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I have discovered several NT Workstation 4.0 systems on our network that are creating multiple user profiles. They are all NT 4.0 with SP4 an upgrade to a different SP is not an option and Microsoft has not indicated this to be the problem. So farthe only fix we have found is a complete rebuild. This is very time consuming as well as annoying. They do not have anything specific about the platform that is common. The registry is of ample size and there are not authintication problems. I have also encountered this problem on a PDC on a different network. Microsoft has to as yet provide me with an answer. Only serious answers will be given credit so dont waste time trying to get that 600 points unless you know what it takes to fix the problem.

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by jeffwatt

Don't worry, I'm not after yout 600 point yet. Can you give us a bit more info?

Is that PDC/BDC on SP4 too?

Are these workstations on a domain or workgroup?

When you say multiple user profiles, do you mean multiple profile directories for the same user on the same computer?

How many users (roughly) in your domain?

Do your users properly log out of their workstations, or do they regularly just power them off?

Have you been experiencing any type of network problems?

Local orroaming profiles?

I've got no definite answers for you, but I do know of some things that can cause this type of behavior. We saw it a lot with the local copies of roaming profiles...turned out to be network problems were causing the "other" profiles to become corrupt so NT would create new ones.
Also saw this when users would just power off their PC's, again, corrupting the profiles (usually the user's registry file).

by jeffrey.grant

To answer Jeff's questions...
1) I hope you are after the 600 points. I put them up there to get an answer. Obviously I deem this a tough question if I am offering that many points. However, if anyone else would like to ask questions please dont post answers.. EMAIL ME.
2) The PDC is running SP6a
3) Domain
4) Yes
5) 5000+ Not that I understand why that matters
6) I dont know. I assume they log out properly, but I cant watch 5000 people...
7) No
8) Local

by Former member

Well forgive me, but about that emailing comment: You post a comment, giving US more info, so ALL can see and ALL can have a better idea of what you're talking about. Then more people can give you an answer. Do not reject a post if it has a question, because the poster can still post addition comments to his answer. Then you can rate the final answer.

For example, Local profiles are normal. There is no issue here, as you have explained it (and it is unclear at best). Perhaps you can clarify the phrase, "Multiple user profiles"? Does this mean that a user has many of the same profiles on one workstation? Or is it just one profile for each user? Everytime a new user logs in, a local profile is created. It is by design in NT. And in my many years of NT experience, I have never found a need to even be concerned with them, as they are vital to user-specific settings and prefences, and user-specific file placements. Forgive me if you already knew this...

by Former member

Now that the problem is clear, I do not have a solution off-hand...

by ronnonf

Whenever a user logs onto an NT box a profile is created. This can be stopped by either having the users user roaming profiles (stored at a central location) or do not allow specific users to access this server.
Another idea which I am not sure about can be to force the machine not to create a new profile for each user account and have them use the default user profile instead. I might have read this on Microsoft Technet.

by jeffrey.grant

Perhaps I shouldn't have rejected The first answer. That was an error on my part. I will leave yours unrated to see if you have a solve.

However, I feel the need to be more specific in what I am looking for. I am not looking for suggestions to try. I am and MCSE and have investigated this problem thoroughly with Microsoft going through their suggestions of things to try. The person with the answer to this question is going to look at it and say.... Hey, I have encountered that one before, here is the problem.

To answer your question, which I did address in my above comments. Yes, by multiple profiles, I Do mean for the same user. It creates the first profile say.. jagrant for instance then after logging back in later it creates a second.. jagrant.000 profile then a third... jagrant.001 profile... etc...

I my many years of NT experience and administration, I have never found this to be a normal phenomenon. It usually means a corrupt ntuser.dat file. However, that isnot the case in this situation.

by gary sharp

Quick question - are you running Netware client, cos this is a well known prob with netware clients.

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by jeffrey.grant

Yes the workstations are running Novell Client 4.6. However, the PDC that did it only runs NT, no Novell on that network at all...

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