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by tig2
Don't.
This is a forum of technology professionals. No one will knowingly help you or anyone else to hack into a system.
Might I suggest that Google may help you to find the answers you seek?
Incidentally- posting such gives honest, hard working Indians a bad name. I know many such who would never dream of hacking a system. Unfortunately, we have gotten this very same question from a large number of unethical Indians such as yourself. Kindly re-think how you wish to present yourself on the global stage.
by joet
Who cares who he is and what his nation of origin?!?!?!!
I've needed to "hack" into plenty of systems where the client has forgotten their password.
It's a very legitimate question.
And this response is downright, racist.
-- Black African brought to US 450 years ago by "free thinkers" like this person.
by tig2
In this forum, you will not find anyone who will knowingly assist in hacking a password. It's possible that if you have been around a good long while, developed a few relationships, and the like, you might prevail on someone to help you out... via peer mail.
Over the last several months we have been asked that question in one form or another... by Indians. This has happened often enough to have been remarked on by more than one person.
The question on it's face is considered to be unethical. I merely pointed out that one person acting badly can cast shadows on the whole of a people. That is a valid observation.
Do not assume that you know my race. Nor should you assume that you know the content of my character.
EDIT to add: We have all had to hack a system at one time or another. As you rightly point out, people forget passwords. However, we learned how to do that in school or by other means. We did not ask for that information to be published on the Internet. Given the need for security, we all know better.
so you haven't yet gotten tired of this question. It's usually asked a couple of times a week, normally by someone who joined the same day they ask this question, rarely with any explanation of why the asker doesn't have the password. As TiggerTwo noted, for some reason the majority (70-80%) of these requests originate from India or Pakistan. I'm not exaggerating this; check the Forum backlogs for yourself.
Think of it as someone who just joined a hunting club, and at the first get-together he attends the very first question words he speaks is to ask how to hunt a protected species. It doesn't make a very good impression when the first question you ask is how to crack a password, with no explanation of why you need to do it.
Tigger was actually quite polite. Most of the time this question is treated as the straight line to a joke, or as flame bait. Wait until you see one of w2ktechman's 500-word essays on how to crack a password. We'd appreciate it if you'd hang around and participate, but right or wrong, this question is never treated seriously here at TR, regardless of who asked it or where they're from.
by jdclyde
You do not know the posters, and being a posting member for a whole day does not add to your credibility.
Would not be surprised if the original poster and joet were one and the same, trying to shame people into giving out dumb advice because they don't have the skill to find out themselves.
Tig is a better person than you will likely hope to ever be.
by hal 9000
It mealy says that this is an unacceptable question here particularly posted in the format that it is. The fact that the poster is from India is immaterial and as they have listed this place as home so what? If they went to any half way decent IT Course they would have been taught how to do this and wouldn't need to ask particularly in the way that they did with no explanation. Perhaps you would like to open a computer for me because I ask that should be sufficient shouldn't it? :^0
But if you are so concerned why don't you supply an answer to the above question?
I don't because I'm legally Bound by LAWS here that would consider me guilty of a Crime if I helped someone illegally gain access to a computer/Network that they had no right to access. Perhaps you feel different about this but as this a a open Forum you need to remember that everyone can read this and it's likely to come up on a Goggle Search as well so the advice that you willing give to one person effectively becomes Public Domain which not many people want.
Col
by maecuff
by tonythetiger
by neon samurai
"Black African brought to US 450 years ago by "free thinkers" like this person"
You where personally braught to North America 450 years ago by "free thinkers" you clearly remember?
You've got to share that youth potion you've been drinking.
by djivan
"Incidentally- posting such gives honest, hard working Indians a bad name."
You assumed this person is an "Indian". The name could be Eastern European ... People of other nationalities and races do live in India.
"Unfortunately, we have gotten this very same question from a large number of unethical Indians..."
So, no one from any other race or nation, has ever asked this question ?
You crossed the line into racism when you directed your accusation to a specific race or nationality.
If you are Indian and you indentified your self as such up front, then that would have diffused how this reads. Or, substitute the word "people" for "Indian", and I have no problem with your statements.
by tig2
I made no assumption that the OP was Indian. His own profile identified India as his origin. But syntax of the original post was a further indication regardless.
At the time that this was originally posted, we had gotten a spate of same/similar questions all originating from the same geographical location. To this day, that is the source for a great many, however I do take your point. Anyone could ask the question.
My race is immaterial because I directed my comment to the fact that perception can be colored by a great many things. There was never any intent that it be construed as a racial remark but more a comment that negative thinking about any group of people can be colored as a result of the actions of a few.
by absolutely
TiggerTwo did not step over any line.
First, as she said, the person self-identified as "Indian".
Second, the rest of her remarks are understood by IT workers in all former British colonies, and most of the business world, in the context that India is a major emerging source of relatively inexpensive IT labor.
[i]"Unfortunately, we have gotten this very same question from a large number of unethical Indians..."
So, no one from any other race or nation, has ever asked this question ?
You crossed the line into racism when you directed your accusation to a specific race or nationality.[/i]
Whether you misunderstood, or intentionally obfuscated, is not my responsibility to determine. You are incorrect. That, I know.
[i]If you are Indian and you indentified your self as such up front, then that would have diffused how this reads. Or, substitute the word "people" for "Indian", and I have no problem with your statements.[/i]
The descriptor "Indian" was a reference to nationality, not race. You have no valid objections. STFU.
The U.S. government's spy agency uses the following method to break an administrator password:
1) Deprive the password of sleep. Use bright lights and loud annoying .MP3s, such as Wayne Newton, Vanilla Ice, "It's a Small World", or any song from chase scenes in the original "Scooby-Doo" cartoon.
2) Deprive the password of a sense of time. No clocks, no windows, no regular schedule or routine, no connection to a time server.
3) Eventually (on most systems, 90 - 180 days), the password will break and tell you everything you want to know. However, if you aren't getting results as quickly as you'd like, try water-boarding, random electric shocks, Happy Meals, Will Ferrell movies, or reruns of "ABC's Battle of the Network Stars".
by mgalloway777
However, if you aren't getting results as quickly as you'd like, try water-boarding, random electric shocks, Happy Meals, Will Ferrell movies, or reruns of "ABC's Battle of the Network Stars".
I enjoy all those things, that can't be torture.
Edit: Darn speeling
Try this: stick your Farrah Fawcett poster on the bathroom ceiling, over the tub. Load "Talladega Nights" into the DVD, start it, and get in the filled tub. When Ricky Bobby starts to say grace, take a big bite of your McBurger and knock the DVD player into the tub.
Let me know that works out for you.
www.contractortalk.com/showthread.php?t=8141
hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=95294
Send her back to my house; she still hasn't picked up her shoes from the last time.
Sorry; cheap shot. It was just a reflexive action.
by tig2
by shellbot
but I'm taking offence to the Happy Meal thing..
i like Happy Meals..they just the right size for lunch..plus well you know..there's the toys an all..gives me soemthing to do for the afternoon
I am having a good day and enjoy the light hearted conversation when in a good mood, especially from a fellow South Carolinian.
As for Palmetto, to give you another one.
Is that what happened to my red pumps, now i am pissed off. Wait till I get home.
by maecuff
by oz_media
Tig you're right, 100%. We don't help people do homework, and that is where these questions come up from mroe than often.
Perhaps your referral to Indians was a little uncalled for, but I am no better for the most part. Where I am from, Indians live in teepees and Asians or East Indian's live in the middle east.
But either way, it wasn't derogatory in intent.
Keep telling them off, when I miss one. Well done.
by the masses
by jdclyde
by hal 9000
Or maybe it's because I've been really sick not sure which though. Or maybe because I've been so sick and my lack of posts made Beth think that I've been [b]Extra Good.[/b] :^0
Beth was so helpful and I'll know better next time.
Col ]:)
by tig2
Catch me on a bad day during chemo. I won't miss the opportunity.
I'll probably even manage to screw up my "nice" persona.
So much to look forward to...
The fact that someone called me a racist- after the day I had yesterday- just burned my @ss. But I still can't bring myself to call someone a total moron... even when they beg for it.
You'll teach me how to do that? Tell someone to go outside and all? Cause right now, I have a list...
by jdclyde
by maecuff
You just open your mouth and say the words. Of course, there is fall out from time to time when you speak your mind, however, the rewards are great.
Don't let him bother you. You have so much to focus on right now. This is nothing and not even worth a glance from you.
by tig2
Even I know where your red pumps are. It's not like you are shy or anything!
And we wear the same shoe size. Amazing!
You are a very Naughty Monkey...
by hal 9000
So Mackers give out Gunnies Key rings which look like a half full glass to help the Irish Clients remember where they are.
After all Mackers spent a lot of money finding out the right thing to hand out with Happy Meals in Ireland and they discovered that if they handed out anything else they lost sales as their customers spent too much time playing with the toys. Now with a Half full glass of the [b]Black Brew[/b] they come back complaining that someone drank half of their drink and buy extra chips with that. :^0
Col ]:)
by gadgetgirl
wondered where they had gone. ;\
GG
]:)
AAAAARRRRRGGGHHHHHH!! Don't tell me you have the crotchless nix there too....???!!!
:0
by tig2
I thought you kept those closer to home!
Next thing you know, JD will be pounding on Palmetto's door looking for a chance to grab them.
I think that we should just send JD a pair for himself and save Palmetto the problem. But then JD will want the fishnets too and then where would we be?
We should at least get the heels back! Only fair and all that!
:D
by shellbot
its a shame they don't give real black stuff with the meal Col...but alas..we get the same toys as everywhere else..
not much of a barbie person myself..so i'd probably go for the hot wheels..for a while they were doing Polly Pocket..that was cool...can never manage to collect the whoel set though :(
Only as naughty as the law allows, well most of the time.
Palmetto
I will trade them for a red thong if you got one, I already bought new pumps. Loved the suggestion last night, had a great time. Did my wife make it there? I think her brake lines were c... er...um... I mean she was having car problems.
Note to self...Don't talk about anything that could be considered evidence.
edit for speeling
but right now they have the Monopoly game so I buy way too much food and give it to the homeless guy on the corner. He is pretty cool and I help him out when my wife hasn't broke me.
Or when I don't need new pumps because Palmetto stole them.
edit damn speeling again
by gadgetgirl
Tig - s'ok, these were the spares.... He fancied trying a pair, so to save cash I sent him mine by parcel post. Well, they're skimpy, crotchless, so they didn't weight much.....
Palmie - you gotta be kidding, dear. Mine were the [b] black silk [/b] crotchless ones. Remember? Came over the pond in a nice little parcel with a red ribbon which was lightly sprayed with my signature perfum by YSL
(gigglefit)
Norty - you forgot to forward Palmies suggestions to me for last night. You're sacked! Nooo, wait - I'll just tell your wife about the brake pipes.....
(muttleyfit)
oh, I did enjoy that!
]:)
GG
shhh....I'll give you a dollar if you don't tell. Besides I still haven't seen her since she left last night.
by hal 9000
Mackers deliberately leave out one of the set to keep you coming back to finish off the set. :D
Even if you ask directly for the one that you are missing you will be told [i]Sorry But we have run out of that one. Unfortunately no one ever asks how many they actually got which was the ones required for display purposes only and even those have been stolen by now.[/i] :D
Now Chill out and order [b]Extra Chips[/b] with that Mackers needs the money. :p
Oh BTW of course Mackers don't give you that [b]Evil Black Brew[/b] with their excuse for a meal [b]Drunk Children[/b] are even more annoying that sober children aren't they? :^0
Col ]:)
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by tig2
But that just doesn't fit me as well. And it opens invitations to flame wars... that we really don't need.
But I can hear him in my mind!
by big ole jack
Step 1. Grab a sledgehammer
Step 2. Swing sledgehammer quickly towards computer whose password you wish to crack
Step 3. Repeat Step 1 and 2 continuously
by w2ktechman
The problem with the sledgehammer is that you may only hit the desk, or a keyboard, making your attempts useless. This is a more accurate, and hence less destructive path, however it is a bit tricky and requires practice.
First, take off your shoes/socks. Soak your feet in dirty water (the dirtier the better).
Second, get out a small iron/steel pipe.
After the soaking, dump the rest of the water on the floor next to the computer to be cracked into. Now, simultaneously kick the monitor screen while plunging the pipe into the side of the system. repeat as necessary for the desired result.
NOTE: for the quickest desired effect, when kicking make sure that 1 foot is on the muddy floor.
ALSO NOTE: for the best results, when plunging the pipe into the syste, it is best to start at or near the power supply, and move towards the center of it.
Extra NOTE: This is in case someone is being a dumbass, but the monitor AND computer BOTH need to be POWERED ON for this to work properly. I know one dumbass that did not follow this and they could not get it to work right, no matter how many times they tried.
by roobee81
Original Poster (OP) joined TR 09/03/2007
OP asked first (only!) question 09/03/2007
TR joined ranks and flamed the OP
OP b*ggered off never to be heard from again!
...a bit like a certain conversation between an innocent old Scottish man and an American truck-driver's wife
...except you are still here!
by jaqui
by roobee81
Yes, I suppose you are right. Obviously, I was more genuine with my original question. lol
Old?? It says you are 40. My husband is 48. You are still just a young lad.
Also, someone's gotta fill the shoes of the least qualified person to post on TR.
by tig2
With WORK. Planning to email him BEER and WINE to assist with the cure.
(If you haven't got the first clue what I'm on about with this, it's in one of the Yuks somewhere)
:)
by tig2
He's not. I am.
This thread kinda explains why you got a crusty reaction from Mycroft, though. Fortunately, you were open enough to see that there were other agendas happening, and he was a big enough man to admit he was over the top. Hopefully, a win all around!
"[i]Old?? It says you are 40. My husband is 48. You are still just a young lad.[/i]"
Are you reading right?
I currently have 40 Thumbs, but sadly the two real thumbs on my hands are attached to a 52 year-old body.
I'm so old, I'm older than [b]CaptBilly1Eye[/b]
But if you insist, then I'm still a young lad.
Thanks for that!
by roobee81
52 is still not old. Old is my Grandmother who about to turn 90. Now that is old.
Oh, by the way I officially hate this stupid ******* laptop.
If it wasn't for a particularly steadfast, wireless laptop, you wouldn't be having to endure this stream of vitriol emanating from my failing brain then channeling through my withered fingers. (Poetic licence done to death here.)
My tower system is perfect for music, video, digital tv, but I couldn't be bothered always sitting at it to communicate with the rest of the world.
Laptops are the future of computing, until we all have chips implanted in our heads.
by w2ktechman
I loved the emailed BEER and WINE.
But it is far more than that dreaded WORK disease, I am coming here to relax from everything else...
I just moved, and it has been a headache, plus I am in school now that requires about 15-25 hours a week. While moving this has been the biggest hassle. But, trying to learn always is. Especially since after I read a chapter, I gotta go back and re-read the damned content or it all slips out of mind before the test. 3-5 chapters a week + LAB time -- ughh
I hope this is worth it!!!
then Comcast screwed everything up for me. I told them I was moving and I wanted my account moved with me. They told me to keep my cable modem and they would send someone out... They showed up with a different modem, changed my account #, and deleted my mailboxes, etc..
I guess payback was that when they hooked me up they had to re-wire everything back all the way to the telephone pole, going through 2 neighbors yards to do it. But even still, the access speed is less than DSL (at more than 2x the cost). If they dont fix my account, I am dropping them at the end of the month. I mean 12 min to load www.osh.com, 3 min for www.homedepot.com, and 5 for www.sears.com is a long friggin time. for osh, I went out had a smoke after timing it for 4 min, came back and still had to wait. I was afraid to try TR at home, so I have avoided it, that and busy cleaning and organizing (boxes everywhere).
I should be back more regularly in another couple of months, maybe a bit sooner, till then only time really is downtime at work.
I am dreading going back this Spring. Hope every thing gets packed and when they bury your cable they cut off their big toe.
[i]If they don't bury cable were you are now then I hope they fall off the pole.[/i]
by w2ktechman
by jdclyde
I think I would have to be [b]nice[/b] before I can start working on nic[b]er[/b]...
Scratch my albums? Now THAT is the Mae we have all come to love and fear..... ;\
:x
by maecuff
by oz_media
by siddh_patel
by big ole jack
Do you so called "IT Pros" in India have any ethics? Oh wait, never mind...coming from a country that pirates and copies everything and acts as if laws are somehow non applicable to them. Search for the thread about "Moonsoon Multimedia" and you'll see what I mean.
"Thank you..please don't come again"
by tig2
by tig2
Is a place of technology professionals. You want to give off hacking advice? Go down the hall and talk to the guy.
WE DO NOT EVER PROVIDE INFORMATION TO PEOPLE SEEKING HACKS OR CRACKS. WE DO NOT SUPPORT ANYONE WISHING TO PIRATE SOFTWARE.
We are professionals and we simply do not condone those practises- EVER.
Anyone is welcome to participate. NONE are welcome to break the code of ethics that govern. Period.
OK. Maybe I'm not nice. At least in certain situations.
by douglasemc
by roobee81
I hate the computer techs at Best Buy. If they don't replace my hard drive I am going to shove it where the sun don't shine. How do you fry a hard drive replacing the optical drive?
Well, I wish I was on a steadfast, wireless laptop. But, alas I am on a regular home PC. Oh, well. Next computer I am getting for ME I am going to get a apple laptop.
by big ole jack
by tig2
But nice is always good.
Actually, we wouldn't have you any other way. Just remember that we strive for a delicate balance, especially when we are dealing with the less intelligently endowed.
:)
No real skills?
NO PROBLEM!
Just fake not knowing English, log onto a technical site and ask for someone to your job for you!
by big ole jack
This is an excerpt from the site:
"Some years ago I heard a female coworker screaming very loud outside my office. It turned out that an Indian PC support contractor (fresh off the boat) asked her to have sex with him because his wife was back in India and he lacked female companionship. She was more amused than offended and told him she had a boyfriend. So he said something to the effect of "you're not a chaste woman anyway - sleeping with a bf you're not married to - why won't you sleep with me too?" so she screamed real loud and went to HR. Shocking, the body shop that sent the dothead didn't fire him, but transferred him to another location."
http://www.panaryan.com/forum/showthread.php?p=45210#post45210
Now although I personally won't resort to racial slurs and name calling, the behavior portrayed in this excerpt is common among Indians who come "fresh off the boat" yet think their rudeness and outright forward sexual advances will be tolerated. They need to leave their cultural BS back home and learn how to properly behave in a professional environment.
by tig2
Some BEER and WINE. It is supposed to be the only cure!
Seems reasonable to me!
Once you are rid of the dread disease, don't let yourself become re-infected. Just say NO!
:)
by tig2
They are complete tech-know-nothings and didn't protect the drive when they fitted the new optical.
They will CLAIM that the drive was on its way out. But they will be able to PROVE nothing. And potentially, they won't have to.
I wish you were closer. But right now, a 6 hour drive is the other side of the world.
An HDD replace shouldn't cost you all that much. Check the yellow section for smaller shops that guarantee their work if Worst Buy won't take it.
After that, let's find you some online classes that will get you to where you want to be.
This is stuff you can learn. Let's figure out what you want to do and then figure out how to get you there.
Are all these requests coming from out-sourced "help desk" workers who are constantly up against a caller that can't do what the flow sheet tells them to do because of administrator privilege separation??
"...OK, I clicked on it and now it's asking me for the password for 'administrator'..."
"...well, put your password in there and click 'OK'..."
"..I don't know what the password is..."
Minion gets punished (further) for low percentage of fixes/customer satisfaction.
"Dear anybody: how do I break the administrator password?"
But if it's coming from a help desk, I'd expect questions on more topics than just cracking a password.
The pattern is pretty standard; create an account, ask about cracking a p/w, never return. If it was a help desk serf, at least some of the time the person's first question would be on some other topic, and they'd return with other problems. Also, much of the time the written English is below standard. A help desk vassal would at least be able to read their troubleshooting menus, and be able to correspond at a similar level.
by oz_media
by oz_media
And I certainly hope you didn't take any offense to my descriptions or separation of what different peope consider Indians.
I actually refer to native indians as just that Native Indians and Indians from the Middle East a East Indians (even though that is somewhat regional, everyone understands which race you are referring to and people of that race rarely get offended by the reference.
With respect to passwords, I agree with you it should just be a key, hackable/hotwireable but a lot easier.
As far as people posting here ot get Admin passwords, most of teh tiem it is someone asking a textook question to pass an exam as opposed to understanding and learning it themselves. It gets tiring as it happens ALL the time, often several times a week.
If you need hacks and passwords, there are box projects for that stuff, astalavista.box.sk for example. This is not the place for such BS, that's for kiddies and hackers, they have enough forums.
As for Native Indians, having been exposed to the traditions of most of the four nations, I can confidently say that if I wasn't born in Christian England, I'd rather be a Canadian native, living for my people, my history and my land, not someone else's ideals. A much more grounded and realistic approach to life...well....maybe just a small casino to pay the bills. :)
by bruceslog
The original poster has web development background, at least according to his/her profile. Something as basic as this should already be within this persons knowledge if properly schooled. Otherwise, if the poster hasn't learned such basics yet, then they should
a) go back to school
b) hand the equipment over to someone with the proper knowledge to repair it.
c) Not come online asking a tech forum how to break into a system
d) consider another career... one wherein the poster does not have to ask how to break into something.
by jdclyde
return the laptop to the rightful owner and give up his life of crime.
How often does ANYONE go into their BIOS? If he could have at least lied a little better about WHY he needs to change the password instead of act like it is US that is stupid instead of him....
by bruceslog
Ok, option
E)
is added to the list ;)
by tracy anne
OK, I buy the original was an unsavory being (whatever the reason) and not some poor help-desk type.
So... in reply to the original, here's how you can wipe the windows password clean off the machine:
1. download this iso and burn it to a CD:
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/dban/dban-1.0.7_i386.iso?modtime=1155481576&big_mirror=0
2. boot the machine with this disk, and immediately upon seeing the boot splash type "autonuke."
That's all there is to it! You will absolutely clear the admin and other passwords, like email, etc.
I do NOT lie! ;)
by jdclyde
I tried this on a coworkers pc and all passwords are gone!
You are a miracle worker! :D
by jdclyde
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