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i have a pc (p4 1.6ghz, 256mb ram and 40gb hdd) just freshly install to windows 98 with lotus smart suite v9.6, lotus notes r5, norton antivirus corperate edition v7.6 and some ms. office viewer program.

The problem is that i cant run scandisk/defrag in windows mode even in safe mode. I kept running into the this error message telling me that my system doesnt have enough memory to perform that operation and ask me to quite some program to free some memory.

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by opatzg9

What you need is an old fashioned DOS setup in your config.sys with a virtual drive setup like a recovery disk would use. Here's some of the commands for the config.sys file, you wuill need to find where the files are and modify for your pc.

DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\RAMDRIVE.SYS 14000 128 150 /E

You may or may not need the noems on the emm386 line, I can't remember whether thats for no extended or expanded memory.
Hope that helps

by opatzg9

One other suggetion for when in safe mode hit

Should bring up a close program box, close everything but explorer which is the windows shell and then try scandisk.
Good Luck

by thechas

Have you installed any Windows updates since installing 98?

If so, did that include IE6?

I have seen IE6 cause a serious memory leak in W98.

The 'best' solution, is to go back to IE5.5

A work-around is to install a memory manager such asMemTurbo.

You can check memory usage by running resource meter. (Programs / Accessories).

Another idea, is to update your motherboard drivers.
The default W98 drivers do not know the newer chip-sets and may not be accessing the RAM or the system buss effectively.

Chas

by 7nt

Try running scandisk and defrag in safe mode. As soon as the computer boots, press and hold down the CTRL key until the menu appears on the screen, then select Safe Mode. This will prevent most non-system programs from loading, one of which may be hogging your memory.

by dragonnite

Try This: Uninstall Norton Antivirus Corperate Edition, reboot, then try scandisk and defrag. Windows 98 and High-End Norton and Norton Suites sometimes conflict. Which Win98 version are you using? 98 or 98SE?

by zlitocook

If you cannot run scandisk or defrag in safe mode try using a 95 or 98 boot disk. You should at least be able to run scan disk, if you get to many errors it could be a bad hard drive. You should back up files and reinstall.

by fred07

Hi, have been there done this, several workarounds
First, Start over with a full format making sure the old MBR [master boot record] is erased and use a good 98 boot disk. I have had corrupted installs cause this.
Second, I now use Norton System Works, as it doesn't give a damn about windows and works well to optimize your hard drive. Also has GO BACK in it as well as other sometimes usefull utilities.
Other, Pulled hair out over not quite seated RAM and small registry errorscausing this problem. Have seen this in ME and because of other problems with ME I no longer use it [ME]. You did not say who's HD but I always use Western Digitals Lifeguard or Maxtors Maxblaster as initial formater, then use my 98se boot disk frommicron as it auto cabs the 98 install. The WD and Max are available at their respective web sites.
Hope this helps.

by mightyyoungfai

Can i do it without re-formatted my pc, cause it way to much trouble for me?

That would be an advantage if the problem can be solved.

Thanks

by nettek

This is caused when your hard disk is larger than 8 gigabytes in size and has a cluster size less than 8 kilobytes.

This configuration could not be accomplished via Windows, so you must have created it by using a third-party disk partitioning tool, such as Partition Magic.

You need to contact the manufacturer of the partitioning software. They should be able to supply you with their own defrag software.

by dmiles7

Many people have problems running ScanDisk and/or Defrag, with the program running 10% or 30% and then stalling. Often with a message that Windows is trying to write to the drive. To run ScanDisk/Defrag successfully:

Go to Start > Run and typemsconfig in the Open: box
On the General tab, uncheck all items listed under Selective startup (make sure that Selective startup is selected)
Hit apply and OK and restart Windows
This starts Windows with only the basics running; Insures nothing will interfere with ScanDisk and Defrag
Run ScanDisk and Defrag, when ready go into msconfig and select Normal startup and restart Windows

by mightyyoungfai

is it better to start the pc with safe mode, cause there is not a single driver is uploaded for services.

by ctmoore1998

First check your Config.sys for any files and buffers settings if they are present max them out files=255 buffers=60 If they are NO statements in either config.sys or autoexec.bat go to web.attack.com click on freeware and download a memory tester to ensure that your memory is good. If it tests good then try putting the following cmds in config.sys
device=c:\windows\himem.sys
device=c:\windows\emm386.exe

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