certifications. Since we have chosen careers as "technomaniacs," none of us is foolish enough to risk our career.
Thank you for the dictionary definition, it lack context.
As for a motif person, I don't know what you wanted to say. But I will forgive you because you let your thoughts and anger go haywire on you.
I just wonder what Ole Jack was emotionally writing though.
I hope to see an article on IT professional etiquette soon because there seem to be lack of it.
is that we can see that some people come on to this site with the best of intentions and they really do have a legitimate need but, if we post the information, then what we can't do is limit the readership.
If some idiot reads about password-hacking software and follows the links that we could surely provide and then trashes his colleague's PC "for a joke", we have to carry some of the blame.
Also, if we do present some of the really simple information that "anyone can get off Google", why should we stop there? There are some pretty talented and knowledgeable people who post on this site and we/they could post some good stuff! Much easier if we present a united policy to say one form or another of "sorry, please go away" to everyone who posts.
Neil :)
Believe me, I full agree with you on the "should" policy. But times have changed, and IT is poorly positioned to cling to the "it's our policy" and "that's our plan" refrains of yesteryear.
Once you understand what the problem is, you must not "should" assume your users intentions. I acknowledge and respect professional certification of TR public, but we need not hide behind it. There was an article earlier about what makes techies fail. Review that.
Now having said all that, I would understand if this person is the same as this one: https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-3513-0.html?forumID=101&threadID=238960&tag=rbxccnbd1.
What I fail to understand is why "break password" guy ONLY got 3 posts (he should have been hammered) where as "broke password" 59 posts; since the "break" guy specifically referred to the server admin password.
As for Big Ole Jack, he reminds me of the game "Redneck Rampage", I fail to understand that our profession is also full of such people (he's probably from the mainframe era):
1) Excuse me, but what was racist about it?
Posted by Big Ole Jack | 11/20/2007 @ 07:43 AM (PST)
2) Work with one first and then get back to me
Posted by Big Ole Jack | 11/20/2007 @ 07:49 AM (PST)
3) It certainly has influenced my views. Can you blame me?
Posted by Big Ole Jack | 11/20/2007 @ 09:21 AM (PST)
4) I'm an American, so I must be white and a redneck according to him
Posted by Big Ole Jack | 11/20/2007 @ 09:28 AM (PST)
by w2ktechman
If it rolls off the screen before I see it, I dont bother looking for them. It might have also been when I was doing more work/study rather than posting.
Either way, if I had seen this one, it would have been a prime one for the Electrocution technique :^0
There are many that receive a lot of responses, and many that do not. It just happens to be that the ones that receive the most responses, are the ones most visible (like this one), and they popped up when more users were active on the site.
See my reply to Roger99a for the reasons I assumed the original post was out of bounds.
As to why one post gets 3 responses and the other 60 and counting, there are a number of possible reasons. The most likely reason is there was a lot of activity on other topics that day, and the post got pushed off the bottom of the list before many people saw it. You'll notice the two responses are pretty typical of the responses to this question; either "Go away" or a sarcastic non-solution usually based on a literal interpretation of the question.
"I acknowledge and respect professional certification of TR public, ..."
If you do, why did you question my ethics?
by nicknielsen
[i]Believe me, I full agree with you on the "should" policy. But times have changed, and IT is poorly positioned to cling to the "it's our policy" and "that's our plan" refrains of yesteryear.[/i]
In my post above, I simply stated policies that any reasonably competent IT department/computer user has in place for protecting and recovering admin passwords; this need will never go away. These policies have almost nothing to do with anything outside IT other than responding to lost password requests.
by abdoulie
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