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July 13, 2009 at 03:59 PM
deadly ernest

Jesus was a Rabbi at the time of his final teachings

by deadly ernest . Updated 17 years, 1 month ago

OK, I’ve started a new thread on this as i just KNOW it’s going to get a little bit of discussion. This arose out of a comment on the Palmetto Bug thread and it was already at the maximum depth there.

The main evidence of this is the fact the existing church hierarchy had concerns about him and the way the people were following him. If he was just a lay person or a Teacher they wouldn’t have been concerned as he wouldn’t have had any authority. But his being a Rabbi gave them worry as that automatically gave him authority equal to all the other Rabbis.

Often, especially when asking about the meaning of religious things, the term ‘master’ is used instead of Rabbi as they have the same meaning.

Scriptural evidence of Jesus being a rabbi –

Matthew 22 is a major indicator as then it was wrong for a Jew to ask the meaning of texts and the value of religious teachings of anyone but a Rabbi. Yet we see:

15 Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk.

16 And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that thou art true, and teachest the way of God in truth, neither carest thou for any man: for thou regardest not the person of men.

17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?

18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?

19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.

20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?

21 They say unto him, C?sar’s. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto C?sar the things which are C?sar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s.

22 When they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way.

23 ?The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him,

24 Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.

25 Now there were with us seven brethren: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother:

26 Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh.

27 And last of all the woman died also.

28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,

32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

33 And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine.

34 ?But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.

35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

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In John we have the following:

John 1 –

37 And the two disciples heard him speak, and they followed Jesus.

38 Then Jesus turned, and saw them following, and saith unto them, What seek ye? They said unto him, Rabbi, (which is to say, being interpreted, Master,) where dwellest thou?
39 He saith unto them, Come and see. They came and saw where he dwelt, and abode with him that day: for it was about the tenth hour.
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46 And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see.

47 Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!

48 Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.

49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

50 Jesus answered and said unto him, Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under the fig tree, believest thou? thou shalt see greater things than these.

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John 3 –

1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

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John 6 –

24 When the people therefore saw that Jesus was not there, neither his disciples, they also took shipping, and came to Capernaum, seeking for Jesus.

25 And when they had found him on the other side of the sea, they said unto him, Rabbi, when camest thou hither?

26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.

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If you study the period and the way of the Jews then, there are many other indicators in the scriptures. But these are the most obvious, and easiest to note.

I’m sure a lot of people will object and say otherwise; mainly because they were taught different by their Bible Study teachers when younger. Just like the number of people who believe Jesus was a poor carpenter who made furniture for a living. He was the first born son of a first born son, etc, of the House of David. That’s kind of like saying Prince Andrew is a poor television documentary presenter. I strongly suggest you get a copy of the book ‘Jesus the Master Builder’ by Gordon Strachan, ISBN: 0863152953, and read it. It’s a real eye opener for the differences between the realities of life then and what many churches teach.

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