I can't believe this

an ogre -- LOL

Not from hell, but an ogre anyway.

by dwdino Sep 3, 2009

[Sarcasm]

Anyone else notice that this was a reoccuring thing.

According to the article, the mother was "warned" and some time later, the incident occured.

What if every time you went to the grocery store the same woman and child were carrying on with the same bellowing.

Maybe he can plead momentary insanity due to regular torture?

[/Sarcasm]

Edited for clarity.

by cmiller5400 Sep 3, 2009

You JUST don't get it do you?

You [b]NEVER[/b] hit another person's child. [b]PERIOD. END OF STORY[/b]

Doesn't matter if he "warned" her or not. He has [b]NO RIGHT[/b] to hit that child. You don't like it, leave the store or ask a manager to intervene if the parents aren't doing anything.

I don't have kids, but I have a nephew and if he misbehaved to the point of temper tantrum, I'd leave the store out of respect for others. It's up to the parents to keep their kids under control; if my nephew was throwing the mother of all tantrums, I wouldn't hesitate to walk out and go back home.

by boxfiddler Hot topic Sep 2, 2009

she should have bashed his balls. X-(

etu

by av . Sep 2, 2009

I would be. He's a scary looking guy.

AV

by purpleskys Sep 3, 2009

slapped him...but not with an open hand...touch my kids and you best start running...

and I have no kids.

I remember once tho my sister smacked my niece on the face when she was maybe 3 or 4.

I grabbed my sister's arm and told her if she ever hit my niece in the head again, she'd need a cast on each arm.

Hitting in the head of a kid is abuse pure and simple.

unable or too scared, that someone else would have.
surprised the cops didnt take him for a long drive to the station -- with just a quick stop :^0

or maybe lose him on the way there...say...in the bottom of a lake.

ugh...i hate people like that dude. i want to drive up there and wait for him to make bail.

...we're having a blanket party!!!

;)

by cmiller5400 Sep 3, 2009

pull out your Smith & Wesson 500 and blow them to pieces*! :D ]:)

*: May take out a wee bit more than the "guys down there" using the 500...

by michael jay Sep 2, 2009

I can't believe it as well, it was the talk at the lunch table today, being that it was right here where I live.

But the crazy folks are everywhere.

And worse, they seem to be growing in number.

I'd be interested to know how crowded the grocery store was when this happened, and if anyone overheard/witnessed this occur.

I'd like to think that someone would have stepped in on the behalf of the child & mother.

the mother would have stepped in.

My mother would have. Of course, my mother was 5'11. :^0

If I was there and had put it together in my head, I am sure I would have stepped up to the plate.

by gsg Sep 3, 2009

Yes, there were witnesses. The story I read said that they saw him hit the child and while the mom yelled for security, they "kept him from leaving the scene".

Plus, this was at WalMart, I think. They have cameras all over the place, so maybe they caught it on tape.

Normally, I'm against suing for every little thing, but this is one case where if I were that mom, I'd file a civil suit and take everything he has in this life, AND the next.

I don't have kids, but if that were on of my nephews when they were small, that man would have been crying like a little girl and begging the police to save him from me. That is, if he could still talk when the police got there. Of course, I'm tall, and imposing, and have a temper that's been known to cause scorch marks with just a glare.

by nicknielsen Sep 2, 2009

I think he's the same one who almost hit me in the crosswalk in a store parking lot because he's too important to stop for stop signs.

.

Keep in mind that I like to reserve "stupid" for truly special occasions, so I use "important" the rest of the time...

by shellbot Sep 3, 2009

Good thing it wasn't me that happened to, I'd likely be the one being charged..

I'd have kicked his 2 veg so far up he'd have a new set of eyes

idiot

done that with you or Mae around -- he woulda been too scared

:^0

by shellbot Sep 3, 2009

I'm not that scary :(

Well, if he had done it with me around..he'd be a changed man... wouldn't have needed to call the police..why use middle men

by tony hopkinson Sep 3, 2009

If I'd have seen this, I'd have had to hurt him.

Badly...

Ole boy there would have been picking his liver up from two aisle over.

Anyone hit my kid, I would have shoved the nearest, biggest item on a shelf up their arse.

That SOB needs to be run over. You don't hit kids.

by jamesrl Sep 3, 2009

Years of martial arts to control a temper would have gone down the drain if I'd seen this. I would have been using some of that training to pin him to the ground, if he was lucky. And it wouldn't have to be my kid either, no matter whose kid it is, it just isn't right.

Sure screaming babies can be annoying, but ADULTS are supposed to be able to handle these kinds of things.

James

if it was my kid. He'd have been dead.

If it was someone else's kid, I'd have at a minimum gone and had the store manager call the police. If I knew it wasn't his kid, I'd have probably gone and decked his a$$.

I saw a mom hit her daughter in the head one night at a Wal-Mart. Got the cops out there and she was arrested.

Hitting a little kid in the head is definitely not cool. You can do permanent damage.

the kid gets slapped hands or a spanking -- but these days, even that is a no no :(

usually I will try to stay out of things, but if I had caught on that he wasnt related, I woulda surely gotten involved.

...he would have done the same thing, had it been a father and a child; unless the father was diminutive in stature.

Cowardly acts are usually done by cowardly people.

And hittin a kid in the head is done by someone who needs a minimum of 20 years in prison, IMHO.

Like I have said. If it had been my kid, he'd have been done in. Anyone were to hit my kid in the head, the next thing they would feel would be my big body dozing them down and then they might stay conscious through the first 3 or 4 kicks/punches.

There are certain things that set me off. Hitting a kid in the head is one of them. Hitting one of my family is a whole other level though.

by tig2 Sep 3, 2009

He would definitely have found himself looking pretty ridiculous with his head stuffed up his @ss.

I agree- he looks like an ogre. But that wouldn't go far to stop me if I saw him slapping a little kid. Even if it was HIS kid.

Yes, I can be pretty formidable when I want to be.

by santeewelding Sep 3, 2009

To tell the little kid to cover both ears before you drop the hammer.

...of 3rd party onlookers. Did a stock person help, butcher (lots of fine carving tools could have come in handy), fellow shopper, etc? A random weirdo doesn't concern me as much as the way the general populace reacts/responds. (i.e. apathy=bad)

I won't second guess the mom's response, since everyone reacts different when directly confronted by a threat.

But so much for motherly protectiveness.

And yeah, it'd have been a cool ending if the butcher had come out and whacked off his arm or something. :)

Jab at his brain steam, and all of society benefits.

I think I read that in the Bible somewhere!

;)

But cut off both arms, and he's likely to bleed to death. ;)

Besides, I wouldn't wanna jam his brain stem. That would keep him from feeling the pain.

I'd want the ba$tard to suffer.

...but another movie quote just came to mind:

"I'll pull you out of that one bunk Hilton and cast you down with the sodomites..."

Say what you will about inmates, but people that beat on kids are pretty low on the pecking order (or high, if you want to use the word 'pecking' in a different way).

;)

I had a buddy who went in the pen for involuntary manslaughter. He told me what they did to a dude that was convicted for rape of a teenage girl.

It wasn't pretty. I promise.

But well deserved, I am sure!

Was bound for county lock up after being "falsely accused" of assaulting a 17 year old girl. The parents asked me for advice. I said if you believe him then you don't need to let him spend more than hour in county lockup because word gets around.

He spent 24 hours in lockup for whatever reason. He ended up losing an eye he was beaten so badly and needed plastic surgery to fix his face. He also took a few rectal stitches. Granted if he was guilty he deserved it. But if mom and pop were using tough love [i]and[/i] he was innocent, boy did he pay for it.

That's just county. Actual prisons are horrible if you've ever been inside one. Stuff you see and hear about them pales in comparison to experiencing it. Even being a visitor\contractor and being free to leave at will is unnerving. You're locked in there with them. In the event of lockdown, depending on where you are located...you stand a good chance of the goon squad coming in to put everyone (your non-convict-self included) down and ask questions later.

posting at the wrong level!

I hear that they leave internal damage -- not external :)

What the criminal justice system doesn't do to you the things you deserve in a courtroom, the inmates you have to show your file to when you go in will surely dispense to you in a shower or in your own cell or in the common area.

Vigilante justice does have its uses on occassion.

:^0 :^0 :^0

by karydavis Sep 3, 2009

...seriously, I'm having issues concentrating on my job today because of this.

My fiance pointed out I may be overreacting, and he may be right, but my hackles are high just thinking about this large, grown, ugly-@$$ man grabbing a little girl and slapping her 4-5 times...

This story has really struck a nerve with me on so many levels....

level 1. This jerk-wad actually thinks he has the right to hit someone's little girl...

level 2. No one intervened after the first slap, the little one had to endure 3-4 more because no adult was cognizant enought to take this @$$wipe down after the initial grab...

level 3. That this guy lived to actually be arrested...

level 4. um...once I get over my anger I may be able to articulate this one...

...once he goes to prison, he's going to reap the rewards of karma. With lots, and LOTS of interest.

The bad thing is that the taxpayers will end up flipping the bill for the dentures (both top and bottom) and frequent trips to a proctologist.

by karydavis Sep 3, 2009

... that knowledge will bring me some comfort.

I'm a mother of 3, grandmother of 6...and whenever I see someone in the store with a crying child...either tantrum throwing or just whiney...I always flash that parent an understanding smile.

Gosh I hope I get over this soon.. .I gots stuff to do!!!

*goes off in search of her much needed meds*

however, I have spent a good portion of my life around them -- usually a bit older, but quite a few under 4 yrs old.

Personally, I do understand when the tantrums start, it aint easy sometimes to control them -- not like there is a mute switch (without pepper spray ( :0 ) -- especially with all of the laws in place for protecting them.
On the other hand, even though I dont have kids myself, I like being around them and have a protectional instinct that kicks in.

Preferably, one of those boutique hot sauces you find in places like Nawlins. "Ring of Fire" is a personal fave.

Open goes kid's mouth to cry.
Quick reach into diaper bag produces bottle.
Drip drip onto tongue goes the sauce.
Wait 5 seconds.
Whip out bottle/sippy cup of milk/water, and you have silence.

Why resort to hitting when Mother Nature (in the form of the habanero) produces a natural remedy for tantrums??

or Rum, they will be a bit too saucy to worry about crying :^0

You'd feed a kid habanero??????

Damn. My mom used to use tobasco. That's also a good thing to use to teach a kid not to suck their thumb.

When they are asleep, put a tiny dab on their thumb. They'll learn in their sleep not to do that. That's what my mom had to do with my sister rather than pull her thumb out of her mouth every 10 minutes.

by boxfiddler Hot topic Sep 3, 2009

for thumb sucking, too. :^0

:)

I'm old school, I believe in disciplining your children and sometimes that calls for a swift pop on the butt to get their attention.

This guy though, if he smacked my kid like that [b]I[/b] would be in the paper for beating an old guy within an inch of his life at WalMart!

I think a smack on the butt is okay to a certain age. I think when kids can communicate and you can address it with them as fully comprehending beings and explain to them, the smack on the butt is stretching it.

Besides, the stinging only lasts a few minutes. Taking away their phone, tv, radio, iPod, Xbox, etc., makes them regret it longer.

But yeah... for a 2 year old like the age of that little girl, a smack on the butt is a negative reinforcement she'd understand better than having right and wrong explained.

And yeah, me too. Someone came up and smacked my kid, I'd be in the paper for murder.

I've always viewed suspension of privileges as a kind of light punishment. I got my a$$ whipped at 10 or older and I turned out just fine.

:)

A girl I went to college with was the daughter of the assistant warden of Mac Alford Correctional Institution (called "Big Mac").

I was taken for a "tour" of the place. Not the kinda place I'd wanna call home.

My buddy told me that the guy who raped the teen girl was raped repeatedly, beat down several times and spent weeks in the infirmary. He said after it slowed down on him, he never spoke a lot and followed orders.

That's why I try not to beat people up. I don't know how well I'd do in prison. I tend not to give up and would probably get killed in the first fight I had with someone who knew how to fight...or the first one who had a shank.

No feeding perfectly good rum to a kid. Give it to me and keep me shut up! :^0

my uncle tells of me, they tried and I got a taste for hot and spicy things.
By the time I was 5 or 6 (he couldnt remember) he said I would 'drink a bottle' of tobasco

My family thinks I'm nuts when I do that.

I drink tobasco/louisiana hot sauces from the bottle (I love the flavor!)

I eat jalapenos straight (I even put them on salads when I have them)

I love hot and spicy food. I've just had hot sauces now that border on absurd. The "heat" overpowers their flavor.

I have some stuff at home called "Da Bomb Beyond Insanity", which is supposedly the #3 hottest sauce made. You can put 1 drop in a gallon can of beans and it will spice them nice. One drop will set ya on fire for about 1/2 hour.

I had some stuff once that was 1.5M scoville units, and it was insanely hot. Given they have extracts now that measure upward of 7M, I would fear trying that stuff.

I'd feed them sauce made from the habanero. Easier to tote around and doesn't go bad as quickly!! ;)

Seriously, though, I actually am pretty lucky. Both daughters are well-behaved in public. Thank Heaven for mom's influence!

With a son on the way, though, I'm not betting on going 3-for-3. May need to visit Nawlins soon to stock up on some sauce! :)

Just go online.

Go to New Orelans for the Hurricanes (drink at Pat O'Briens...not Katrina-like stuff lol) and the "Hurricane 190" if that little slushy shop still exists about 2 blacks up on Jackson St from Canal.

I think it was basically Tang with Everclear. I got a 44 oz one for $7 back in 1995, and that thing lasted me 3 hours and I was PLASTERED the whole time. :^0

I miss Nawlins :(

I was in Costco last week, and there was this mother/daughter. The girl was in the cart and looked to be under 5 yrs.
anyway, everytime the mother turned her back and walked more than 5 steps, the girl would cry out that her mom had gone too far away.

The chain was attached without any real chain

I don't know at 10. It really depends on the maturity and intelligence of the child.

I got my ass whipped past 10, but when helping raise my niece I didn't smack her butt past 3. Of course at 3, she was able to use a PC and could read fully and all. I always told her: "I'm not going to lie to you. If I have to spank you, it's going to hurt you a lot more than it will hurt me. Guaranteed."

She understood how big I was and how strong, and she minded well. I just always explained to her why she couldn't have her way. And if she cried, I told her crying wouldn't get it for her. That maybe if she was really extra good and nice, I might change my mind. That always gave her incentive to help clean, come when she was called, etc.

I think the punishment has to fit the kid...that's all.

by snuffy09 Sep 3, 2009

they will find a Young kidnapped girl in his back yard. he looks like a dirty old man.

...to wear Eau De Perv after shave.

Hopefully, the look into him more than just giving him a slap (No pun intended) on the wrist and lame community service.

Oh man, I've seen that before. Kids will make the mom keep them right next to them.

If my kid did that, it'd be finding the meanest sitter for them to have without having some abusive moron.

Then when they complained, I'd say "Well, if you behaved well I'd let you go."

Of course, my kids will probably be too smart for me. That's usually the case anyways. :^0

I was down at Ft. Hood visiting family.

We ended up going to the PX for one reason or another.

There was a little boy who picked up a video game, and started "Daddy, Daddy can we buy...."

Daddy quickly looked down at junior and flashed him 'the look'. No words were exchanged. None needed to be. Junior patiently stood in line next to daddy, and exited the store quietly.

Hooah! :)

Must be something in the water.

My dad was in the Army at Ft. Hood, TX. That's where he met my mother.

And when my dad gave me "The Look", I shut up too.

Of course, my dad was 6'5", about 275, and pretty much solid muscle. :^0

Everyone, guards and inmates said that if you fight as an inmate the only way to survive is to fight with the intent to kill the other guy no matter what it is over. Chances are you'll be stopped, but otherwise you'll be marked.

Fighting skills or not, it is different in there from what I hear. Lots of so called tough guys get taken down quickly because they aren't used to multiple attackers going in for the kill.

Either way, I know I wouldn't last a minute alone. Although I'd like to say I'd fight to the death, rumor has it few get the opportunity. They get beat into submission, beat unconscious or just held down by enough guys to get the job done. None of these outcomes are acceptable by my standards. :)