Okay, I have a question to ask, and reasoning behind it that I am going to post. BUT before I do. I need to ask TR – if this is out of line and doesn’t belong here, PLEASE delete this post/thread. My reason of asking, is I have discussed this with friends and coworkers and the response has been quite surprising to me. Here (on TR) we have a very diverse group of people, men/women, all around the world of all ages and very different upbringings and opinions. I am asking here because I am looking for a diverse set of answers. But I am NOT looking to start any fights, or cause any bad blood. If that is what is going to happen, PLEASE remove the post or DONT reply. This is meant to be done in a positive light. Also, Maxwell, I know you said you didn’t want to be involved in “non technicalish” threads anymore, but I am asking, if you have an opinion on this, please post it. I am curious as to what you have to say, should you have something to say.
My question:
What is the problem with gays getting rights for marriage?
Yes, it’s a short simple question, but it hits the nerves of so many people.
My reasoning behind asking this question is this. It was discussed on the radio on my way to work. I wasn’t in the mood to listen to a debate, so I turned off the radio. But for some reason, I couldn’t stop thinking about the topic.
I got this idea all of the sudden that was quite “deep” to me. I have asked many people about their opinions of my idea, and they all think that I am being silly. Completely out of line. But I don’t understand why. I just honestly don’t get it, and I am looking for someone out there that may be able to explain this to me.
My “deep” idea was that, as we went through blacks getting their rights from slavery. We went through women getting their rights. What if this is the next step? Gays getting their rights.
About me: (I feel in fareness I should tell you a little about me so no one can speculate or jump to conclusions.) I am a white male, 26 years of age. I am straight, married with kids.
My feelings of the whole gay marriage thing is why not let them have it? I really don’t get the big stink. They are human beings too. Before you say it’s against the bible or the law. Slavery used to be “right” and legal. You could see someones wealth by how many slaves they had. Back in those days, it was okay to have slaves, yet we know now completely the opposite. It is wrong, we can’t own people or treat them as property.
I don’t know much about the women’s rights movement, but I do know that there was a point when women couldn’t vote. That too has changed. We found we were completely wrong in our ideology and corrected it.
Doesn’t it seem logical that this would be the next step. Eliminating the discrimination.
I can take any one of you that are reading this, that are straight, cut you with a knife. Then take a gay person, cut them with a knife. Also, a black person and a woman. We ALL bleed the same. We are ALL the same inside. We are humans with individual needs. Why is it so wrong that a human who has a need towards someone of the same sex is all of the sudden wrong, and “hated by God” and majority of society? It just doesn’t make sense to me. Especially on the religious aspect. In your bible, it says, “God loves all of his children.” Was there a clause in fine print that says, “excluding homo’s”? I don’t recall ever reading that.
Long ago, it wasn’t validated that women and blacks were of the same level as “everyone else”. They were beneath us and treated accordingly, but we found we were wrong. And we have adjusted our thinking accordingly. Could that be what is happening now with gays? IMO, I hope so. I don’t care to see two dudes making out, kissing or really even holding hands, but that’s their thing, not mine. It’s not my place to judge.
Thinking back today, I started to think about how gay people were treated. Fifteen years ago, I could walk up to a gay person, call them a “fag” beat that person to the ground, and if the cops were called, they would more than likely look the other way. It was no big deal. It seems about ten years or so ago, that started to change. People started to become aware that just because of someone’s preference doesn’t change the person, and that they aren’t less of a person, but that they just walked to the beat of a different drum. It seems to have progressed up to now. I would think that what is going on in Massachusettes and San Fran would be to the likes of the peaceful protest MLK Jr used to hold. And the sit in on the buss by Mrs. Rosa Parks.
I hope that what we are seeing now is the “f” word will be going the route of the “n” word. A word that isn’t used. That we can look back on with shame that it WAS ever used, and leave it alone. Not forget it, but remember why we stopped.
There is more that I want to say, but I will leave it here for now, as this is really getting long and I could keep typing for a while.
Please though, PLEASE keep this thread civil! I am looking for honest, genuine answers. I am NOT looking for a flame war, or any hate to be brought to the table. We’re professionals, please remember that.
Mrafrohead