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by maxwell edison

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Why? I do not know.

Over the past ten years, I've been a little bit of Norm, Sam, Cliff, Frasier, Coach, Woody, and the unsuspecting patron who just happened through the door looking for a cold beer.

Some of you will get it, others will not.

Which are you?

Cheers!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6HI1pjfHlc&NR=1

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by santeewelding

I ain't letting you off so easy.

Get yo ass back on that stool. You got more within you than what you know. I'm pretty sure. Soon as I got no more within me, I'll let you know.

Don't see no end to either of us; not, yet.

I'm tempted, I'll let you know. I'm tempted to unhand the whole thing. You know: The whole top-down-thing-of-affairs, where the "PTB" cling to what is all they know. Newspapers, where I learned the old-fashioned way -- they are also going down the tubes, flailing, with what all they think they know. Which, ain't working.

Pursuit of excellence -- that's all I know. I think that is what all you know, too. If not here, then, where?

by tigger_two

When I walked away in July, there was no power on earth that could get me back. Heck- as far as I cared, I was gone in August of 2009.

Since then, I dealt with terminal disease, the loss of my precious husband, "friends" who weren't, pressure, stress. pressure, stress, and some pressure and stress. Today I have a father who is trying to die and wishes he could, a sister whose health is compromised, in-laws that I could write a book about, and widowhood at a WAY too early age.

You have completely pissed me off a few times. You have also been the light of my day. Everyone knows your name? I know [u]yours[/u], and it isn't "Quitter".

I get it- this whole re-design thing sucks rocks and the life you are living might not be giving you room for that. Been there. Notice anything different about my name? I tossed away my identity once because I thought it might make another poster more comfortable. H*ll, I even apologized to that person at a time when all I could do was cry for hours every day. Color me an ass.

Max, you can't walk away.

I know what it is like to feel so stuffed up that you can't post. Look at anything I posted over the past year plus! All I was, was anger and pain and hurt- lashing out at every one and every thing. Even you... and felt so justified doing so. So "right". While being [b]so[/b] wrong.

If you need to, take a page from my book. Just stay away for a bit until you are ready to confront these changes. Better yet, become a part of encouraging the good while identifying the bad.

(((hugs))) Max. We need you where you are.

by tigger_two

He rather enjoys shouting and pointing- depending on his mood and/or subject matter.

When you are going through hell, all that matters is the people who are willing to go through it with you. Everyone else can be excused.

I know this to be true. I live in hell.

by ansugisalas

if you call it a flying tackle-grab-takedown it will shield his pride.
You'll both know what it is, though, and that's what matters.

by ansugisalas

That's a Finnish saying, used for that time where a person picks some part of themselves back up, despite of grief and troubles.
Letting oneself grieve is important too, there's a time for each.
Good to see that you've made it back.

I have a hard time imagining that Maxwell will retire his soapbox permanently :)
Everybody needs a break from time to time though, from anything.

by nicknielsen

I don't see you just up and quitting in such a way that it looks like you can't handle the new TR format.

You'll be back.

by cg it

Many of the real old timers on TR will remember that TR used to be where you could get help from other IT Pros on what one is seeing in their daily admin and maintenance of company networks be it Novell, Windows, Unix, Sun, Oracle, blah blah.... when we were migrating from Windows NT, deploying Active Directory, intergrating Novell into Active Directory networks, trying to get databases to work, and how to keep the whole shebang running.

That's not the case anymore.

While there was always the banter among members, the jokes and jabs, when you needed some info on problems you encountered with your company's network be it that Novell box, Sun Box, Microsoft box, you could ask here and someone probably has run across the problem.

Over the last decade, IT functions became specialized. The jack-of-all-trades computer and network guys became almost extinct. The specialists took over taking care of the network. Those specialist, they don't come here. They write their own blogs, have their own web sites.

Heck, just about every question on the TR Q&A today can be easily answered with a quick google of the problem and most often has nothing to do with the day to day operation of a company's computer network, their telecommunications [VoIP ] network, datacenters, and the software that runs on em.

While I don't say adios like Maxwell did, I don't come here very often anymore either...Why? combination of things but mostly because there isn't a whole lot of relevent information here to what I'm doing administering, maintaining, the company's network.

by tigger_two

(((hugs))) CG. I get you.

Something that I see many of us struggling with is the reality that we are still relatively young and yet are either being made redundant or are simply kicked to the curb in an industry that we have literally sacrificed much for. Some gave up marriages and children and huge chunks of life, believing that there would be time later. Then we got laid off, RIFTed, downsized and right-sized. We told ourselves that we were skilled, employable and relevant while dealing with the day to day heartbreak of competing for jobs that weren't exactly plentiful against younger, less skilled, and cheaper candidates. Maybe they [i]couldn't[/i] do what we could. Business didn't care.

What broke my husband's heart wasn't terminal cancer. It was going nose to nose with the reality that he was replaceable and expendable. Maybe the new guy couldn't do what he did or have his breadth of knowledge. Business [b]didn't care[/b]. In that way, the cancer was almost a gift. It gave us a way of saying, "You CAN'T look for work/get a job. You must deal with this cancer thing." He was excused from having to confront, day after day, the reality that he wasn't NEEDED by business any longer. It only cost his life.

I'm going through that now. Day after day of recognizing that I really have nothing to offer today's employer. I'm old, my skill set is tired- regardless of how many classes I take in the newer technologies- and I am irrelevant. I'm a generalist in an industry that really only wants to employ specialists. My most recent work experience only qualifies me to care for the terminally ill... except that I no longer have the license to do so. I come here in the hope that I might still have something to bring to the table, might be able to contribute to the conversation. I won't call it desperation... but it sure feels like it.

I quit coming here for technical assistance long ago. I came here because I made friends here. Because I could have conversations with people about things that mattered to me. Because I felt like I belonged. It was home. You all were family. I was accepted.

The recent changes do, to some extent, take that away. I can't find a list of off topic discussions any more. Since those were the discussions that I truly enjoyed, it no longer feels like the site wants to offer me anything. My approach to that has been to try to facilitate the relaunch to the extent that I can so that I can push to have the parts that I want reinstated. Other people will choose different approaches.

All any of us really want is to feel relevant, needed, valued, appreciated. We got that sense- even when we were fighting bitterly over evolution, JD's divorce, global warming and politics. This was a place where we could connect with like-minded others, debate, discuss, and feel GOOD. Whether it was a discussion about Mickster's earwigs, teasing DMambo about his blush, or chatting about flashlights with NB, we felt like we were a part of something. Family, community- something. Maybe it was just a sense of belonging.

I get Max. I mean that I completely understand where he is coming from. I guess I just feel like I have invested too much and have too few options to walk away.

by cg it

Tigger...I think you got it right... well, least I said my piece even if Maxwell isn't going anywhere....

by av .

Taking a respite from TR. You didn't put your avatar back.

I think my answer to you is that when one door closes, another one opens.

I enjoyed the videos, by the way. I think I'm like the unsuspecting person that wandered into Cheers. I never expected to be here 9 years later.

AV

by tigger_two

I don't know that I perceived an actual departure as much as walking away at least figuratively from something that identified him.

Been there. Oh boy have I! But then, so have we all.

I personally was glad to read your reply to Max. It helped me to connect with some thoughts that have been lurking in the shadows of my mind, just ever so slightly out of reach. I owe you one.

by maxwell edison

Are you really the Tigger that we've come to know, or are you yet another one of the numerous Tigger imposters? There have been quite a few, you know.

And in addition to posting the answer here, would you mind sending it to my email address that the real Tigger would know?

by tigger_two

I just sent an email to your internet email account. That is the address that I have stored in this computer. I had another one but not on this machine.

Something that *might* validate my identity...

Last time you were in my state, you were headed for the Boundary Waters in far northern Minnesota. Had to go right past my house to get there, but time wasn't on our side and we never did manage to meet up for that beer. Last time I was in your state, I was on my way to my mother's funeral and again, time wasn't on our side. That was a couple of years ago.

The numerous impostors are probably partially the reason that I had such a difficult time getting this close to my old user name.

by generalist

You remember the good times and forget the bad. The only constant is change.

I suspected a 'Cheers' reference, though I never watched the show. Call me a cultural illiterate as far as television is concerned. It meets my life style.

by maxwell edison

Between that and the email you sent to [i]Maxwell's[/i] address, I'm convinced. Your recollection on my other email address was pretty darn close - but it's the first initial, not the first name.

Glad you're doing well.

by tigger_two

Just as you are easy to identify by the way you write (to me, anyway), I guess I always thought that I was as well.

It has been a long, strange trip.

It IS good to "see" you again.

by boxfiddler Hot topic

:^0 Always did like 'Frazier'. I'm kinda thinking the piano lid has been slammed...

[i]Excellent episode choice, Max. [/i]

[i]lose the stuff that the quotation marks turned into[/i]

by ansugisalas

I grew up with it...
It was one of the highlights of dreary 80's weeks.
So, now I went to check IMDb for Cheers... and what do I get?
"Terveydeksi"
Apparently that's the finnish title... but terveydeksi means "gesundheit" (it means "may it bring you health" and is said when someone sneezes)... it doesn't mean "cheers", it doesn't mean "to your health", it's nothing to do with bars or patrons or drinking, it's just "gesundheit".
Totally weird translation.
Almost on a par with the translation for Apocalypse Now!... which is "Ilmestyskirja nyt!", which in turn means "Book of revelations now!".
Gah!!

by ansugisalas

folly, exaggerated brashness and thinking one knows it all... my other defining qualities...
I still would have thought I had Pup written in big letters on my forehead
(among other things).

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