After Hours
It is with great regret that I bid you all farewell. I've been a member for a long time and I will miss some of you very much but I just can't stand the recent changes to TR. There are a few tech web sites out there that still care more about content and usability than 'pretty' and 'new'.
Max: Keep up the fight for the truth.
by ansugisalas
when we whip this place back in to shape, huh?
Well, just as long as you come back.
You don't have a Constitutional right to leave.
That's what people think, isn't it? If the right is not enumerated in the U.S. Constitution, then no right exists? That the U.S. Constitution defines rights granted to the people, not the powers the people grant to the government?
Okay, how's this:
You can't leave. You're one of the few people around here who agrees with me!
I don't like the new layout either. Just like I don't like the direction our country has taken over the past forty years. But that's no reason to leave either.
by boxfiddler
:(
FWIW. I don't like it either.
by purpleskys
by ansugisalas
by michael jay
We do know that change is not always easy and with it, come aspects that some folks don't like, while other aspects they do.
I myself have several things I just much prefer the "old" way. I have though learned to go with the times (even if I must go kicking and screaming sometimes).
While the pages that make up TR have changed - been given a new look, made social networking much easier, etc... there is one thing that hasn't changed - and that is the people contained within. No matter what pretty wrapping paper and bows you put onthe outside, the inside is what really counts - the people - you - the community.
I do hope you will rethink your decision and stick around.
-Tammy [_]3
Tammy, for some of us this is one of our social networks and I, for one, don't feel that it's been made easier.
One example. The simple act of clicking on a thread title no longer displays the thread's first post. OK, so scrolling down past "Just in" and "Top Rated" isn't an impossible chore but it's just [b]annoying[/b]. There are other annoyances as well, for me, but this isn't the place.
There may be ways for me to make this site work for me and give me what I used to have but, so far, I can't see how and I'm still undecided whethe it's worth the effort.
by jfuller05
One example. The simple act of clicking on a thread title no longer displays the thread's first post. OK, so scrolling down past "Just in" and "Top Rated" isn't an impossible chore but it's just annoying. There are other annoyances as well, for me, but this isn't the place.
I agree. This is so annoying. I've actually visited TR less since the "upgrade." I don't totally hate it because the content is still good, but the packaging is far from good. The packaging is just becoming more annoying with each visit. The main attraction of TR (for me) is the discussions and since they're screwed up, how can I enjoy TR?
is that they're displayed out of context. You don't know the previous posts that led to them, or what comments elicited those responses.
Most of y'all know I couldn't care less about 'social networking', especially 'Top Rated', 'Most Popular', etc. I might find some value in 'Just In' if it were treated like the old *NEW* flags, in a different color that makes them easy to pick out of the older content, but still in place within the conversation.
This isn't going to run me off, but I think these two features unnecessarily clutter a discussion. Combine this with the sort sequence in the Discussions lists ('Started On' vs. 'Last Modified') and I find the navigation to be more cumbersome that before. I also seem to be coming here less often.
I just use a black marker to block them out - course it does block other comments.. but it works very well at hiding all things I don't wish to see :-)
In seriousiness though - I do understand how it can get tiring to have to consistently scroll downward (in the comment threads, the main page of individual blogs, etc...). I tried clicking my heels three times to transpot myself right where I need to go - but their magic has all been sucked out fo them.
We are still doing some tweaking.. and while it will never be what it was... hopefully it will still be what many call home.
-Tammy [_]3
by ansugisalas
Trying to look like, or emulate a different kind of media, is entirely unconducive to TR's success.
People come here for one of three things: to access the resources, to ask for help or to follow or participate in discussions.
These things should be the first things to be seen when coming to the front page, IN BIG FRIENDLY LETTERS.
Similarly, everywhere, make it easy to see how to get where one wants, and once there, make it easy to see what is going on, there.
These are things that have to do with how TR is and how TR works. All style and appearance decisions should go from these premises, and right now, they haven't.
by hal 9000
But as I broke a leg a week or so ago I'm going to stay on just in case I'm kicking myself and am out of sorts.
Although after living through several TR [i]Updates[/i] I still fell that this has the most useless changes and is the hardest to come to terms with.
Col
What did you fall off? The roof? The Ducati? SWMBO?
Get well. :)
by hal 9000
I just slipped on the front steps. Not really sure how but I get to wear the consequences.
OH did I mention that it's [b]PAINFUL?[/b] I broke the femur at it's top where the muscles connect so it can not be immobilized but you get the immediate knowledge that you did something wrong. :D
I had to laugh at the quack from the Hospital complaining that I had so many broken bones that he couldn't examine me properly. After all the broken ribs should be just about right now even if they hurt a little when squeezed. :^0
What can I say it was embarrassing telling them what had happened. :(
Col
by nicknielsen
Put your head back in periodically and see if what was broken has been fixed.
I say this knowing that the last two TR 'upgrades' before this one didn't get fixed.
by ansugisalas
but I can't follow discussions or people. I don't think I'll be doing more than the odd visit when I finally realise that I can't quickly find out what's good and what's new and what's worth reading.
:(
I didn't have any trouble finding what was new before. Now I have to keep changing the default sort order. Now there's no way to identify any new content other than the newest item.
As to what was good or worth reading, a poster's reputation used to make that clear. I think 'Top Rated' tries to instill a sense of community, but it does so at the expense of developing one yourself via interaction with other members over time.
by cmiller5400
by ansugisalas
Worst thing about it, it's impossible to see how to do things.
It's impossible to guess what a setting will do, because everything is documented in some form of marketing/accountant/lawyer style that's sucked dry of concreteness. It's like they're afraid that if their interface is either intuitive or transparent or god forbid, helpful... then it will prove... what? Something bad? I can't tell, because it's wrapped up in cotton six inches thick!
And now here it's the same...
But if discussions die out, and nobody bothers asking questions anymore... maybe then they'll take it seriously?
EDIT: Actually, I just realized why LinkedIn is intentionally obscure like that... it's a dumb "insider advantage" game, where the point is that people find out how to do things if they intently follow what other people do. I can only say; rectal orifices!
by michael jay
"...it will never be what it was..."
A good thing got to be too much of what it was.
by nexs
Our repercussions, your business.
Either way, a voice will be missed until you return. You know that you will continue to pop in every now and again. If you don't know now, you soon will ;)
Of your perspicuousness.
Struck me that way, too.
by jfuller05
by maecuff
What's up with the new format. I know I haven't been around much, but this is just too much! It's hard to follow, hard to see what's going on..
Or am I just old and resistant to change?
by cmiller5400
by ansugisalas
There's a definite molasses factor, and the magnification makes for slow thread-skimming.
A lot of needed features are still in the hatchery, but let's see how it goes.
by av .
Its not enough to make me leave though. I hope you reconsider, because this site needs you. Just look at it! Its up to all of us oldies to help fix it and put it back to its former glory.
AV
PS: You know in your heart of hearts, that no one ever really leaves TR for long.
I'll have to get another interpreter.
Syaig that had about six months off once for ither reasons, but I agree with you about the new layout.
I find absolutely nothing to recomend it.
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