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I have Two computers running Win98se at seperate locations, both connected to the internet
One is connected useing a DSL 128/738
the other is connected useing a Cable modem
and both have static IP addresses

I would like to link the two together so that both appear to be on the same network and work group for the purpose of shareing files and passing information

Have tryed setting up VPN however when i try to "Dial" (useing VPN adaptor and IP addressing) the other machine

machine dialing out either freezes or reboots

what am I doing wrong, or am I completely off the mark by attempting to link the two machines with VPN?

any help would be appreciated!

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by datajockey

Although I have not tried this myself I may have some insight to your issue. For starters I do not now your exact situation but I will try to provide some input from what I do know.
It is not possibly to establish a connection via NIC to NIC. I assume that you are connected to your DSL modem/router using a NIC card. When you tried to use the dial?up VPN settings on your 98 box?s you where changing the binding to your NIC (Network interface Card). The NIC cards are trying to establish a dial up connection without a dial up connection! That may be why the computers are freezing.
When you create a VPN you have to have a common platform or interrupter. This is usually a server running VPN services in conjunction with RAS (Remote Access Server) services. You can however connect a VPN between two routers. This can be done with IPSEC or PPTP. If you have a standard DSL modem/Router like a Cisco or Linksys these features should be built in. You should be able to establish a connection between the routers. Log into the routers using HYPERTERM or similar application. You then can change the setting within the router itself to use VPN services between the two platforms. Here is a link that you may find useful. I commonly refer to these sights when confronting VPN connection. www.firstvpn.com
www.vpninsider.com

by datajockey

Did you look at the sites for help. what type of DSL router/modem and Cable Modem are you using. Router to Router VPN still sounds like the way to me. If you cable modem dosent support this feature, I know that the linksys DSL/Cable modem does.

by mzy

I am not very sure of what you really want, but I think you can use Direct Cable Connection instead of VPN, and you can still use the internet this way for both computers.

Hope this helps, Maozy

by Member 23732230

Ok Perhaps i wasn't Clear enough when i said the Computers were located at
"SEPERATE" locations. As in two Different locations / buildings seperated by Physical space; and Each is connected to the internet via SEPERATE internet connections via seperat ISP's
I.e. 1) DSL Router
2) Cable Modem
The probelem I am trying to solve involves connecting Both locations Through a tunnle via the internet

THANKS for the Help, But NO POINTS!

by nettek

It's a great idea, but I don't think it can be done. A VPN requires a RAS server for VPN clients to connect to. The software on your 98 machines enables them to be VPN clients only.

by shanghai sam

I believe ICS is the answer your looking for.
Go to Win98se Help, look into Internet Connection Sharing. All (or both) both computers will need to have ICS installed, found in the Windows Setup/Internet Menu. The win help program is fairly easy to follow. You'll use the ICS Adapter/ICS Protocol/ICS TCP/IP and DCHP for wins resolution to connect to your ISP, instead of the ethernet/cable modem TCP/IP connection you've been using. Using DCHP will nul your static IP addresses, but provide a somewhat improved security scenario, leaving one of your computers (the 'secondary') pretty well protected from intrusion (perhaps the best choice for system backup folders on a logical drive). Then, create a separate connection, (using DialUp Networking)to assign IP addresses for each NIC, to create your small LAN (NIC adapter/NIC TCP/IP shared). I don't think this would work (or be wise) for activating both connections simultainiously, but should meet your task criteria, separately. Also, I think VPN should be eliminated (or of no use) in this type of setup.

by Member 23732230

Ok Perhaps i wasn't Clear enough when i said the Computers were located at
"SEPERATE" locations. As in two Different locations / buildings seperated by Physical space; and Each is connected to the internet via SEPERATE internet connections via seperat ISP's
I.e. 1) DSL Router
2) Cable Modem
The probelem I am trying to solve involves connecting Both locations Through a tunnle via the internet
ICS involves useing one computer connected to the internet as a gateway/server to attach other computers connected to it via a LAN to the Internet
THANKS for the Help, But NO POINTS!

by msgtray

The problem is you are trying to link two client services together (the sending computer freezes {accually it's just waiting for an answer} because the other computer does not and cannot answer). Simple solution should be to upgrade one of the computers to NT 4.0 WS or Win2k pro. Limitation to this is that establishing the connection will be one way (initiated by Win98se to NT box). If you want to establish the connection either way, upgrade both boxes.

Ray

by shmaltz

Answer 1 is right and wrong, you are not limited to a VPN connection since your NIC is allready connected to the DSL/Cable connection (like answer 1 said), b/c DSL/Cable (DSL only if its an allways on connection otherwise DSL dosnt bind directly to the NIC) works on the NIC while VPN does NOT bind the IP address directly to the NIC it binds it to a virtual adapter and not dirctly to the NIC.
answer five is correct you need a server to be the VPN server you can not use a win9x machine for the server, maybe PCAnywhere will work.

by Member 23732230

Is it really neccisary to be so
encriptic with your answer?
If My answer is really to be found in 1
and 5, what info did you bring to the table
PCAnywhere? No, I am trying to link the
machines together on a network
Not allow one to control theother

THANKS

by larryhyman

First of all forget about VPN, I don't know anybody that has ever had success with it. But, I do know that there is a lot of software on the internet that is supposed to do it. try www.nonags.com, I remember seeing something there.....

Larry Hyman

by Member 23732230

Forget about VPN!?
Because Everybody you know hasn't had
any success with it!
(now there is a real good qualifier for
giveing up!)
And I am supposed to search through a
entire website of FREE/PD software
because you remember seeing SOMETHING there?
Sounds like fishing for points with a
unbaited hook!
But Thanks anyways!

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