“We’re talking about getting these people to recognize reality.”

(classical conservative Andrew Sullivan, referring to neo-conservatives, especially President George Walker Bush and his Cabinet)

“The only way to get him (Bush) to recognize reality is to elevate somebody like Nancy Pelosi to Speaker of the House.”

This interview was broadcast on the program “Now” on public television.

Transcripts are probably available at or near pbs.org, but I mainly want to discuss what we believe the word “conservative” to mean.