Please use the revolving door

had turned into a loonie, but it seems not.

I think people just don't understand what the revolving door is doing energy wise...

that or the company is full of bad-@sses that don't play by the rules :p

Where have you been, [i]loony tune[/i]?

I actually work in a small satellite office of a large company, and rarely go into "The Big-Smoke" as they say (aka: city).

I've never thought about revolving doors and their contribution to energy conservation, but now that you mention it, it makes sense.

But wait, what if some kids gets on one of the doors and starts spinning it incessantly? Won't he cause more air-con to be sucked out (or outside air in)?! :)

By the way, yes, good topic!

Personally, when I have to visit the city for work, I like the revolving doors. They're a bit of a novelty for me as we don't have them where I live!

DM

Like the Obama spammer. Almost a take on "don't let the door hit you in the A** on the way out".

Its a great title for a discussion because everyone has their own interpretation. I never thought it was really about revolving doors.

I personally don't like them. I use them if they're there and to be honest with you, I think the hermetically sealed buildings could use a little fresh air anywhere they can get it. I never really thought about why they are there, but now that I know, I'm going to use the standard hinged door.

Forget about saving energy. The air in most of the hermetically sealed, energy saving buildings is absolutely toxic and full of germs. If I use the standard hinged door, I'm doing everyone a favor by letting in some fresh air.

I guess I'm one of those environmental loonie tunes, but as a person that works in one of those sealed up, toxic environments, I'm sick of breathing the same old stale, germ-filled air for years.

AV

I do use revolving doors, and I do consider myself environmentally conscious, but not rabid.

Once upon a time, I was working for a Member of Parliament. We (conservatives) were in opposition, and the Prime Minister Trudeau was someone that brought out strong feelings, people loved him or hated him. You can guess which way I felt.

Anyway late one night I left my building and went to the members entrance for Centre Block, where Parliament and the Senate sit, and where the important types have their offices.

I start pushing on the revolving door, when I realize there is someone coming out. Its PM Trudeau. I thought mischeviously of giving just a little extra push at the end just to startle him. Then I see the non smiling security man behind him and think better of it. A good thing too.

I've come to respect the man for his intellect. But there are other aspects that I will never respect.

As for your example, I wonder if people understand the benefits of the revolving door and are choosing not to because they can. If the other doors had a sign on them that said, "Save the environment, use the revolving doors" maybe a few more people would do it. Sometimes shame is effective where altruism fails. Sadly that reflects badly on human nature.

Is the name you would be calling these non-comforists. From what you've outlined, these people would happily bypass, or even choose not to see the sign, because of a few possible reasons.
1- They have always used that door, and people won't change for no-one, no-how.
2- Their ease and comfort of access to the building outweighs (or at least, in their own mind) what ever reasons the landlord has requested the door to be bypassed.

They could always lock the door. Forcing people to change is sometimes the only way to do it.

Legionnaires.

Using outside air as the main source, which is standard design procedure - regardless of whether the vents are being cleaned or not - is the relevant factor. Fresh air or recycled air both go through the same filters. Buildings use fresh air. Airliners, on the other hand, ........... ??????

tied with a certain klutziness that makes it difficult to enter and exit a revolving door. The smaller the revolving door, the less likely I am to use it. The faster it revolves, the less likely I am to use it.

Not everyone is as graceful and coordinated as revolving doors require. Then there's that teeny weeny space...

I'm environmentally conscious. I recycle, I garden organically. I encourage a wide variety of insects and birds to make my yard their home. I set my A/C to 82 and my heat to 50 (to keep pipes from freezing). I heat with wood...

I refuse to expect anything in particular judging by post titles.

etu

..... may be legitimate. But one in ten?

P.S. I really just liked the title of the discussion that came to mind. I thought I'd post it and see what it stirred up.

Oh my! Take me back to the JC Penney store in downtown Kansas City, circa 1960. I rode my mother mad!

P.S. That didn't sound quite right! But I'm sure you get the picture.

Escalators. I had trouble with those for a long time, too. Easily into my thirties...

etu
(Where's the tearing my hair out emoticon when I need it?)

I don't know anything about building ventilation, but I do know that if someone if sick, it spreads throughout the building quickly. Its airborne. The ventilation system provides fresh air and there are uptake vents, but it doesn't take the germs out.

AV

I won't debate it anymore - regardless of who may or may not be more correct.

But it still doesn't answer the question of why 9 out of 10 people don't use the !@#$%^&* revolving door.

P.S. Can we have your governor? Our governor's race is turning a disaster, or a fiasco - or both!

who don't use them do so for the same reason:
it's harder to go through the revolving door, because you have to move the mass of the door.

if the doors had a power assist or didn't have the same weight then it would be less of an issue.

and I have heard stories of power assist revolving doors not having a safety cutoff for when someone gets stuck / falls. not likely I know.

Whenever, it seems, we try to reproduce Mother Nature, whether in the air we breath, or the "milk" we compound for babies to drink, we leave something in -- or out -- that we think we understand, but don't.

]:)

Are not objects of trust, right?

Apparently I am an Anthropomorphist, so there is the grounds for distrust.

"you wouldn't like me when I'm angry" right? ;)

and come back again.

Was what I thought.

But yeah, people don't like funnels or sluices. Makes them realize that they're rats running a maze, and that's so 1950's.
People also tend to fill up a bus one person to a two-person seat until no such empty two-seaters are available, only then filling out the rest.

I own the stars.

That's the brake, you know.

is knowing which exit to take.

Just asking.

you sell something back to the peddler that sold it to you in the first place.

(I think it is in the Oxnard Dictionary).

or the perception of it...
Revolving doors so slow a person down.
The purpose of going through any door is to get into a building, or room. The normal average person just want to do just that, nothing more, and in the fastest possible way.
Open (a normal) door, you're in.
The mass of people will always find the quickest, easiest, way to do anything. It's just how all animals are wired.

Knowing you, I thought it was going to be about illegal aliens.

No, I did not realize the function of a revolving door. I don't think many people do.

As you point out, a revolving door is more inconvenient if you're encumbered. With a hinged door, I can put down a package and open the door with a single motion. If it has a closing mechanism, I can hold it open with my foot. A revolving door requires continuous pressure to keep it moving, and there's no way to use my feet to aid the process. Pushing on the door when my hands are full can be difficult to impossible.

We don't have many where I live. I saw one for the first time in years at a new Chinese restaurant last week. It was cumbersome leaving with my two bags of take-out. They had similar signs posted, and no one used the hinged doors during the short period I was there.

Glad to hear you frown on out right waste.

There is more chance of injury / embarrassment with a revolving door.

Most things in life boil down to the lowest point.

A hinged door is simple, efficient, flexible to situation, and singularly controlled.

Revolving doors create higher restrictions on pace, quantity, load, and travel distance.

I would theorize that two hinged doors in series would receive more usage than a revolving door and yield 50% of the benefit.

I detest those moving walkways in airports because every time I get on one I end up passing one of those Geico "So easy a cave man can do it" advertisements and it really gets to me!

when the revolving door

is one of those iron bar outdoor types that only lets you out,

like they use in the NYC and probably other subways.

Our local Los Angeles arboretum has one of those. Thankfully, if you are in a wheelchair or otherwise so inclined you can exit thru the gift shop.

I've seen people get caught and confused in them.

I haven't seen it happen but they look suspiciously like egg or tomato slicers with those rows of sharp wires :)

I guess I was hyphenated when I wrote that. I'll leave it be so that you can make sense.

I think thats why most people don't use it.

No, you can't have our beloved Governor. I thought Tom Tancredo was throwing his hat in the ring? Sounds like its becoming a real 3-ring circus out there.

AV

And either or both of his likely replacements.

and it throws a digital Chuck Norris through walls. :p

If there are side doors available, I refuse to use those darn gerbil wheels. Some idiot always pushes it fast and it hits me in the heels, or I get something caught, or whatever.

If you want to force me to use it, then take the doors on the side out an replace them with a wall.

I'm plumb goofy sometimes... :p

I think I can probably say I pretty much always use the revolving door whether it is requested by sign, or not.
I never really contemplated the environmental impact, even though I do try to do my part. I have just always enjoyed going round in circles I guess. :p :D

That is - at least on the northern hemisphere - counterclockwise.

My bike has a counterclockwise pedal brake. So backpeddling/backpedaling won't get me far.

Speaking of widdershins, if revolving doors on the northern hemisphere go tuathal, do they then go deiseil on the southern?

(I had to go for the gaelic tuathal/deiseil - widdershins doesn't have a reverse)

Of HAL's airlock. I imagine his grinning, leering command of the controls.

I refuse to use a revolving door unless I'm the only one using it. I do not like my pace being dictated by someone else. My motto is, "Crawl on your time, not mine."

For a few people, a revolving door is fine. Once you reach a certain number then a revolving door is much to cumbersome. At 2 people every 3-5 seconds, (remember, a revolving door is generally full-duplex) vs. a single door letting far more people in or out at a time, the bottleneck definately becomes the revolving door.

I like it - Apple jokes. Brilliance.

Yea, Tom's throwing his hat in - as a third party candidate. The Republicans have imploded, and the Democrat is in hiding, refusing to answer tough questions, but basking in the Republican's misfortune, I'm sure.

I like Tom Tancredo, but his chances of winning are probably 1-10, 2-10 at best.

He'll get little or no support from registered Democrats, and if he gets 50 percent of registered Republicans and 50 percent of the unaffiliated, he'll still lose by 20 percentage points. For him to win, he'll need to get either ALL of the Republican or ALL of the unaffiliated, along with ~70 percent of the other. And that ain't gonna' happen.