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by santeewelding

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Some son of a bitch kills people -- men, women, children -- then offs himself, so's you can't get to him and wring his neck.

This is only the latest instance:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/29/arizona.custody.shooting/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

We have all been around long enough to have seen many more instances of the same.

So, you are outraged. Every article of the moral understanding you had has been rent. Retribution surges to mind. Only, there can be none. The SOB is dead. He is dead by his own hand. You are left with -- nothing.

What was it that you had in the first place that clearly does not work for having been so frustrated?

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by santeewelding

An evangelical Christian once told this heathen, which I never forgot. It's like you are behind bars and you are the only one holding the door shut.

by ansugisalas

...doesn't it?
Some people say that Jesus is too easy on sinners, but I say he's impossibly hard on us. And we can't even complain, because he's okay with it. Loving us after all, and despite of it all.

by jaqui

cause the gene pool got some cleaning.
:D

idjits that can't notice the danger and the idjit that killed itself.
good thing, we are incrementally a smarter species.

by santeewelding

Myself, I have undertaken the discipline of training in lethal arts to confront my own mother.

How do you handle that, in your flip way, given that you would be of that pool?

by nexs

Another thought is this:
If the murderer offed themselves, then it makes for the same outcome those in pain wish for, only they don't then go to jail for it.

Surely, they'll feel frustrated, and with a gaping fissure somewhere for not being given the chance to do it, but in the end, they'll be ok and free from prison.

by ansugisalas

The revenge killing.

Getting a chance to shout and rage and holler at the miserable skunk that ruined everything... that would probably help, but that's what these stupid skunks then pre-empt. They can't face the music. Which is how they got that stupid idea into their heads to begin with.

by bergenfx

He was in custody before I got the phone call, confessed to his act, and more--to his unspeakable intentions--by the time the sun broke. He was never out of custody and will be serving sentence for some time now. If they wouldn't have, I would have without regard to consequences. Call it what you will -- one of those re words, but I played it through my head a lot, even the aftermath. It very much had the feeling of something I would have to have done if they didn't, but not of any kind of satisfaction.

The individual who suffered in this is alive, and thank God (yes), doing well now.

by ansugisalas

Between revenge and prevention.
So fine, in fact, that it's adamant.

I have my own definition of the word "enemy", and that's "someone who wants to do harm to me and mine, and who may well follow through". Should it come to my attention that I had an enemy, I would not hesitate to prevent their intent with extreme prejudice. Plan with care maybe, but not hesitate.

So, I do understand what you mean.
As for my history of grief, the perp never was caught and the other parameter is "isn't". And that's not God's fault, because God cannot change these material matters.

by ansugisalas

but there's also a difference between 'apparent' and 'apparently'... it's an ever growing one too.

by gsg

I know someone who is a very sweet lady, whose son committed a horrific act, leading to the deaths of several people. He barely missed getting the death penalty and is in prison for life without parole.

She has been dealing with this for over a decade, and once made a statement about she wished he'd just killed himself instead of denying everything. She's being punished every day knowing that he's still alive in jail with 3 squares, and he constantly tries to contact her when her grandchildren never had a chance to grow up.

I'd rather they off themselves because they won't be committing more crimes, and they won't be eating up taxpayer money with trial after trial, and putting the victim's families through additional hell.

by ansugisalas

Of course, I'd prefer that their parents had spent more time looking at their children, catching the flaw in time. But somethings go wrong sometimes.

Something that's best left to fate, I guess.

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